Ep. 261 Navigating The Legal World w/ Liku T. Amadi Esq.

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[00:01:17] And this week's episode, I have the pleasure of speaking with Liku T. Amadi Esq. She is an award-winning California License Attorney. Liku works with coaches, consultants and expert service providers to establish a solid legal foundation for businesses with contracts, trademarks, and strategies for legal protection.

[00:01:41] She makes it a point to educate her clients on the what and why behind legal services to empower them to make legally informed business decisions so they can protect their business and make more money.

[00:01:53] Liku is also the creator of precedent, which provides legal resources and contract templates specifically for coaches, consultants and service providers. Liku is a proud mom, wife, and first generation Tanzanian. Welcome to the show, Liku.

[00:02:10] Thank you so much for having me, Latasha. I am so happy to be here. Oh my goodness. Now the pleasure is all mine. So why don't you tell the audience about yourself?

[00:02:21] Yeah. So my name is Liku Amadi Esq. I am a business attorney and founder of Anasala firm. I left corporate after about two years during the pandemic in the middle of my first trimester of pregnancy to start my own law practice because I wanted to build a business that was centered on my quality of life.

[00:02:46] And I want to help other business owners do the same right by helping them understand the legalities and their business and how they could use them to leverage what they're already doing.

[00:02:57] To make it easier to live the lives that they want to live so that is me in Anasala firm has been going on three years now, which I'm super proud of and I am here to educate drop some gems and give some insight so that people don't look at the law.

[00:03:15] As something that is just needs to get done, right? A box that needs to be checked but something they can actually utilize to their advantage to get to where they want to be.

[00:03:28] I love that so much and I could always to you first of all congratulations for the anniversary that is amazing.

[00:03:39] And also all of that taking place during the pandemic, how in the world that you even stay sane. That's a lot for one person to kind of do it one. Especially that point in time.

[00:03:55] There's a lot going on. I think COVID was a time of clarity for a lot of people number one myself included.

[00:04:04] I actually decided to leave corporate before I got pregnant. So it was a decision I had already made just from experience seeing the pressures of being black, a black woman in corporate America having to work two and three times as hard.

[00:04:21] And I was just like this, this type of lifestyle isn't what I want to live. It's not worth it. I don't want to be stressed like this. I don't want my time to be constrained like this and then when you throw in the pandemic where life is short and that message is just beating at you every day.

[00:04:38] Like I made the decision that I can go out on my own and if I fail for whatever reason or if I don't like it, I can always go back to frontline right or I can always I can be a carpenter.

[00:04:49] I can do anything right so a lot of clarity and confirmation came during that time and when I got pregnant instead of being scared about my exit plan. I was even more empowered which made me feel like I was doing the right thing.

[00:05:04] So definitely a crazy time but a lot of clarity and confirmation came from it. I love that so much. Now I'm going to piggyback into that whole leaving the corporate world, but I want to first jump into what motivated you to get into law.

[00:05:20] Yeah, I honestly wish I could remember like that specific moment but ever since I was young I've just been interested in the law particularly how you can take one set of facts and you know,

[00:05:35] I wish them in somebody's favor and that same set of facts can be twisted and three other people's different favors right like I appreciated that I appreciate the delivery from people making arguments in the courtroom like things I used to see on TV.

[00:05:50] And I thought that that was a skill that I could have I was excited about learning about it and when I finally jumped into it.

[00:05:58] I try to few different areas of the law, but overall I just loved being able to wield that type of knowledge and power especially for my community African American community which isn't you know,

[00:06:13] feel it with lawyers from top to bottom so that also meant something of value that I can contribute to my community. So I'm trying to think about this a little a little here, so you mentioned that you left the corporate world.

[00:06:29] How is it, is it different being out on your own than being in the corporate world? Have a feeling I know that. But curious about that. Yeah, I actually fun fact.

[00:06:46] I never wanted to start my own law firm when I was graduating and people would be like, oh you can open your own law firm who's like nope.

[00:06:54] No, I just want to go somewhere where they already have it set up. Put in my hours you know a get paid pay off these school loans and that be it so.

[00:07:05] I honestly like I did not want to start my own law practice because of the operational side of it.

[00:07:11] I wasn't interested in learning how to run a business and what made me take that leap from corporate to being self employed is realizing just with technology and you know online it's it's easy right it's not.

[00:07:26] Let me take that back. It's not easy, but it's it's simpler than make it right like I don't have to have a brick and mortar location which was huge.

[00:07:35] I don't have to have a ton of attorneys working under me. I don't have to have a whole huge size operation from the jump. I could simply start taking work and so one of the huge differences for me was controlling my own time someone who comes from the the billable hour industry right one of those industries where you.

[00:07:55] I have to track your time is very tedious stressful the the time and the pay is something that you focus on sometimes more.

[00:08:05] I have to actually work that you're doing for your client and I realize that happening with the few clients that I was working with at the firm and because I was new.

[00:08:13] I had to count my hours right versus being someone who's 25 years in and they're kind of coasting because they've already proven themselves right so it's very different in that I decided not to do.

[00:08:26] Billable hours I was like let me just set one fee when someone comes to me for some work they can know what it is a front they don't have to worry about you know counting time and I don't have to worry about counting time on my end and we can both focus on what they actually need so that part is the biggest difference for me because I can show up in a much more quality manner where I'm not restricted by you know those industry requirements and guidelines.

[00:08:53] Another difference I would say is the the lack of cushion the lack of cushion that you have is an entrepreneur like when that's your end all be all you know you don't have that steady paycheck you don't have that structure here's the work that you're doing and that can be scary but it can also be motivating right so it can be scary in the sense that like I don't want to do that at all anymore which was my initial position right I didn't want to have that on my hands.

[00:09:22] But also motivating because you realize I can do this and I don't have to do it in the way that I traditionally have seen it right like I can make my own I can make my own hours I can make my own packages I can make my own policies so I can again create my business to be subject to the quality of life that I want.

[00:09:46] versus being employed where it was the other way around right my quality of life was kind of just like leftovers because everything was so demanding and stressful.

[00:09:58] And again on top of that being a black woman in that position it just it's a lot of weight so I would say those are the two main differences.

[00:10:08] I could definitely see that and I just want to piggyback off with something you said you mentioned that there is a little bit more freedom right well actually sounds like lot more freedom but.

[00:10:20] Good for you happy for you I'm not like but I'm trying to figure out here in terms of that freedom what is that look like where were the opportunities that you were able to capitalize on that the rest of your industry kind of let.

[00:10:36] Realize was an opportunity hopefully that makes you yeah yeah I think the the freedom to choose who I want to work with right when you're working for other people it's kind of like.

[00:10:49] This is what we have like when I was an intern for example I interned at a family law office I did a little bit of criminal law did a little bit of transactional right and so.

[00:11:00] I was kind of just doing the work that they already had versus in my own firm like I have the freedom to kind of pick and choose and if I don't want to do that type of work anymore then I just won't pick up those types of clients and so I think that's a lot of freedom in itself.

[00:11:16] Because then if some work is stressing me out or I just simply don't like it like I don't have to do it.

[00:11:24] I think the freedom to build your career in in a more creative way when I first started out I was going to a local co working space here in the Bay Area and I think it was twice a month I would do our long sessions on different just like business topics where I would.

[00:11:45] I would just stand there and I would just teach right and it was a great way to get eyes on me from like a client perspective but more so I learned that it was a great way for me to practice my speaking skills.

[00:11:57] It made me realize that I really love to educate about this stuff and I could educate about it without having to be paid right and so those types of creative outlets.

[00:12:09] I didn't see what really available to me in the corporate realm like I would speak on panels and whatnot but.

[00:12:17] The there were more boundaries if you will right show up to certain networking events talk to these types of people when you're trying to do this type of thing because.

[00:12:26] These are the traditional next steps and so a lot more creativity to build your career and just other legs right so that if I wanted to pivot from practicing law like as a licensed practitioner there's still other related outlets that I can go into without having to you know go be a carpenter.

[00:12:49] I can really leave the law so yeah those are two types of freedom that I think are great fantastic fantastic so. I'm sure you probably are aware of kind of like the different stigmas about lawyers right so.

[00:13:04] Yeah, some of the myths about your industry that you would like to set the record straight. Almost time we have. I don't say it's all love and I'm sure you probably heard it all so that's why I asked that question yeah I think.

[00:13:24] Number one that I'm going to say so number one and add in any particular order by lawyers being expensive.

[00:13:34] I think that's a little bit of a myth because yes lawyers can be pricey but depending on the person right and the value that they place on their business like an expense becomes an investment right so it's not always that.

[00:13:52] You know the the legal stuff is expensive it's more just seeing it sometimes as an investment you're investing into your business.

[00:14:01] You're investing into your livelihood right when you get like a will drafted or trust drafted so you make sure that everything you worked for passes on to your children and grandchildren right so I really would like for people to reframe the law and just legal aspects.

[00:14:20] Excuse me of what they have to do more in that light so I would say that's one thing number two is.

[00:14:27] How lawyers look and I don't know if that's really like a myth but just like the stereotypical you know white older male like that's the lawyer that you want on your team there more trusted they are smarter do the job better et cetera and that's not always the case as someone who has worked with.

[00:14:49] A variety of lawyers right in the law firm life but then also just colleagues and people I've networked with being an entrepreneur right running my own law firm and so.

[00:15:02] I definitely encourage people to seek substance when they're looking for an attorney and not just believe that you know their male their older their wider means that they're going to get a better job done and a better experience overall because.

[00:15:21] I'm going to be honest to be honest society places value on those types of things because of the type of society we are right so that is number two and then I would say number three.

[00:15:33] I just had it at the tip of my tongue number three is that everything is a fight everything is a file like when you call a lawyer it's to settle with dispute or breach of contract or.

[00:15:48] So like what do we see on TV right in any television show what are they doing the has shown that I'm going to see you in court being the gavel they're fighting millions of dollars going to jail murder.

[00:16:00] Like it's it's not always like that like cases get settled even when there is a fight in a lot more of a collaborative fashion then they show on TV right.

[00:16:10] He's always going to go to court on a court as expensive like they're like you want to resolve this amicably.

[00:16:16] Okay, I think there's a way that we can do this right they want to come by on make things easier and so I also want people to understand that because when you are faced with the dispute yourself or.

[00:16:28] This some type of problem even internally in your business it doesn't always mean it has to be like a bad experience or hard experience or something that you have to fight about that is just.

[00:16:40] So we're going to have to be a solution that has to be found by doing some work so I would say those three missed there.

[00:16:48] I love that I love that so much and I'm trying to sit up here because again I'll be honest because I in my profession my background is marketing and with the special emphasis on market research and I've had my fair share of.

[00:17:02] I'm really different differently go folks so I had to let's not even a lie that's why I said hey. You know, set the record straight there for a second. So how do you balance staying true to your values and goals with the demands and pressures of your job?

[00:17:21] I think I really realized how to do that when I left corporate because it was you know the main thing was I want to live a quality life and having to figure out what that means and then building my business around it.

[00:17:38] That's how I just maintain that is always going back to like okay quality of life quality of life and making sure that if I implement a new service, if I change.

[00:17:51] I'm going to be a certain let's say like the my availability right booking appointments or a structure in my business that it is. First, the foundation is the quality of life that I want to live so as a mother who was you know raising.

[00:18:09] I'm really concerned about my understanding and my awareness on this, because myMarkas is a person who. to make a Justin's for that I wanted to be present for my son, right? I didn't want to be

[00:18:20] a workaholic if you will. And so making sure that I was working on certain days and other days was more of like a flex day, right? Or even currently I only take calls during a certain period of time

[00:18:33] on certain days. So always going back to that foundation, that why that I want to live a quality life style and just knowing that grounds me and helps me keep moving forward no matter how hard

[00:18:47] it gets because I always have that to get back to. That's amazing, absolutely amazing. I love the fact that from what I heard it sounds like you keep going back to your why, right? It's your why.

[00:19:01] So for folks that are struggling to figure out what their why is, what would be your advice to them? So my life coach, Mario C. Brown, check him out. He helped me with this exercise and first when I was

[00:19:20] leaving the firm I realized like this ain't it. I don't want to be stressed like I want to be a little more stressed free. I want to have a little more control right? And I did this exercise with my

[00:19:31] life coach and he made me write down four things that I wanted, right? And I wrote down those things you know, be able to take care of my family, be financially free and under each one of those was why,

[00:19:46] right? And then I would write my answer. And then again why? And then I would write my answer. So there was like four wise under each thing and it really just helped me real in like, you know, I just want to live

[00:19:58] my best life. I just want to live my best, relax, quality life with loved ones. And so I think that was a great exercise to kind of pull out what was already inside of me, right? And I also add of course

[00:20:13] on in addition to that. I've had therapy, you know, I've had to unlearn a lot of things about just myself the way that I've grown up, how society has you know played a role in my life and

[00:20:28] my professional trajectory, how I viewed myself, right? A lot of truths had to come out a lot of unlearning and healing had to happen. So I would say that exercise was very instrumental for me.

[00:20:42] And so with people can just, you know, continue to ask themselves and be honest, right? Because for a lot of people they don't, they didn't want to be a lawyer. But that was, you know,

[00:20:53] what was expected of them or that's what they think they had to do in order to be quote unquote successful, right? So I would really say answering those wise honestly and trying to see how far

[00:21:07] you can get to really dig deep. But then also if you haven't started doing just, you know, any type of self work journaling again, therapy, maybe life coaching that it's a great opportunity to kind

[00:21:22] of just find yourself a little bit deeper, which helps reveal that why even more. Okay, okay. I'm just sitting here because if there's so many things, I'm a big journaler, so that really resonated with me. I love to journal, love to journal. So you already answered a

[00:21:45] little bit of this, but you started not so far in for a variety of reasons that we already discussed. But now I want to learn a little bit more about what differentiates you from the competition. What competition? Just kidding. I mean, I'm not just kidding.

[00:21:59] I'm not just kidding. I'm not kidding. No, no, no, no, I picked up on that. I mean, that is one thing right there. Thank you because I was joking with all, it was also very

[00:22:12] serious, right? So not thinking that there is competition. I mean, yeah, there's a market. There's an industry out there, right? But like staying zoned in on my own lane, paying attention to

[00:22:26] my own homework, not looking at someone else's paper, like that's something I've had to learn how to do, right, to build that confidence, to lean in on myself versus what is everyone else doing,

[00:22:40] right? Oh, if I can offer a service like that, then maybe I too will succeed, right? Or if I can, you know, be better than that person. And then your your eye is just like off the prize at that

[00:22:53] point and it chips away at the security you have in yourself to do what you want to do. So I mean, I stay true to myself. I talk about my experience when it comes to marketing who I am.

[00:23:06] I want people to, to not think I'm all I'm going to wear a mask, right? Like I'm not going to sit here in in code switch. Right? I'm not going to sit here and try to do things to accommodate you at

[00:23:23] my own expense. And that's something I've had to grow into. So it very much shows up in my business on LinkedIn. I talk about my son. I talk about my experiences being a mom and building a law firm.

[00:23:35] So when people get on the calls, oh, is that your son in the background? Like yes, he's learning his ABCs. And you know, they love that, right? They're a mom too or they're parent too and that's

[00:23:46] one way that we can connect. So really leaning into myself and realizing that that is my strongest superpower because literally nobody else can do that. Right? It shows in my marketing it shows up

[00:24:00] on my website. It shows up in how I talk to people. It shows up in how I care about my clients. So even if the so-called competition tries to replicate that, it would be from a place that's not truthful

[00:24:14] in genuine because they have their own lane and their own bag to be in. So that is how keep my eyes on my own lane. I love that. I love that. And I can attest to the fact that actually I came across

[00:24:29] your profile on LinkedIn and I was just like, I just started following you because I just loved how authentic you came across. And I'm like, oh my gosh, she's beautiful smart. I'm like, okay,

[00:24:39] follow. Because I like to know that you were sharing as well. So that's one of the reasons why I reached out because I really wanted other folks to learn from you as well. A lot of the advice that

[00:24:52] you offer really resonated with me, which is you are absolutely welcome, which leads to my next question. Why do you feel that many entrepreneurs fail to address the legal aspect of their business?

[00:25:06] Because they're so happy to get into business. They focus on the marketing, the sales, the market research, the, you know, all these other things, but then like the legal aspect is like,

[00:25:18] not existent or where do you get the bottom of the list? Yes, like the little step because I know I want to play with him. So you know, you got to play with him because mom said so, but yeah,

[00:25:31] I honestly think it just comes down to the messages we've received. Like if you think about it from, I just talk about media perspective, right, what do we see about the law? We see like there's

[00:25:42] always a fight, right? There's always like an underdog. There's always an issue. There's always money on the line and in our own lives if we had experience with the law, particularly black people,

[00:25:56] like how has it showed up, right? Police knocking at our door, you know, custody issues, law, enforcement, like jail, like you know, like those are the things that we know about the law. And so

[00:26:10] when it comes to business, right? We only see it as we sometimes see it as available to a certain type of people that is not someone, you know, just building their business from the ground up, right?

[00:26:23] It's someone who's already in business for 10, 20 years has a multi-million dollar company. So they get to have the type of attorney that at that point they'll help you, right? Versus anything

[00:26:36] before that might be trouble, if you will. Right? So I just, I think the messages that we get about legal and business make us feel like, you know, well there's not a problem right now.

[00:26:47] So I don't really need to talk to an attorney unless there is a problem or I'm not making that much money in my business. So I don't have to worry about getting an LLC, right? Or I haven't been

[00:26:58] in business long enough to have an attorney on retainer when in reality, you know, just talk even having conversations with an attorney can really help you and reveal the protection, not only the

[00:27:13] protection that you can have for your business but again just how you can utilize it to propel yourself because if you do for example have your LLC in order, you not only get that protection, but you also

[00:27:26] are in a structured position to apply for grants because they ask about that type of information, right? Same year paperwork and your registration and loans and other programs like that that further help propel your business. So I think that again the message is that we get,

[00:27:45] have just let us to look at the law a certain way, right? That it's not something that we need right now versus if you implement this now then you'll be where you want to be faster.

[00:28:00] I love that. Yeah, now that makes complete sense, complete sense. I can see what I'm getting. I feel like I know the answer to what this question might be but I want to

[00:28:12] during what unique skills do you possess that you attribute to your success? I feel like I already know what it is, but go in. My default answer is just like talking. As you can see I like to talk

[00:28:27] and I've learned, I think to do it well, I'm not even going to say I think I've learned to do it pretty well to the extent that I can speak up for myself which I think helps contribute to my success.

[00:28:43] So not just in business when I'm setting boundaries with clients or talking to potential partners and making sure I get clear information, but also personally, right? When I'm experiencing

[00:28:56] those hardships and I need to be able to speak up for myself, to speak up for my son, to speak up for my husband or my family like all of that contributes to just my confidence,

[00:29:09] my ability to advocate for my clients. So I think that something that I've always done probably came talking off the womb and something I strengthened just through law school, through experience, through teaching and speaking. So I would definitely say talking being a

[00:29:32] gibberish is up there for me. I would say gibberish, I was thinking of my compils because you know what not everyone needs a mic, right? I'm not very close to everyone with a

[00:29:44] mic but you come across as very confident in the information that you have to share. I feel like we resonate with a lot of people because you just come across as very authentic. So,

[00:29:55] the confidence so what you said? I mean I guess we're gonna have some of that too, but I was like confidence people. I would I would connect it to because you know I'm not afraid

[00:30:07] to speak up, right? And I'm not afraid to also just speak about what I want or to speak about what I think is the truth or something's gonna get me canceled. But you know this is my opinion

[00:30:19] then I'm gonna share it so I definitely do think that connects to confidence but also like you said you know not everybody needs a mic and I very much believe that too. So thank you for seeing

[00:30:30] that in me. I'm really definitely definitely that's what I wanted you on the show because I want to more people to know more about you too. So yes, thank you. You were my tall park to share my

[00:30:42] platform. Yes. So if you had to choose one word to represent your goals for this year what would it be in why? He's easy and the reason I choose no I love this you know fun fact. I've been doing

[00:31:04] the show for almost seven years and I'm gonna get to have a guest repeat the word. I haven't had a guest repeat a word yet and he's definitely wouldn't I would know it. It's not amazing

[00:31:22] long just waiting for someone I wouldn't call Malah canceling my little street guy going to you know. But tell me about that. That's an interesting one. Yeah absolutely I don't know if I share this with you yet Latasha but I'm pregnant I'm very pregnant. Yes.

[00:31:47] Yeah and so and so have I right for good reason. So that's a huge part of it. Going on eight months at this point she's kicking right now as I'm talking to you and so that is part

[00:32:00] I'm also gonna make you a part of this interview. I appreciate you of course of course she's a busy body too you know just like her mama so that's a huge part I know I was going to go into this year

[00:32:15] and Q I get birth and April so Q1 specifically being just a quarter of ease for me a year of ease just you know having a new child means it's going to change me as a person right as my own woman

[00:32:31] as a mother, how a show up as a wife and just all the other roles how a show up as a business owner that I have to play and so I just I want to incorporate as much ease as possible and for my business

[00:32:44] that means just continuing to do what's already working and doing it consistently making sure that I'm showing up in a restful manner making sure that I get my rest both mentally and physically

[00:32:59] even after I have my child right is exercising ease to transition back into running my business because now not only be a monpreneur but a monpreneur of two right and I have an infinite home again

[00:33:14] which happened to me the first time when I was building my business so this year is all about ease for me and I've actually found that when I do take intentional rest when I do take a step back

[00:33:29] I make a lot of money. I just like you know I make more money because I'm not forcing it I don't feel like I have to show up I'm taking care of myself now it's talking to one of my clients

[00:33:42] today that when you serve yourself you can serve you can show up and serve other people so much better and that's exactly what's happening for me right now even as I'm winding down the business to prepare for maternity leave which is going to begin in March

[00:33:59] that ease is just you know reflecting well on my business not just from a financial standpoint but just a clarity standpoint that I don't I don't have to work hard all the time

[00:34:12] in order to see the fruits of my labor I can trust the work that I've already put in and I can stand in who I am and you know not be afraid to take a break knowing that it's good for me so

[00:34:26] my word is ease and I encourage anybody else listen pick it up use it like every year or two I love that working what I heard from you was working smarter not harder

[00:34:41] yes that's that that's the main thing that I heard from you and don't pour from an empty cup because you know I mean like so many people I like working themselves to death but

[00:34:52] it's in vain and anywhere I won't even get into that but that's why I'm actually called hustle and faith because I'm one of those people you know you can keep working but it's

[00:35:00] all going to be in vain if you don't include God so that's why I came as I came up with so yes I agree yeah you're present yeah now I love that I love that and last but not least

[00:35:13] what's your best piece of advice for aspiring entrepreneurs and aspiring lawyers? who for both just do it just do it do it scared do it fearful just like Nike you know go ahead

[00:35:29] embrace that Nike get the sweat suit the hat the shoes just just do it because we only have one life to live right and it should be live the way that we want to live it so do it

[00:35:41] figure it out if it works figure out if it works for you if it's something that you truly enjoy doing if not shift griabold entrepreneurship and legal careers just just do it take those steps

[00:35:55] to figure it out because the more we take action the easier it is to get to how we want to live and so that will be my advice is just embody Nike and do it take those actions no matter how you feel let me

[00:36:12] add that no matter how you feel about it if you think somebody's looking at you you think you're going to be embarrassed like we all have to start from somewhere I look back at my lives on

[00:36:24] Instagram from when I first started and the way I showed up a few years ago versus how I show up on lives now totally different and it's a little cringe to watch however there's also a lot of

[00:36:38] satisfaction like wow I grew into myself like look at who I am now so please just do it you will thank yourself in the long run I cannot agree with you more and honestly that's why I keep a lot of

[00:36:54] my episodes I started this back in 2018 and when I listen to the audio I'm like oh so that's the bad luck what were the thoughts on that one but you know what the best piece of advice I got to

[00:37:10] was a guest I can't remember which guest told me this but if it's perfect you waited too long I know that's right and I was like oh it hit me when they said that because I can't

[00:37:26] I can't remember who it was but it hit me because I was just like that is so true instead of being embarrassed I need to really embrace the fact that I just got out there you know and with did it

[00:37:40] just did it just like Nike had my little hat on and everything yes exactly just did my thing but you know you grow and I have to admit you too thank you wow oh that's some free education right

[00:37:55] there yeah and that's the like we were talking about confidence earlier like that's where you get it from it's not for it's not from waiting until everything is perfect it's from showing up

[00:38:09] in perfect messy just putting yourself out there and believing that it's going to work out if it's not already working out so yeah that's where the that's where the meat of it is right it's in the journey

[00:38:23] not the destination so yes I love that so much well Liko it has been an absolute pleasure having you on the show I just want to thank you so much for coming on to the show and if folks want

[00:38:34] to get in touch with you how can they go about doing so yes definitely connect with me on LinkedIn that is my main social media platform I'm probably like one of three Liko's on LinkedIn

[00:38:47] so seriously Koutie a mighty you will find me you can also subscribe at the precedents.co that is my resource business so adjacent to my law firm where you can secure contract template and

[00:39:04] strategically your resources to do what I've been talking about right build your business in a manner where you can leave where you can live your quality of life first because that's what I want

[00:39:15] for all business owners you can also find me at anassolaw firm.com and see my services there if you like to work with me directly and if you just want to have a conversation send me a DM if you're

[00:39:29] thinking about entrepreneurship if you're thinking about going to law school and having a legal career I'm always open to talking to people and giving them some advice or taste of what I've been through

[00:39:41] so please just do it like Nike to reach out to me and I will help you as best as I can. Liko once again thank you so much for coming on to the show I really appreciate it. Of course thank you for having me.

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