Ep. 272 Writing Through Adversity with Lakita Stewart

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[00:01:23] And this week's episode I have the pleasure of speaking with Lakita Stewart. Lakita is a God-fearing woman, visionary coach and owner of Through Words Publishing LLC, a groundbreaking self-publishing platform that transforms writers into authors and thoughts into books that inspire and form and impact lives around the world.

[00:01:43] Welcome to the show, Lakita. Thank you! That's a be here. Now thank you so much for coming on to this show. Why don't you tell the audience about yourself? Well, first and foremost I want to say thank you, Natasha, for this invitation.

[00:02:00] To be here today, I don't take it lightly. I appreciate this platform and what you give women that opportunity in your hustle and faith, high-cass. I think it's amazing. But my name is Lakita Stewart Thompson. I am a servant of God and an entrepreneur, author and a publisher.

[00:02:19] I'm also a writing and career coach. Something I'm really passionate about. I support and advocate for mother's daughters when men, young women all over the world who've gone through traumatic experiences, situations. In the process of building a one-stop shop with all women needs, because women are just

[00:02:43] passionate about them. Then I also like to help aspiring authors change lives through their words by sharing their testimonies and anything in their life that is helpful for someone else. I am currently a program analyst with the federal government. I work for Homeland Security.

[00:03:07] I've been serving them for 15 years and last but not least, I'm a mother of a beautiful so one little girl. She's my great-ish gift, accomplishment and just a badge of honor as a mother just forever grateful. So that's me and Natasha. Okay, that's a lot of hats too.

[00:03:28] That's a lot of hats. Not bad. You share some new time management skills with us. Oh, listen, I don't even know where I'm going to come in. Well, one of those hats that you wear is that you are the owner of through words publishing.

[00:03:47] So what inspired you to create through words publishing and describe your ideal client? Well, that's a loaded question. I should get a message. All right, bring it down. I like to share this all day with the bottom line is I just wanted to help women.

[00:04:06] I wanted to give them a platform opportunity to use their pain for purpose and just to give a little context. I had a life altering event myself. I was going through the voice. I lost my job. I just had my baby. I lost my home.

[00:04:21] And it was devastating. And the only thing I could do is just write. Right? And as I began to write about my experience, you know, the Lord just began to download things. And so I asked other women to share their stories, right?

[00:04:38] And I didn't know what I was going to do with these stories. But I was just like, hey, you know, I know that your story can help me and I know my story can help you. Can you share? You know, and I was encouraged.

[00:04:51] You know, by those those stories. And so I said, hey, guys, do you mind if I publish your stories? Right? And then, yeah, I had some of the published stories. Everybody said, yeah, it was over 50 women.

[00:05:09] And we did a book for that generation and we tried with the world. Everybody was we were in sync. And then we did one for the younger girls. And so it was never my intent to get into publishing.

[00:05:24] But that's how through words, probably through words, publishing was birth because you know, once we started sharing other people wanted to share. You know, and so I just learned the process of publishing. And then I had a bad encounter with the publisher that published those books.

[00:05:42] So we weren't able to have access. So I just learned the process and started publishing. And I didn't publish because I wanted to. But my girlfriend started telling everyone that I published. And I was like, I don't do that. I just wanted to do our project.

[00:06:02] And so they were referring me. And I was like, no, no, no, no. But you know, I knew the process. I knew how it worked. And I started publishing books for free to be honest. And my good, good girl friend who introduced me to you.

[00:06:18] Is the one that said, no, sis. We not doing that. No, you need to start your publishing business. That's how through words publishing came into place of shout out to one to the young. And like I said, she's my big sister.

[00:06:34] So she's like, you're going to do this. And so this is how through WordPress publishing came about a file myself, just wanted to work, you know, people and it expanded from women to also helping men and young people share their stories because my daughter has

[00:06:51] her book out as well. So, I was here. Yes, her book out she has a business. So, a little kid or like a great now she's 16, but when she wrote, she was probably around eight or nine years old. She did like a journal. Wow. Okay. So, yeah.

[00:07:14] That's how through word through words came about and then you had a second question, but I, okay, remember. No worries. It was just to describe your ideal client. Okay. So, everyone were to, you know, hey, I love everything that we key to have to say. Yeah.

[00:07:30] I would, we connect like when what is she looking for? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. Absolutely. Anyone who wants to spurt their story. You know, I, I like to work with people who have a testimony that brings hope, healing for someone else.

[00:07:48] And so those are my ideal clients. Fantastic, fantastic. So, you know, becoming an author may be on someone's bucket list, but there's a good chance that, you know, that person may not take the necessary action, right? To cross that desire author list.

[00:08:06] So, my long, does it typically take to write a book and then what is the most challenging part in writing a book? Wow. So, let's just say that it really varies based off of the writer.

[00:08:23] I will say that, you know, those who may want to share their story, it might be a different process from someone who just wants to share information. And so, I would have to say that it varies.

[00:08:38] I've had writers write in complete a book in 30 days, you know, 60 days to 90 days, to 12 months, you know. So, I've had a variety of different authors and published different rates. So, you know, I've helped most of them.

[00:08:58] The most challenging part for most writers would be completing a manuscript, you know, because a lot of people don't know where to start. They don't know how to get their thoughts on papers, some people like I can't write, but they have all of these things in their head.

[00:09:14] And so, the most challenging part is really just writing the manuscript, you know. But I've helped people process those thoughts by offering them accountability coaching and just really sitting with them in that process of writing, breaking down, you know,

[00:09:32] what they want to write about creating the outline and then really getting them to sit down and choose a topic from that outline and just write. And so, we'll go through that process until they're complete with the manuscript,

[00:09:46] but you have to have that manuscript in order to even get to the process of publishing. You know what? That actually just prompted another question. So, regardless of whether you decide to go the traditional route or self publishing,

[00:10:01] do you believe that the exercise of creating a book proposal is necessary? Absolutely not. You know, traditional publishing has always been there, but that's kind of going out to window you find more people, lean in more towards self publishing because, you know,

[00:10:24] you don't have to do all of those those antics, you know, to get your language. Okay, no, no, I just had to ask, I was just curious because again, you know, so much has changed in that landscape, just even from the short period of time,

[00:10:40] like the stuff that I've learned throughout my writing process. I don't know if we're not going to tell you where I was writing the book, so yeah. But I hope this, you know, if you are of a certain, you know,

[00:10:54] stache, you know, like let's just say, a celebrity type of, sure, this highly on business. You know, I would recommend the traditional publishing and doing the proposal because you want to be headed in the right direction to get your book out there, right?

[00:11:14] The panel where, you know, who your audience isn't things like that. And so they may say, you know what we have, I'm familiar with people doing this. You know what I mean? So it's just very, you know, there's some goals and concepts.

[00:11:29] Yeah, not that makes sense, total sense. So again, we've already discussed a little bit of this, right? So so many changes have taken place in the publishing industry. Mm-hmm. What are the pros and cons of both traditional versus self publishing?

[00:11:45] Maybe we can dig into that a little bit more. Ooh, I'll start with traditional just because you know, that's something that, you know, you can do, you now you have the option to, you know, you have the last traditional. So with traditional publishing, there's access to resources.

[00:12:04] So with traditional publishers, you know, typically they have access to professional editors, designers, marketers, you know, people who can polish their book a lot more and promote. So, you know, they have the resources and some of those business have been out for a while.

[00:12:22] So you might, you know, you have access to that. Another thing is with traditional publishing is that they have, you know, more credibility. Then maybe me, you know, the, you know, not a traditional publishing company.

[00:12:37] And so being published by a traditional publishing company, it can lead you to credibility in your work. You know, more people are more prone to buy from, you know, traditional public houses that rather than, you know, a self publisher.

[00:12:52] And they have more accessibility to book stores, you know, which, you know, have higher quality, you know. Another pro could be distribution, you know, they have established networks. And so it makes it easier for your book, your product to reach audience.

[00:13:15] And you can get that in, like I said, books, stores, libraries, you know, just because they already established, right? Another thing for traditional publishing is that they usually offer advanced payment. Okay, the future rural teas and they provide financial support where not so in the self-publishing arena.

[00:13:41] And you can get that support through the writing process, like, you don't have to, you know, that put all this money up front. They provide those at this payments. And then you also have editorial support. So you really want to have the best product out there.

[00:13:57] And so when you have a traditional publishing company, like I said, they have access to the best of the best, right? Now some of the cons that that you lose control. And so typically, you have less control over the publishing process, including, you know,

[00:14:12] like your cover design, your pricing, your marketing strategies. You pretty much have to go with what they had, right? And then there's longer timelines, you know, with publishing, it can take a long time.

[00:14:24] But when you're submitting the transcript, you got to do it for polls. You got to do all these things. It's just a longer timeline. And then the rural, rural teas are not as great, right?

[00:14:35] So you're paying for them to publish your book. And then your royalties may not be the same rates that you might get when you do on a self-publishing. So they have lower royalties. And then they have limits hit, let's say, market access. So yeah. So with traditional publishers,

[00:14:59] they may space selected in the manuscripts that they accept. So that limits your opportunity as an author, right? If you don't fit within their established, John Ries or their market. And then the rights to your issues. And so with authors publishing with traditional,

[00:15:19] you know, you often have to relinquish your rights. Most of the time, you know, once you publish the book, if you want to get copies of your book, if you want to, you have to go through that traditional

[00:15:29] publishing house. Oh wow. Yeah. So it's not, it is, you don't own it. Now in terms of self-publishing, you have 100% control. It allows you to retain full control over your publishing process.

[00:15:43] You can sell your books on your website or whatever platform you want to sell it on because you have complete control. And also in terms of time, you can get that book out faster than you

[00:15:55] will with a traditional publisher because you don't have to go through all of their timelines and all of that. The royalties are higher and it's more flexible. Like, you know, with self-publishing, they have greater flexibility in experimenting with different genres for masks and marketing strategies

[00:16:13] and things like that. So you can be creative, right? And your, in your approaches, right? And then there's the global reach. So now that we have these digital platforms and print on the man and self-publishing, like you have a greater global reach without having to utilize the

[00:16:33] traditional publisher. Now in terms of the cons, the quality control. So without the oversight of the traditional publisher with self-publishing, they may struggle with ensuring that they have the same level of quality, right? As the editing, that's what the design and the production.

[00:16:52] You might have to use a template, you know, for a book cover design, whether rather than having a graphic artist design, you know, something that's quality and then it's limited distribution. So it's harder to get your book into bookstores and libraries, you know, depending on what

[00:17:11] platform you use. And so that's always something to think about. And then marketing strategies, like if you're nobody, you don't know and if you're doing this for the first time, you don't know what platforms to get on and things like that. And then there's a stigma associated

[00:17:25] with self-publishing that despite it's being accepted, some readers in industry professional still view self-publishing as inferior or traditional, you know, rather than traditional ones. Like it's like, oh, this is a known publishing company versus, you know, you're doing

[00:17:43] all the sounds really trust that. And then it's so cost, you know, one of the times with a niche, you know, with self-publishing is the cost, initial cost. So those are cost-effective in the long run. You still have to incur expenses for editing, for cover design and marketing,

[00:18:04] especially if you're new to the game, you know, like you have to pay someone to do the editing, whereas with the traditional, it's all included, but you're going to pay more there than traditional, but they have the professional that can do it. So that kind of,

[00:18:21] no, there's a very thorough response. And I appreciate that. And it just got me thinking why, I guess I know the answer to this, but it's also slightly frustrating. Why would a self-publishing, why would someone who decides to self-publish be viewed as inferior? And some of that,

[00:18:43] I'm just curious, is it based on demographics? Because I do feel like there's not as many like people of color, if you were in the traditional landscapes. So is that like, I do wonder if that plays a role in that or is it because, I mean, definitely,

[00:19:01] they're on the head, you know, because it's like, you know, it's just like, most things, you know what I mean? Yeah, you know, and so it's kind of sticky, you know, because we don't fully know all of that, all of the answers as it pertains to that,

[00:19:20] but that is my factor. Let me just say that. That, okay, you're doing that because you don't have the money, I mean, it can be so many things you have, you know, you don't have the money to pay

[00:19:32] $7,000 to get you a book probably. So, you know, right, I'm going to stick to it. Yeah, I think I felt like I've read a statistic somewhere. I'm always reading, I don't remember

[00:19:42] all the spots where I see this, but I thought I read a statistic somewhere where like Christian publishers of color was like two or three percent for something of the industry. I could be

[00:19:52] dead wrongs, I please don't quote me on that, but I know it was like an absurdly low percentage. Yes. It came to often or so. I just felt like I had to ask that because I was just curious what

[00:20:02] your thoughts were about. It's difficult to work around those proposals too, you know, and I may be because, you know, like I say, just in life in general, you know how your kind of, you know,

[00:20:16] let's just say people of color, you know, or the minorities are kind of pushed out a certain new things. And so it's no different. I'm just, you know, okay, no, okay. All right,

[00:20:29] no, I just want to get your opinion on that because I had been reading it, I'm just like, I wonder if that has to play a role. As advancements continue to be made in AI because I'm

[00:20:41] watching this, my background's in marketing, oh, I'm just like, this is going to get real interesting pretty quick. So as advancements continue to be made in AI or AI, sorry, how can authors protect their

[00:20:56] work? Because it's getting kind of scary out there. You're just seeing stuff all willy, well, number one, you know, when people go through the self publishing process, they fail to get copyright registration because when you publish, you know, that's basically your work, right?

[00:21:21] And so it doesn't necessarily have to be copyright because that is a version of copyright, right? However, you have to go in register, you're copyright because with the copyright, it provides really automatic protection for your original works and for the works of authorship and

[00:21:43] including literary works like, you know, it gives you protection. And so people have to go and get that copyright. You know, go on the the US copyright office website and go and get your copyright

[00:21:58] registration. This stands you as your work, don't miss that step in the process even though self publishing is so easy. Most people don't get that copyright registration. Now, in terms of water marking and digital rights movement, you might see that term use. Others can use the digital water

[00:22:24] watermarking techniques to embed hidden information for the digital files. So that's protecting your digital files. So that's also recommended, right? Because when you utilize DRM technologies, it can restrict access to digital copies. So that means people can't just take your work

[00:22:46] even though you're doing it digitally. They can't just take it and do what they want to do with it. It prevents anybody who's unauthorized to share what you create it, you know? And so I always

[00:22:58] tell people get that watermarking and that DRM, you know, that's another, you know, that's just short for digital rights management. That's another form of action. And then depending on what you're doing, like let's just say, you know, you're in marketing, right? You want to have those licensing

[00:23:17] grievance in place. And when you have a license agreement in place, authors can license their work, you know, whether you're a publisher, distributor, you can license put a license in the agreement in place that specify your work. You know, that can be used, distributed, monetized,

[00:23:36] you know, that helps you maintain control. So people have to get permission when you have that license agreement in place to use your work. So if you say, hey, I don't care if they use my book,

[00:23:48] however, you know, they have to get permission from me. So that, like I said, it helps you maintain control over your intellectual property, you know, while you're allowing authorization for people to use the industry, distribute it. Okay? And then another thing that you know,

[00:24:07] we recommend is that you get that trademark protection. So if you're branding, right, you can protect your brand, you know, while getting the trademark protection, right? And that protection brand, your identity, your titles, you know, your author name, your logos, and you can do

[00:24:26] that by registering with the trademark office. And that's also something that you can find online, you can just type that in. And then another thing I recommend authors to do, especially in it really depends on where you are. You know, if you're beginning author, this might not be

[00:24:43] something so drastic, but legal assistance. You can seek legal advice, you know, from attorneys that specialize in intellectual property law, and they can help you understand your right and even drive, you know, how you can drive enforceable contracts and agreements and just take

[00:25:02] legal action against any infringement of authorize shoes of your work. And so I tell people, you always should have legal. And that's in everything business, you know, because must you become author, you're technically a business owner. You know, and so you should always have some type of

[00:25:25] legal available. And then they have these like monitoring and if or so others can, like actively monitor online platforms, social media, and other channels for unauthorized copies of their work, you know. So that's available to people, you know, if they want it. So there is

[00:25:48] under a something I believe is called, I see the initials DNCA. So I think it's digital, millennium copy-act. You know, if you go and look at that. I think I know it's talking about

[00:26:02] it's, yeah, I think I know, I think that's, I think you're right on that. Yeah, so you can use that, when you can issue that people take down, it's like, you know, take down notices and people

[00:26:14] are utilizing your information. It's like a cease-and-decist. Yeah, it's one of those. Yeah, yeah. And then, you know, lastly, you know, because we can talk about this all day is I'm learning a lot. You just, you know, I'm a copy of your collaboration with like editors, with agents,

[00:26:40] with publishers and other professionals, authorship work, with trusted parties who respect intellectual property rights. And then here's the ethical standards. You know, you want your contracts to be clear. You want your agreements to be clear. It should outline your ownership, your licensing, your

[00:27:01] distribution rights to prevent any misunderstandings. You know, because I've been in some situations. I was like, hold up, hold up. Let's go back to the contract. Let me show you right here. You got to

[00:27:13] read the whole thing, right? And so if there's any disputes in the future, it's just a protection. So you want to collaborate with trusted partners. I know, you got me thinking here too.

[00:27:29] I'm sitting in a thing about the copyright and trademark because those are things that I think a lot of people typically overlook, not out of, you know, trying to be intentionally overlooking it. They just don't

[00:27:41] think they need it at that point in time when they're writing their book. Is that something that you would recommend for folks to get before they release the book or can they still get it afterwards?

[00:27:53] You can, you can get it afterwards. But it, you should get it prior to. So that way when you go in this thing, you don't have to, it's like the alphabet, you're going from Z to A. You want to go from A to Z.

[00:28:06] And that's one of the first things you should do is get your copyright registration. If you're manuscript is written, you already have a title. You know, go ahead and get that registration.

[00:28:15] Trademark is really more for branding. So you can kind of, you don't have to get that initially. Some people, you know, are in business for years before they get trademark. But you want to establish,

[00:28:31] you know, your brand and then get the trademark because if you want to change the colors, if you want to change the logo, you want to make sure, you know, especially for new authors,

[00:28:41] you want to make sure that this is what you want to brand. You know, because it's not cheap. It's their fees associated with not even getting trademark. So you know, a trademark, you got to,

[00:28:53] you know, really be clear on, hey, is this what I really want to do? Is this what I'm branding, right? For my company or, you know, my business. So, you know, some of our recommendations.

[00:29:08] Well, the Vimple. Well, information. Oh my goodness. And I'm just soaking it in. Yeah, I would let you talk all day if you want to. You people like it. But I do like to get people

[00:29:21] information. I do like to make sure that people are good. You know, when they're, they're doing these books, it's not people like these books out here. You be like a hold up, wait a minute.

[00:29:33] You know, you're giving out all your information. You know, when you want to make sure that, you know, you get what you do, you know, you get what you deserve for giving people your information, right? Yeah, exactly. No, I wholeheartedly agree. And in fact, that, you know,

[00:29:50] I may be biased on this. But I've been seeing some folks, oh, you don't even need to like write your own stuff. You could just use AI to write books. And I'm sorry, I can, I can

[00:30:01] thought one of those on my way. They're poorly edited. You know, it's just not as a, it's a, it's repetitive like so. You know, real careful. You know, and to me, I don't want

[00:30:12] no, you know, for me, I don't want a book that's just like, you know, what they're supposed to do. I'm not a person. I want to have a story. Right. I want a personal feel, you know, when I come

[00:30:27] back with someone's book, I want my whole life. Yeah. Exactly exactly. Well, you know, I cannot get over this. We are in May. May. Yeah. That's crazy. You know what? I just, I just, I, I feel like we just

[00:30:46] had a happy new year. Right. But, okay. And I've so, you know, I've set with myself because there's so many book projects. Like, you know, sometimes you got to stop doing other people's projects and get

[00:30:58] you what's done. Oh, you know, I know that feeling all the way. Trust me. Yeah. What's kind of like with me, I have a whole bunch of like podcasts episodes that need to be edited. And I'm like,

[00:31:11] but I had a couple ideas that I wanted to do too. I was a couple solo episodes and I'm like, I haven't been able to do that because I'm so busy editing, but you know, it's the problem that

[00:31:21] have. So yeah. But if you had to choose one word to represent your goals for this year, what would it be and why? Oh, that is so good. Um, wow. I've really thought about I've really thought this out. Um, and I would have to say, growers, you know,

[00:31:50] from me personally, um, growth because we have to grow. That's true. I think we just got to grow. Um, there's so many things that need to be done. Um, but we always have room for growth.

[00:32:14] And so that's my word for this year. You know, you know, fine opportunities to grow, fine opportunities just to be better. Um, and so growth from me, it really encapsulates the idea of just continuous growth, until you will learn and expand my capabilities. Evening,

[00:32:35] just my understanding on things. And so my year this year, I'm intentionally putting myself in places, um, intentionally where I can grow in every area, whether it's intellectually, whether it's

[00:32:52] emotionally, mentally, you know, you know, in therapy now, you know. And so, you know, I just want to grow. Whether it's professionally, whether it's a personally, I hope to involve, evolve, adapt and make,

[00:33:07] you know, just meaningful, you know, meaningful things all right. You know, uh, and so yeah, that's not worth an obstacle. I've heard you keep your word. That's good. That I hold yourself accountable. Hey, and well, you can look back on this video

[00:33:32] and just remind yourself, you have worked to do every day. Yes, yes, yes, well last but not least, what's the best piece of advice that you have for aspiring first time authors? That's good. I'll just say this because, you know, God is my guy and everything. And so,

[00:33:56] I would invite God into your writing process. I would, um, pray. You know, be prayerful. Don't just jump into writing because one thing that people don't realize is, you know, I always associate it with giving birth, right? And so you want to push something out, right?

[00:34:18] And you don't want to do that without instructions, without, you know, guidance and things like that. And so, um, I always invite God into everything that I do. I'm always pray, you know,

[00:34:30] because it will make your writing process a lot easier. You know, when you invite him in the process, it just changes the game because I've done the writing without that. And it's been all over

[00:34:43] the place and, you know, you, you, you let things out prematurely before, you know, like I said, give him birth. You don't want that baby to come too soon, right? And so, um, you need to,

[00:34:56] you know, know what you're doing. You know? And so, just invite God into the process and also write regularly like you don't have to, you know, be working on your book. Just practice. Just getting the habit of writing because every successful author was once an aspiring first-time author,

[00:35:19] right? And so, and what it to keep the passion, you know, of that ideal present, um, and believing yourself creative vision. Right it out. Like, right out what you want to do, whether, you know,

[00:35:31] you have to book right here and not just write that embrace, you know, what it is that you want to write, you know, and get feedback, you know, invite people into your tribe and tell your circle

[00:35:46] and talk it through. And, you know, just have, you know, good intentions like have a plan of action, right? Don't just say, oh, I want to write about trees, you know, you know, you

[00:36:01] are writing to nobody who you write to, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, book up, sorry, you know, I've had some interesting books, like I'm a poet. Okay,

[00:36:13] all words don't rhyme, you know, and then they got to make some kind of sense. So, you know, I just said just invite God in the process, be prayerful, you know, write regularly, write journal, you know, get insight from others, embrace your story, embrace your topics,

[00:36:34] whatever God is utilizing you to do in this world. Yeah, use that, you know, so yeah. I love that. No, I love that so much. Well, Lequita, thank you so much for coming on to

[00:36:49] the show. I thoroughly enjoyed our conversation and learned a ton. I know the audience has as well and the event that they would like to get in touch with you. How can they go about doing so?

[00:37:02] Well, I want social media. I'll keep this through a time saying, uh, and also that's my face Facebook and Instagram, and then through words published in, I have both Facebook and Instagram. So

[00:37:17] you can find me there. If you want to even if you want to check out my website, um, is twpublishent.info, um, if you want to, you know, just sit down and have a consultation or,

[00:37:29] you know, just just talk about what you want to do with your book. Um, you can visit my website and all of my information is there. Fantastic, Lequita. Thank you once again for coming on to the show.

[00:37:42] I really appreciate it. Thank you. Um, I really enjoyed this and, you know, you put a fire on the mic behind today. Yeah, I need to get back to work. Yes, get back to work. If that's a word,

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