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[00:00:04] P.S. and Love Everybody. This is your boy D.P. and welcome to another episode of PUR.spective

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[00:01:11] Like I say every week, do a light church and buy two people to come back with you. Listen,

[00:01:17] this week, I didn't want to talk about this particular topic on the honest because it is

[00:01:27] in many cases very widely spread and I didn't want to add anything to the conversation

[00:01:36] if I be honest. I didn't really talk about it. So I actually had something else to

[00:01:41] set up to talk about for episode five but for some reason it just wouldn't click like every time

[00:01:48] I would sit down to record, but every time I would sit down and I could work out the idea that

[00:01:54] I had it just when it just wouldn't come together. I was just having brain farts. I couldn't stay

[00:01:59] focused. It's going to pay attention but I've had a couple conversations about this particular

[00:02:04] topic that we're going to talk about today with a few people and um kind of weighed, I want to say

[00:02:11] what you'd have here on my heart but it was something that I think just needed a different viewpoint.

[00:02:17] Right? If that is the purpose of our podcast and not just to give an opinion but to help us

[00:02:24] see things from a different perspective, I thought I would lend this particular viewpoint on

[00:02:30] this particular subject and our topic that is culturally kind of making this way around and making

[00:02:38] this rise about these social media streets or YouTube and things with that lecture.

[00:02:44] Um, we started off the year in January with Cat Williams going on club Shachay.

[00:02:54] I'm not going to say club Shachay too many times because they are another podcast who is not

[00:02:58] paying me for any kind of promotional advertisement so we're not going to talk about

[00:03:05] on cushioning too much because on a chain and a pay me but if at any point you want to write me

[00:03:10] a check where I have the ties me you know, I can do my address. But Cat Williams went on

[00:03:17] club Shachay and they said you know he's targeting it out in January and then you know Auntie Mooney

[00:03:24] went on to show afterwards and told her a truth about a very similar system and placed that we

[00:03:31] called Hollywood and you know they said she took over February well I'ma had to give March

[00:03:40] to the gospel community because this is um amazing gospel artist I put it like that

[00:03:49] who went on the breakfast club and his making a roar and making a little noise you know

[00:03:59] he's look gospel streets. Granted again, um tie true with is not only an amazing gospel artist

[00:04:08] but he is a three-time Grammy winner in gospel artists. Let me start there um because when people

[00:04:13] don't like you they try to diminish your accomplishments as if you're just you know nobody

[00:04:18] mind you many of you may not like them or try to discredit him after he made his statement number

[00:04:24] one have never made an album number two never nobody's ever listened to your album number three

[00:04:31] album has never been nominated for a Grammy let alone considered. Did number one I don't know

[00:04:38] number one now because I feel like I'm written but the next you've never won anything so to diminish

[00:04:45] his accomplishments as if he's just somebody you know just an artist now let's put a little respect

[00:04:52] on his capability um he's won three Grammy's been nominated 13 times. What's means at least 13

[00:05:02] times in his career somebody has um made this suggestion that he should be among the elite

[00:05:10] in his category and in his field of work called music let's just start there right because again

[00:05:16] and people don't like what you have to say they're quick to diminish your accomplishments to make

[00:05:20] you look like as if you don't have a voice let's start there that's the beginning of my

[00:05:26] little soapbox dissertation let's start there secondly he goes on the breakfast club and um

[00:05:35] as many Christians or you know follows of Christ those who go on the breakfast club they all

[00:05:43] kind of get acts the same churchy or Christian opinionated questions you know from Bishop T.D.

[00:05:51] Jake's been on there it's in Kerfreclan who's been on there to pastor Mike Todd was been on

[00:05:58] there I think Torrey Robber's might have been on there one time a couple of the gospel artists I

[00:06:05] think Tasha Cobb's might have been on the breakfast club at one time they all get acts these

[00:06:11] um very generalized church and our Christian questions so when someone answers a general

[00:06:22] question they usually give a general answer so first off for many of you who watched and or listen to

[00:06:31] his interview I'll start here he had to give some generalization to his answer of the question

[00:06:40] because he was acts a very open and general question right out of people he should have said

[00:06:47] some he should have said not all but you know cup of love at the end of the day it was a general

[00:06:57] question that deserved a general answer okay needless to say the upboard came not at the

[00:07:09] onset of the whole interview there was a clip that was posted by the staff of the breakfast club

[00:07:19] that pin pointed a particular question that was acts to tie about not even how he felt about the church

[00:07:31] arch this but a time where there was a phenomenon of people called themselves

[00:07:40] being called by God to pastor a start there they didn't really act tie a question about

[00:07:51] the church they asked him about a period in time for people they being a pastor

[00:08:04] a religious and spiritual vocation being pastors which truthfully there was a really big phenomenon

[00:08:19] of people becoming pastors there still is if we're honest because if we're again if we're honest

[00:08:27] Christianity and even sometimes the starting on churches you really don't have to go through any

[00:08:34] kind of you know training or go through any vigorous religious courses so people just wake up

[00:08:41] one morning and be like hey I like people I like to talk about God I'm gonna pastor

[00:08:48] and then they get enough people to follow them but then they start giving themselves other

[00:08:52] names and ranks and titles and you know all that stuff that happened that title was to

[00:09:00] a sister it's a sister and I think some people had an issue with saying that churches have

[00:09:17] systems some people didn't like the fact that he said of the institutionalized church

[00:09:28] because then we offered some people say well you know God created the institution of church

[00:09:38] and he shouldn't say anything about it cool but I'm a firm believer this if we never talk

[00:09:53] about what's wrong with our systems don't never be fixed the problem is in that there is a

[00:10:06] place because if we look at it and if we be honest every institution that's ever been created

[00:10:12] has a system you believe me the bank has something called FDIC that helps to regulate not only

[00:10:21] the banks but the integrity of the banks which means at any time you as a consumer of the bank

[00:10:27] if you feel like you've been done wrong by the bank the institution of the bank there is a system

[00:10:34] in place that will combat the corruption of the system that that you're complaining about

[00:10:41] and now it regulates the system of the bank our jobs you work in corporate America

[00:10:55] there are systems in place you go to work every day there's nothing wrong with the institution

[00:11:00] of work the Bible say if they don't work don't eat so we got to work but there are some things

[00:11:10] that happen at your job because of its system whether it be racism whether it be sexism

[00:11:15] whether it be harassment those are systems that happen at your job and things that happen at your job

[00:11:21] that at any point in time you feel like you've been done wrong or ingestly or at some point

[00:11:27] you feel like someone has taken advantage of who you are there's a bigger system in place called

[00:11:34] the HR Department and if at any time I feel like I've been done wrong because of this

[00:11:43] unsaid or unknown system that may not hold wait to the value in the values of the company now

[00:11:52] work for I can go to something called HR Department and I can make a complaint and I can let my

[00:12:02] higher-ups know what's going on here that this system in place is not benefiting me as a worker

[00:12:09] the only place we can go be done wrong and can't say anything about it sometimes

[00:12:20] is church now granted i'm going to make this disclaimer before we go any further in this podcast

[00:12:28] because i'm pretty sure i just lost about eight listeners off the bed just one statement right there

[00:12:35] i'm someone who sometimes is fortunate enough to go places and talk and speak and do those

[00:12:40] things and sometimes when i go and do these things i'm usually like the youngest person talking

[00:12:44] the youngest person speaking and i always make these really really cool three disc

[00:12:48] claim is about myself okay you ready here's number one all of my life

[00:12:55] over 30 years i've been one thing that's a man you can't take that away from me but there's

[00:13:06] anything i know in life it's a man because i've been a man forever my whole existence

[00:13:16] I was placed in the body of a man second thing i've always been and it has never changed

[00:13:23] is i been black yeah i'm black at the black black black you i'm black African American

[00:13:36] on his panic black i'm i'm him all day, early, third thing i know i know church i say it again

[00:13:52] i know church and more specifically i know the black church yeah i've i've seen a lot i've seen most

[00:14:05] i have the um um advantage of some that because of some of my guess in talents

[00:14:13] i get to float between genres and thought presses and doctrines in church so you know i've

[00:14:22] i grew up um kind of costal but i i i i can i can relate to the apostolic so i've

[00:14:29] i've been in situations where i have to go help the back this or i've been in situations where

[00:14:33] you know um i grew up around method is so i have a plethora of experience not just with one genre

[00:14:41] or a school of thought when it comes to an African American church but several and in a lot of cases

[00:14:53] it's all the same the systems are the same let me say this yes god is the creator of

[00:15:09] the church so this you know can run down all the scriptures i'm pretty sure i know some of them

[00:15:17] it's like some y'all now i'm in jubwe when we talk about them we need to talk about them in context we

[00:15:22] can't just use them and then you know justify them let's please use them in context let's please use

[00:15:29] context but without saying yes god is the one who has created church he even gives a blueprint for

[00:15:38] what he wants the church to be my problem is this you ready put your glasses on

[00:15:50] many of our replicas don't look like the blueprint many of our replicas don't have the same material

[00:16:07] that the original has we don't have the same measurements and because we aren't built like

[00:16:16] the original that god instituted what we use our systems that help us regulate what we do

[00:16:35] and sometimes our replicas have problems and we don't address the problems in the replica

[00:16:46] we begin to diminish the value of the original what you mean because we treat this church that we've

[00:16:53] created this modern church as if we are so perfect and nobody does anything wrong and and we don't

[00:17:00] do certain things that diminished the value we do so much to diminish the value of church

[00:17:09] we've done so much to diminish the value through our systems and our processes and our

[00:17:15] dogmas that we try to pin on people that when someone says hey that's not cool like that

[00:17:24] that shouldn't be like that we're more defensive of what's wrong yeah yeah yeah but we'll

[00:17:33] defend what's wrong because we don't want to correct it and sometimes we don't know how to take

[00:17:41] accountability and say yeah I did wrong and I used the name of god to justify and I was even

[00:17:48] wrong in that okay I just lost two more followers now come back we all come back next week this might

[00:17:55] be this might be so come back next week I might try to say talk about some of the bite

[00:18:06] our replicas don't match the original so when people have a problem with our our replicas

[00:18:12] because they've got an understanding about the original we become defensive of something that was built

[00:18:21] wrong now granny some churches were built on amazing amazing principles and integrity and built

[00:18:30] on amazing perspectives but for some of the ones that weren't you can now see the

[00:18:43] malfunctions in your foundation because the reason why a lot of people don't come to church

[00:18:53] ain't just because they just don't want to come to church some of our systems are little faulty

[00:19:00] they don't work yes God created the original and people say well you know church

[00:19:11] ain't perfect because the people ain't perfect oh I got you I got you but that does mean we get to keep

[00:19:24] doing wrong and using our imperfections as the excuse as to why we can't address what is wrong

[00:19:34] because if everybody in here isn't perfect we need to talk about what's not perfect about us

[00:19:40] so that way we can start walking in perfection it starts striving for perfection yeah yeah

[00:19:51] yeah that I'm using another follower I think but I'm gonna google it though so just come back

[00:19:57] coming and talk about something talk about something like body people had a problem with ties ties

[00:20:07] argument because I said well he profit it from the church

[00:20:11] that one sentence interview did he say he didn't make money

[00:20:15] after church because guess what he did guys for artists so who supposed to consume his music

[00:20:20] Christians Christians there is consumers there is fan base

[00:20:29] and even my fan base can't be wrong because at one point in time as a Christian in his walk

[00:20:39] he was wrong he messed up and at some point he had to have a face to face with the real God

[00:20:51] of the real Bible and not the God that was created through some of our systems do you know that

[00:20:58] sometimes certain institutions don't allow you to serve their real purpose because they created

[00:21:04] on what they wanted to create from it so that way you never get to the real source

[00:21:10] some guy or what I said right because I don't want to take me out of context I said some

[00:21:19] and will never fix was wrong if all we do is praise what we do right

[00:21:29] whatever church ain't like that well how do we fix some of the ones who are

[00:21:33] what systems do we have in place to maintain the integrity told you banks have the FDRC

[00:21:40] your job has the HR department hospitals have boards and have have trusty places that regulate

[00:21:47] the doctors that come in and out to make sure that their their own residences are intact and make

[00:21:52] sure that you know they can maintain the ability to be a doctor who regulates

[00:21:59] the integrity of the church who who teaches proper doctrine to make sure that everything we

[00:22:17] saying you do gets filtered through the Bible and is interpreted correctly because I have a

[00:22:25] mentor that says this if you don't preach it right you can expect people to live it right

[00:22:30] so a lot of times the the the the malfunction in the lifestyle of the people that we see who are

[00:22:36] supposed to be Christians only comes from where they've gotten all the information if they've

[00:22:41] gotten the information wrong buy someone else how do you expect them to live it right

[00:22:54] some of our systems don't work I've heard the argument you know the the church is the

[00:23:01] bride of Christ do we do you do you not remember that the same bride Jesus died for he corrects

[00:23:10] need to on her oh wait time I'm late yes I lost formal listeners you're hurry up

[00:23:16] me and go share this with other people because I think I just lost like all my listeners so I need

[00:23:21] some new listeners so you're gonna find me some new listeners please it's I'll say again make

[00:23:26] this statement put your glasses on Jesus has to correct the same bride he's going to die for

[00:23:40] Jesus the miracle worker becomes the correcter of what he loves so much

[00:23:54] so much so that you know I can't give you no perspective without going to the Bible

[00:24:09] in Matthew 21 think a lot of people may not have a story growing up in church or even some

[00:24:15] people who don't like church might have heard this story because sometimes I've heard it you know get

[00:24:20] certain churches Jesus flips the tables at a temple because of the money changers

[00:24:34] now here's the thing Jesus flips the tables because there was a system put in place

[00:24:42] at this particular temple I don't have a lot of time to get into all the details but the money

[00:24:48] changes were there to help change the currency of the people who came into the temples so that way

[00:24:55] they can buy the sacrificial animals that they needed to make sacrifices in the temple

[00:25:02] that was the system that was the purpose of them even being there the problem wasn't

[00:25:12] that the money changes was there the problem was that instead of the money changers

[00:25:20] holding their integrity within the system that they worked some of the money changes were

[00:25:26] taking the money and pocketed it and pocketed it themselves my tongue was tied up right from

[00:25:34] some of the money changers instead of instead of giving the people who were there to get

[00:25:41] sacrificial animals instead of them giving them their peers and unspotted animals they were

[00:25:46] given them spotty doves or dead doves take into money so now the people who came to the temple

[00:25:57] to give sacrifice to God can't even give God a pure sacrifice because the system that is in place

[00:26:02] has people who don't have integrity and are corrupt and mess up their ability to even give God

[00:26:09] a proper sacrifice all right I don't I don't want to go there I feel like time I'm had to put me

[00:26:17] oh God to system was corrupt in church in church so instead of people being able to give

[00:26:32] God a proper sacrifice because they had to give them a sacrifice but instead of them being

[00:26:37] able to give God a proper sacrifice it says that they pay the courtyard of the temple like a

[00:26:45] market place and Jesus sees this sees this calamity and gets upset and the Bible says I felt a

[00:26:54] little preacher there I'm sorry the Bible says Jesus turns the table over because of that system

[00:27:05] the corruption in it there was no integrity and he doesn't go to the people and say why are you

[00:27:18] buying bad doves he goes to the leaders that allow these particular money changes to work knowing

[00:27:24] that this is what they were doing it says hey what are you doing he doesn't go to the parishioners

[00:27:31] he don't go to the members he goes to the leaders he goes to the priest and says hey what are you

[00:27:36] going you've turned this pure system that my father put in place and you made it a den of thieves

[00:27:55] the sad part is he won't admit in repeat that sometimes these places we call church

[00:28:09] are operating in the integrity of their original intent they're just not they're not some

[00:28:18] art some say again because for y'all said well you got real defensive I heard it I heard it

[00:28:25] than you spirit you got real defensive I say it again some if you church ain't the church doing it

[00:28:31] please listen to me I haven't told you to leave a church I didn't told you not to go to church

[00:28:36] because I believe everybody should have a place where they can gain amazing discipleship

[00:28:44] but some systems some some a couple of them maybe that felt better for some you

[00:28:57] a couple of them because there's a big is out there around the world but some of them

[00:29:05] black integrity this same temple this same occurrence where Jesus Phillips tape was over

[00:29:17] after doing a little bit of research and if reading some things upon it this was the catalyst

[00:29:27] for the accusations that began and it came to Jesus before he got crucified

[00:29:35] so again he must first correct the church that he's dying for before he goes and dies for it

[00:29:48] he died for us yeah I got it because I heard that too how can you say you know he died for the

[00:29:53] church yeah but he corrected the same church in the same week it was like nah this system had

[00:30:04] it worked and so in order for me to bring about a new system for something that's not working

[00:30:10] I have to die at the die at the die at the die that's it and the sad part is that's not

[00:30:18] the first time Jesus like had to go into a church in like you know causal ruckus

[00:30:26] it's not first time it's not first time

[00:30:31] because again let's go to the Bible again there's a story in Luke 13 and 10 right where Jesus is

[00:30:39] teaching in the synagogue and he sees a woman there who's bent over and has found and has stuck

[00:30:49] and she's stuck by a spirit that's been by because they call it a spirit and while he's preaching

[00:30:56] he's a lady he says hey come here first off that's another topic for another day

[00:31:04] telling a lady who bent over who can't move to come here

[00:31:09] heels her after he heals her he looks to the leaders and says how long has she been

[00:31:22] bent over like this and nobody thought to help her right the Bible says that the

[00:31:36] leaders there become indignant they they catch an attitude they they become self righteous

[00:31:46] type time out how are you going to tell us how to heal and you know corner our system

[00:31:56] you ain't supposed to heal on the Sabbath Jesus wait a minute

[00:32:03] because you know we consider we consider healing work so you know you can't you can't work

[00:32:10] on the Sabbath Jesus hey hey man hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey how do you get the church today

[00:32:16] oh I got did that that that that all donkey I got back there oh oh that's how

[00:32:21] got the church today I got I got I got I got I got I got I got I don't want to don't keep

[00:32:24] what do you mean I got the church you ain't see my donkey my donkey in the in the past the parking lot

[00:32:29] yeah it got my name on it past those so and so that's my donkey I got the blame on it and she says you

[00:32:36] know um is it not considered a work what you have to do to your donkey in order to get it

[00:32:44] but you mean didn't you have the unofficial donkey today to go get some water before you came

[00:32:49] the church and y'all considered that work right yeah and today the Sabbath yeah I thought

[00:32:57] y'all couldn't work on the Sabbath huh yeah that's your system you just told me you can't

[00:33:03] do no work on the Sabbath but you worked on the Sabbath so I'm trying not to use a word

[00:33:09] that I want to use because the dead y'all probably gonna cancel me and I don't care but you you

[00:33:14] you read the unloose y'all donkey to unloose a woman who's also in your care you you

[00:33:26] rather you rather unloose what's been official to you so that you can get here while she

[00:33:34] comes here every week and it's still bound that's that's a system that Jesus is it ain't right

[00:33:45] it ain't it ain't it ain't so us to think that God doesn't correct what he loves okay

[00:33:54] trying not to sound too churchy preachy right now we just won't be talking about time but some

[00:34:00] y'all came at him a little indignant I like that word I think I might use them all often

[00:34:07] some y'all came at him root indignant cuz he told a truth that if we don't adjust looking to

[00:34:21] retrospectively and figure out what's wrong there's a poll out there that says

[00:34:30] Christianity or I believe like the church is only one generation away from being extinct

[00:34:37] one one it's only gonna take the church if not careful 10 years before it just becomes

[00:34:46] obsolete the church will never die better dying the minds of some of the people

[00:34:53] eats salvation the concept of church is put it like that the concept of organized religion

[00:35:05] if we don't reassess our systems because again some of them might not be what there's nothing

[00:35:20] wrong with the infrastructure but it's the system I had the privilege I went to the time to work for a

[00:35:36] really big cell phone corporation anybody knows me knows I love technology I'm not

[00:35:46] engineers some bad scientists but I just generally have a cool look for technology I just love it and

[00:35:54] um I had an opportunity to work at a particular for a particular pretty big phone company at one

[00:36:01] time and um one thing that always irritated me about that particular company when I work there is

[00:36:12] they always wanted me to give somebody something new again in the environments of those atmospheres

[00:36:20] it's never too fix somebody's issue it's it's a selling environment which means everything we do

[00:36:27] is geared towards sales you can come in to like pay your phone bill and if I didn't make sure that

[00:36:33] you love it what a brand new phone that day to add to your phone bill I got recommended because they

[00:36:38] like why you did sell them nothing well I can't say you something if you came to pay a bill I

[00:36:43] wouldn't it wonder about the ad look in the my bill I'm trying to pay you but you know

[00:36:47] be the way and sometimes I would have certain older people that made me chuckle when they came in

[00:36:55] because unknowingly the device they had was perfect that didn't have any cracks didn't have any

[00:37:07] the camera wasn't broken the screen wasn't broken no physical damage to the outside of the device

[00:37:14] their biggest problem was that your device may not have been working to its optimal potential

[00:37:20] and or ability the only reason why that would happen is if that particular person didn't keep

[00:37:28] their device up to date anytime you don't keep your device up to date and on a current update

[00:37:35] you run the risk of sometimes not being able to open up a lot of features but here's the amazing

[00:37:43] thing about certain updates right not all updates offer new features some updates their only job

[00:37:51] is to fix bugs so the reason why some devices weren't working isn't because you didn't get a new

[00:37:59] update with new features is that you didn't get the new update that fixed some of the bugs that

[00:38:05] were in the old update and what I'm sometimes saying with our churches is that we we want to give

[00:38:13] people new devices instead of helping them fix the update that they need we don't need a new church

[00:38:21] again there's nothing wrong with the institution of church that God has created and God has

[00:38:26] format it and what he says I'm coming back to get but our systems need an update i thought process

[00:38:37] says need an update not because we're trying to unlock new features but in order to to work

[00:38:45] and be optimal we need our bugs fixed we're missing out on some of our current capabilities

[00:38:58] because we won't fix some of the bugs we won't update the only time you need the

[00:39:07] new device is if the manufacturer stops stop making updates for your current device which means

[00:39:14] EP so if I have an iPhone let's say it's 2024 and I still have an iPhone 12

[00:39:22] at the new iPhone update comes out let's say in November after they unroll all the new features of

[00:39:30] the new iPhone and and all the new devices if I'm still stuck on an iPhone 12 and there's nothing

[00:39:39] wrong with my iPhone 12 it works perfectly but every phone has a capacity of updates it can handle

[00:39:48] and the only time you need a brand new device is if the device you have can't take any more updates

[00:40:00] we don't have to give people a new version of church but we need to update it

[00:40:06] we need to again update our systems because some of our systems aren't working optimally

[00:40:18] our evangelism system is working optimally our discipleship system isn't working

[00:40:27] optimally yeah we we raise enough money we we we we we raise enough money we we've done enough

[00:40:34] offerings we got we got no songs we perfect we've perfected the gestures of it all

[00:40:50] but what in our system is an update get another date you don't have to sell nobody new

[00:40:58] Jesus he's the same being on the way and I wrong with him we just need an update

[00:41:05] Bible the Bible says be transformed updated by the renewing of your mind some of us

[00:41:17] reaches you know take now I'm about to go but here's one thing I love the Bible interview

[00:41:25] because I think some of y'all just watch the sound bite it didn't listen to the whole thing

[00:41:30] and then those are some of you who listen to the whole thing again mind you I said some now

[00:41:35] all for you don't don't get it easy all the media listen some of y'all did some y'all not

[00:41:41] go listen to this openly some people listen to this interview too fine fault you

[00:41:55] because somebody had a problem with the sound bite so you to listen to the whole truth of

[00:42:02] the interview already looking to be indignant that's the word for indignant you don't know

[00:42:13] that means go look it up because I'm not going somebody I got to go back to work here's what I

[00:42:20] loved so much about the parts of the interview you got in watch after the questions about

[00:42:33] is the church whack I didn't even say whack like I was supposed to he said it was whack

[00:42:41] just a lyric says you know what time I want to thank you but she makes it very clear that

[00:42:47] you know she grew up in church you grew up in the pedicolstil church she you know she says

[00:42:53] on your eyes she doesn't go too church is because of her schedule but you know makes sense

[00:42:58] you are you you becoming some of the notoriety so sometimes it is hard to get into church you

[00:43:04] know you want to roll you don't you think right she said but as a kid your music

[00:43:12] is what you know kept me around it kept me in church you kept me around it was what my mom knew

[00:43:17] she could put on and we still get excited about going to church had to say wow some some of us

[00:43:32] can't even congratulate somebody's doing their job good by give it the reason why

[00:43:42] me my siblings were excited about going to church because we can cut on your music and feel

[00:43:46] the energy in your music and this excitement that you felt about God in your music and that's what

[00:43:51] excited us every week to go to church I heard Bishop Kevin Williams I North Carolina he had commentary

[00:44:01] on this particular video and he said one thing we're not gonna do even if we don't agree with this

[00:44:06] brother it's canceled him in thom away some of us may not like his wording we may not like what he said

[00:44:18] how he said it but obviously with the brulette is done it's touch the generation of people

[00:44:25] and still kept them wanting to come to something that is flawed still still still used his gift

[00:44:39] to promote God's institution that is very credible ladies and gentlemen it's very credible

[00:44:56] I can tell you to I should have played a big influence on

[00:45:02] he musically come to church and get that he was a voice of a generation who

[00:45:10] needed that young energy came at the right time we got to go y'all

[00:45:19] hope you had a good day hope you enjoyed this episode I said I'm pretty sure I love

[00:45:25] I'm more than certain 80 hours like yeah I'm not no more I'm not listening to that bullet

[00:45:33] no more at all and it's okay this is as long as you shared it go ahead and share it to me

[00:45:42] for you leave make sure you even if you do it by accident here with two people

[00:45:48] tell him perspective was good today I'm gonna leave y'all at this this is a man by name of Alan

[00:45:54] Hearst he says very often the people who claim to know God the best misrepresented him

[00:46:02] the most you got to go peace and love we're seeing two weeks peace