Join host Celena Lena from the Man Up Club and guest Moe Azad as they delve into an inspiring conversation on the Man Up Club Presents Podcast. Learn about the goals of the Man Up Club, a nonprofit organization dedicated to nurturing young Black men through life skills, social skills, academic discipline, and civic responsibility. Mo Azad, a 28-year-old entrepreneur, shares his journey from challenging beginnings to becoming a successful business owner in car detailing, video production, fitness, and music. Discover insights on motivation, overcoming obstacles, the importance of mentorship, and what it takes to be a self-starter in running a business. This episode is packed with valuable advice for aspiring entrepreneurs and those looking to support the success of young Black men.
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[00:00:30] Welcome to the Man Up Club Presents Podcast. I am your host, Selena Lina, a.k.a. Sis from Sis and Lil Bro. But I am actually the Youth and Program Director of the Man Up Club. The Man Up Club is a nonprofit organization for young Black men between the ages of 13 and 24. We're located in the Twin Cities, Minnesota, and we serve young men in different areas. Our core areas is life skills. We teach social skills, academic discipline, and civic responsibility.
[00:01:05] The goals of the Man Up Club is to keep them out of the prison pipeline, to keep them graduating from college, to push them towards trade school, or a college after school as well.
[00:01:17] So we're just all about success, cultivating the individual, mentoring them. And if that's something that you want to support, you guys go ahead and go to www.themanupclub.org.
[00:01:29] Let's get into the topic of tonight's, I said tonight. Well, it is tonight, yeah. Tonight's episode. This gentleman that I have on the show today, he's been here before.
[00:01:39] And he talked about, I think we talked about respect before, but tonight he's going to talk about business and entrepreneurship.
[00:01:46] His name is Mo Azad. He's 28 years old. Give it up for him over the online audience. Okay, Mo, say what's up.
[00:01:54] What's up, y'all? So we're talking about entrepreneurship. We're really just going to pick your brain on how you became this boss of your own.
[00:02:06] You feel me? Because you got your own business. You're 28 years old. You're only in your 20s. You're not even 30 yet.
[00:02:13] So that's commendable. I just want to give some claps for that.
[00:02:17] Pat yourself on the back.
[00:02:18] That's right. So tell the people what you do.
[00:02:21] So I'm a mobile car detailer. Best in Minnesota. I'm a video production. I do video production and editing. I do fitness, health and fitness.
[00:02:32] So when you say you do fitness, you're a coach?
[00:02:35] Yeah, coach, trainer, meal prep, you know, all that good stuff that comes with that. Motivational speaker, you know, just getting people in there and just, you know, because sometimes it ain't always about like going to the gym.
[00:02:46] Sometimes people just need like good motivation to get up and get to it. And, you know, everybody got to start somewhere.
[00:02:52] Well, right. I mean, I would imagine to run your own business, you have to stay motivated for sure.
[00:02:57] Like that's key is mindset. So, you know, you're you're doing a lot of different things. Is there a main focus?
[00:03:03] No, not really. I'm always kind of just looking for new opportunities.
[00:03:08] Is there one business that kind of outshines the rest right now in your life?
[00:03:13] Yeah, I'd say my detail one. My detail on my music, though. So my music is kind of I'm still getting there, but for sure my detail one.
[00:03:20] That's that's when I'm getting money off of for sure.
[00:03:22] OK, and what's your business called? Shout it out.
[00:03:25] Golden Touch Mobile Detailing.
[00:03:26] OK, Golden Touch Mobile Detailing, y'all. Make sure that y'all search that up.
[00:03:31] If you in Minnesota, get your car cleaned. OK, come on now.
[00:03:35] How long have you had that?
[00:03:37] I think I started that about two. I want to say two, three years ago for sure.
[00:03:43] Finally, LLC did about two, three years ago. I started it probably like four years ago, I want to say.
[00:03:50] And for those who don't know what an LLC is, you want to give a quick.
[00:03:55] That's a limited liability corporation.
[00:03:58] Mm hmm. So, guys, that is a type of business structure in the U.S. that combines the limited liability protection of a corporation with the tax benefits and flexibility of a partnership.
[00:04:09] So basically, it means that the owners are not personally are not personally not personally liable for the company's debts or liabilities.
[00:04:17] Mm hmm. It's a popular structure because it provides protection for personal assets while allowing profits to be taxed on the members personal tax returns.
[00:04:26] Y'all got to do your research. You feel me?
[00:04:28] It's so important to have the knowledge and strengthen your human capital in order to run your own business.
[00:04:36] But let's back up, you know, let's let's just back up to you as an individual, Mo, you know, because you're here now and you're doing so many wonderful things.
[00:04:45] But obviously, you grew up like a lot of people have.
[00:04:49] For sure. You know what I'm saying? You're very relatable.
[00:04:52] So let's just dive into the backstory of your life.
[00:04:55] How did you grow up? Can you pinpoint?
[00:04:58] Yes. I grew up with my granny and my little brother.
[00:05:03] And yeah, we just, you know, we're the only ones that was the only ones I had in my household and just grew up in like alternative schools and all of that.
[00:05:16] Getting in trouble, all of that good stuff.
[00:05:21] Yeah. Working jobs that I didn't like.
[00:05:24] You said it was just your granny and your brother?
[00:05:26] Yeah.
[00:05:26] And you?
[00:05:27] Yeah.
[00:05:27] For how many years?
[00:05:29] For about 16. Really, my whole life I lived with them.
[00:05:32] Okay. What happened? What's the deal with your parents?
[00:05:35] So they kind of, my mom didn't, she didn't really have custody at the time when I was born.
[00:05:44] So she couldn't take care of me.
[00:05:46] And then my granny stepped in.
[00:05:48] And then my pops, he didn't know about me for a couple years.
[00:05:52] By the time he found out he had me, I was already with my granny.
[00:05:55] So he tried to, you know, get me back.
[00:05:58] My grandma was like, nah.
[00:05:59] Ah.
[00:06:00] So he was pissed.
[00:06:02] Wow.
[00:06:02] Yeah.
[00:06:03] But it all worked out.
[00:06:04] I love my granny and I wouldn't be who I am today if it weren't for my grandma and being my little brother.
[00:06:11] Respect to that.
[00:06:12] How old is he?
[00:06:13] He'd be 26 right now, along with Khalil.
[00:06:17] Yeah.
[00:06:18] Yeah.
[00:06:19] Yeah.
[00:06:19] What's just really quick.
[00:06:22] Yeah.
[00:06:22] Talk about your brother.
[00:06:23] So my little brother, his name is Khalil Azad.
[00:06:26] He passed away on July 3rd, 2022.
[00:06:30] The police killed him.
[00:06:32] But.
[00:06:33] Yeah.
[00:06:34] I'm sorry to hear that, Mo.
[00:06:35] It's all good.
[00:06:36] Does part of your drive come from your brother?
[00:06:39] Oh, yeah.
[00:06:40] Most definitely ever since that.
[00:06:41] That changed me.
[00:06:42] So, like, I've just been going up.
[00:06:45] Like, I just, I have really a whole different person.
[00:06:48] Oh, really?
[00:06:49] Yeah.
[00:06:50] Like, from his passing?
[00:06:51] Yeah.
[00:06:52] Okay.
[00:06:52] Yeah.
[00:06:53] Kind of just, you know, just head first.
[00:06:56] Like, oh, yeah.
[00:06:57] What age were you when he got murdered?
[00:07:00] Um, so I would, I'm 28, 26.
[00:07:03] He would have been 24.
[00:07:05] Wow.
[00:07:06] Yeah.
[00:07:06] That's really crazy.
[00:07:08] I'm sorry to hear that.
[00:07:09] Um.
[00:07:09] That's not good.
[00:07:10] So, you know, I would, I would think to say that based off your answer that he's kind
[00:07:16] of like the main motivation for you, right?
[00:07:19] For sure.
[00:07:19] Definitely is.
[00:07:20] Um, what were the other things that birthed this entrepreneurial spirit in you to go get
[00:07:26] it and be a boss and just be about your business?
[00:07:29] Where did that even come from?
[00:07:30] Just like me, just getting tired of working jobs and just like really just being tired of
[00:07:35] being broke and doing the same thing and just being like, man, everybody having it they
[00:07:39] way or the people that I'm seeing, I'm like, how they having all this money?
[00:07:43] And, you know, some people do it illegally, but I'm trying to figure out like, how can I
[00:07:47] get this money legally and really just have my way and, and become wealthy and just successful
[00:07:54] and just do the things that I need to do and just get ahead in life.
[00:07:57] And then I started reading, I started just watching people, I started surrounding myself
[00:08:02] around people that, you know, just got more going for they self.
[00:08:06] I started, um, adding people on Instagram that, you know, people that are more like, um,
[00:08:12] if fluent, but like in the right ways, you know, so whoever that might be.
[00:08:18] Um, I started just like reading books.
[00:08:22] I started just like taking my life more seriously, really just, yeah.
[00:08:27] Yeah.
[00:08:28] Just meditating and doing that stuff on your own.
[00:08:31] I really respect that.
[00:08:32] Hats off to that.
[00:08:33] Going through all the trials and tribulations.
[00:08:35] Right.
[00:08:36] Yeah.
[00:08:36] You mentioned that, you know, you part of the reason why you started doing what you're
[00:08:40] doing is because you wanted to get out of the typical thing that people do, like the
[00:08:45] nine to five.
[00:08:46] For sure.
[00:08:47] Um, what were the nine to five jobs that you were working?
[00:08:50] Man, I had a million of them.
[00:08:52] I had McDonald's, Taco Bell, Chipotle, um, warehouse jobs.
[00:08:57] I worked at what, um, then what else?
[00:09:01] Uh, so a lot of fast food.
[00:09:04] Yeah.
[00:09:04] Fast food, uh, Dollar Tree, um, wow.
[00:09:09] Retail, uh, you name it.
[00:09:11] I've worked all of them.
[00:09:12] So what was the thought process while you were working those jobs?
[00:09:17] I was like, man, this ain't it.
[00:09:20] I got to get up out of here.
[00:09:21] Someone was just eating at me.
[00:09:23] Like, nah, this ain't it.
[00:09:26] This ain't it.
[00:09:27] You know, I'll be there for a little bit, like it, whatnot.
[00:09:29] And then wake up one day and be like, yeah.
[00:09:35] I'll wake up and I'll be like, should I go to work today?
[00:09:38] You should just always go with your first thought.
[00:09:40] So I'm like, man, I don't know.
[00:09:42] I get up, get ready for work, all of that.
[00:09:44] I'm at the job the whole time.
[00:09:46] Like, man, how do I get up out of here?
[00:09:49] Yeah.
[00:09:50] And I've, I've gone through the same thing because the reasons as to why a lot of people
[00:09:56] feel that way towards those type of jobs.
[00:09:58] And first of all, I just want to say a, um, kind of like a disclaimer here.
[00:10:02] Like this is not to knock anybody who's working those jobs right now.
[00:10:05] And you know what I'm saying?
[00:10:06] They're like, I know a family that's very well off.
[00:10:10] He's a father, husband.
[00:10:11] Um, he's a neighbor of mine and you know, he likes the stability of that, you know,
[00:10:18] and he makes good money.
[00:10:19] So, you know, going, going to work and spending his day there, coming home, being able to provide
[00:10:23] for his family.
[00:10:24] Like that's that he, he's at peace with that.
[00:10:26] And he likes the idea of, um, or the fact of being able to retire in 30 years and get those
[00:10:33] benefits.
[00:10:34] So for everybody that wants to do that, you know, there's, there's no knocking that.
[00:10:38] Um, but what I can relate to you on is I've worked those jobs as well.
[00:10:43] And part of the reason why I didn't like being where I was is because the work was not anything
[00:10:50] that I was passionate about.
[00:10:51] Sure.
[00:10:52] You know, when I was working at Aldo, you know, I'm selling shoes, asking people what
[00:10:56] size they want.
[00:10:57] It's like, there's too much in me though.
[00:11:00] Like, I don't want to spend my time, you know, just not creating music or not encouraging
[00:11:08] somebody in a way that touches their life.
[00:11:11] You know, like it's not, and it's not my shoe company, you know, I'm working for somebody
[00:11:16] else.
[00:11:16] Yeah.
[00:11:17] Someone else.
[00:11:17] And they're living the dream.
[00:11:19] Right.
[00:11:19] Exactly.
[00:11:20] So, um, what was, what was your, like your most miserable job?
[00:11:25] Man, I would say them fast food jobs.
[00:11:28] I worked at Pizza Hut.
[00:11:30] I think the fact, I worked at Papa Murphy's.
[00:11:33] I think the fast food ones.
[00:11:35] Cause, um, yeah, they want you to, every job wants you to be on time, but soon as you
[00:11:40] get in, they want you to go straight to work.
[00:11:42] You just, man, seven in the morning, you just go, go, go.
[00:11:46] Mop them floors.
[00:11:47] Mop them, you know, can't take no breaks.
[00:11:49] You get caught on your phone or I used to sneak in the bathroom just to sit on my phone and
[00:11:54] all that for 20, 30 minutes.
[00:11:56] Like, oh yeah, man.
[00:11:57] Oh my gosh.
[00:11:58] I gotta take a break or I'm just like, man.
[00:12:02] Yeah.
[00:12:03] It's, it's, um, it's, it's a pretty crazy thing.
[00:12:07] Like, and, and let me just go ahead and dive deeper into this though.
[00:12:10] So there's like this, this perception of black people and work ethic.
[00:12:19] And, you know, I like people be joking about it, but like, they'll say like, yeah, the black
[00:12:25] people is always going to be the one to do what you just said, which was they going, they
[00:12:28] going to be the one to go on a break, take, take their 15 minute break and stretch it
[00:12:33] out to 20 or 25.
[00:12:34] That was definitely, you know what I'm saying?
[00:12:37] Um, do you think, so are you, are you saying that there's truth to that?
[00:12:41] Yeah.
[00:12:41] But I feel like that comes from, like you said, um, not passionate about the work you're doing
[00:12:46] because if you love what you do, then you're going, it's not even like a job.
[00:12:50] So you're going to, you know, you're going, you're going to just already love what you're
[00:12:55] doing, already want to spend time doing what you're doing.
[00:12:58] But if you don't like the job and you already got to be there just to make ends meet or
[00:13:01] get, get some little money or you spend eight hours out of your day and you like, man, your
[00:13:06] mind is already made up.
[00:13:08] Like, I don't want to be here.
[00:13:09] Right.
[00:13:10] You know?
[00:13:10] So.
[00:13:12] Okay.
[00:13:12] Here's, here's a question though.
[00:13:13] Is that an excuse to, to underperform?
[00:13:16] Because you got like, they're not saying that about white people or Asians.
[00:13:21] They're not saying, Oh, you like you.
[00:13:23] Like, okay, Moe, do you like, be honest.
[00:13:25] Do you think that, you know, white person working a job or Asian guy working a job is
[00:13:31] more likely to, you know, like sit on the toilet or for a long extended period amount
[00:13:37] of time?
[00:13:38] No, but I feel like they'll, they might do other things that you might not catch on to.
[00:13:43] So, you know, whether that's stealing on the company's time, whether that's, you know,
[00:13:50] cause everybody, you know, not everybody's perfect, but some people in these jobs do,
[00:13:53] do their little dirt and, you know, you might be working hard, but they might be, I've seen
[00:13:59] people, you know, cut people's checks down or whatever, or, you know, you know how that
[00:14:03] go.
[00:14:04] And this is not to put anybody in a box.
[00:14:06] This is just, this is just thoughts, um, that are typical, you know, when it comes to
[00:14:10] work ethic and race and things like that.
[00:14:11] So, um, we're going to go ahead and give a pause on this.
[00:14:14] So tune in to the next segment.
[00:14:15] This is the Man Up Club Presents.
[00:14:17] I'm talking to Mo about the thoughts of how he came from being this regular kid, teenager,
[00:14:24] young man, and now having his own business, but also being a black man and the things that
[00:14:28] you think work in a nine to five.
[00:14:30] So we're just really getting into a lot of different thoughts right now.
[00:14:33] Okay.
[00:14:33] Let's continue the conversation.
[00:14:34] So like I said before, there's this, uh, perception when it comes to, you know, work ethic and,
[00:14:40] um, how you've conducted yourself at nine to fives.
[00:14:45] Um, obviously when it comes to working, your character as a worker is important.
[00:14:54] Sure.
[00:14:55] You know what I'm saying?
[00:14:55] Like there's a certain way that you're expected to act as an employee.
[00:14:59] You know, there's, there's nine to five jobs that, that hire you and tell you what the
[00:15:03] expectations are for you.
[00:15:05] Like, Hey, I want you to be a timely person.
[00:15:07] Are you, um, are you, uh, what is it called?
[00:15:11] Um, where you're emotionally, emotional, emotionally intelligent.
[00:15:16] What is it?
[00:15:17] Yeah.
[00:15:18] Like, you know, can, right.
[00:15:20] IQ, EQ.
[00:15:21] Like the, what my point is the jobs are asking people of the qualities that they desire to
[00:15:27] work those jobs.
[00:15:28] But a lot of the times you work these jobs and you say, you say all these things at the
[00:15:31] beginning, but by the time you come to work these jobs, obviously you're not doing what
[00:15:34] you say what you're going to do.
[00:15:35] So when you were working these jobs, like describe your conduct, like, you know, was
[00:15:40] you, was you the worker that came in late sometimes or like, you know what I'm saying?
[00:15:44] Like you overextended your breaks.
[00:15:46] What was it like?
[00:15:46] Definitely.
[00:15:46] I did all of that.
[00:15:47] I worked hard, came in late, you know, took extra breaks and, you know, worked as hard
[00:15:53] as I could.
[00:15:53] I did all of that, you know?
[00:15:55] So.
[00:15:56] And then there's different types of employees too.
[00:15:58] There's people, there's the people that, um, they come in and then they're
[00:16:04] they do what they're supposed to do.
[00:16:05] And once their responsibilities are done, they're chilling.
[00:16:09] You know, they're not going to do nothing extra, but then there's others that they, they,
[00:16:13] they go above and beyond, but they're getting, but they're both getting paid the same that
[00:16:17] hourly hourly wage.
[00:16:19] For sure.
[00:16:19] Where, where do you stand with that?
[00:16:21] Like, um, um, I've been both, I've been on both sides of the spectrum.
[00:16:26] So, um, I feel like that came from me liking one of the jobs.
[00:16:31] Um, yeah.
[00:16:32] So my detailing job, I worked in Mercedes.
[00:16:35] I kind of, I liked that job.
[00:16:36] I kind of, I actually liked that job.
[00:16:38] So, cause I was doing what I like to do already.
[00:16:41] So I was just like, oh yeah, this is, I'm loving this.
[00:16:44] I'm getting to wash all the cool cars, do all of this.
[00:16:47] But, um, we had happened to get a new boss.
[00:16:51] He was on our, our case.
[00:16:53] New dude.
[00:16:54] He ended up getting fired three months in, but every time he seen me, I'll be sitting
[00:17:00] down or whatever.
[00:17:01] I'll take out the trash.
[00:17:02] I'll do everything I could.
[00:17:04] Every time he see me, I got to act like I'm still working, doing something.
[00:17:07] Cause he's going to come over every five minutes.
[00:17:09] He's coming out of the, his main office just to walk around the floor, just to see who's
[00:17:14] like really just kind of picking on me.
[00:17:16] Cause everybody else was older.
[00:17:17] It's a union job.
[00:17:18] So everybody's 40 plus.
[00:17:21] So they're already working, but he's coming back, turning overs, trying to see if I'm working
[00:17:28] and whatnot and always get on my case.
[00:17:30] Like, oh, Moses do this, do that, do this, do this.
[00:17:36] Dude, what more do you want from me?
[00:17:38] I've done everything.
[00:17:41] So you, why did you, uh, why did you overperform?
[00:17:45] What, what was the, what was the motivation?
[00:17:46] Like, did you, was it a promotion type thing?
[00:17:48] Did you want to show him you were a hard worker?
[00:17:49] No, that was just really for me.
[00:17:51] Okay.
[00:17:51] That was just for me.
[00:17:52] Yeah.
[00:17:52] Yeah.
[00:17:52] That was all for me.
[00:17:53] Just cause it's, I have my own detail business.
[00:17:55] And at the time I'm like, well, this is all just, if nobody, if I wasn't getting paid for
[00:18:01] this, I'd still be doing that.
[00:18:03] Cause at the end of the day, this is what I want to do.
[00:18:05] So it's like, this is all, this is all just practice.
[00:18:08] It's like practicing when you get on the mic or whatever you do, practice makes perfect.
[00:18:12] So the more cars I do, the more I just keep working on it.
[00:18:16] The more I keep working on things that I don't like to do, I'm just getting better at it.
[00:18:21] So yeah, that's, that's super dope.
[00:18:23] What I admire about you is that you said you would be what, uh, cleaning the cars.
[00:18:28] Yeah.
[00:18:28] Right.
[00:18:29] See, what I admire about you is that you were doing that with a sense of urgency, um, and
[00:18:35] importance, even though the actual job wasn't quote unquote of significance, like you were
[00:18:42] just cleaning the cars.
[00:18:42] But see, it was because of the passion that you have for cars and the fact that you have
[00:18:47] your own business with vehicles.
[00:18:49] Now you're dealing, detailing business that you just love every part of the industry.
[00:18:54] You know what I'm saying?
[00:18:55] Like I can relate to that because it's like, and, and anyone who has a passion about an industry
[00:19:00] or a certain, um, inclination to one thing is going to relate to that because it's like,
[00:19:05] okay, let's just say, you know, you want to be an artist, a legitimate professional artist.
[00:19:12] Not everything that you do as an artist is going to be glitz and glamor.
[00:19:15] And it's going to be, you know, you in the spotlight, like, oh, I'm loving my job.
[00:19:19] I get to record every single day.
[00:19:20] No, some days you got to sit down at the computer for 10 hours and learn pro tools and watch
[00:19:27] videos after video.
[00:19:28] And that's boring.
[00:19:29] But it's like, when you, when you see the bigger picture of what you want to do with your life
[00:19:36] and where you're trying to go, it's like, you know what?
[00:19:38] Let me learn.
[00:19:39] Let me, let me clean these cars with precision and real care because I want to be the type of
[00:19:44] boss that knows every crack and crevice of the business.
[00:19:48] So it sounds like that's the type of businessman that you are.
[00:19:51] Like you want to, you're not somebody that, um, operates at the top and you're just, you're
[00:19:57] only focused on the high level things because to run your own business, you got to pretty
[00:20:00] much run it from the bottom up.
[00:20:02] You got to do it all.
[00:20:04] Yeah.
[00:20:05] So as a young black male, how did, what was, what was the possibility of you seeing yourself
[00:20:17] run your own business?
[00:20:18] Was that very likely?
[00:20:19] Was that rare for you to think about?
[00:20:22] No.
[00:20:23] Cause I always used to manifest it.
[00:20:25] I always used to picture myself like, man, I'm going to have my own little business and
[00:20:30] my own little thing going on.
[00:20:31] Like I just, it just was like, what am I do?
[00:20:34] You know, like what am I, what am I, what am I going to do?
[00:20:37] What do I like to do?
[00:20:39] One day I bought a bands.
[00:20:40] That's how I started my detail business.
[00:20:42] I bought a bands, all black bands.
[00:20:46] I was cleaning it one day.
[00:20:47] I, I cleaned the rims.
[00:20:49] I got some stuff from AutoZone.
[00:20:51] I cleaned the rims.
[00:20:52] Car was shining.
[00:20:53] Every day I used to wake up, clean my car.
[00:20:56] Every day?
[00:20:57] Every day.
[00:20:58] I used to go outside, wake up, clean my car.
[00:21:01] Every day.
[00:21:01] I started, I started with a little products that my homie one day texted me like, Mo, why
[00:21:05] don't you start your own car wash business?
[00:21:07] Bing.
[00:21:08] That same night I'm on my phone, on the iPhone, on the little pad, on the notes.
[00:21:14] Everything I do to my car, wax, tire shine, vacuum, all of the little stuff.
[00:21:23] And that's how it started.
[00:21:24] Literally started from flyers and a piece of off the notes on the phone to having business
[00:21:31] cards and having a website and LLC in it and taking it to.
[00:21:37] Wait, so, so someone just put this idea or this seed in you and then it just, it just,
[00:21:42] it, it exploded within you.
[00:21:45] Boom.
[00:21:45] Like it was just like a light bulb that went off?
[00:21:47] Same day.
[00:21:47] Same day you said it.
[00:21:49] I was on my phone.
[00:21:49] I sent them to the, the itinerary the next day.
[00:21:53] I come get your car detailed.
[00:21:55] Come get your car washed.
[00:21:57] You see y'all the power of having people speak into your life and pay it.
[00:22:02] The power of somebody who can be so observant to look at what you're doing and then be like,
[00:22:09] you know, you good at this.
[00:22:11] You should do this.
[00:22:13] Listen to those people.
[00:22:15] Listen to those people because you never know what could come about that.
[00:22:19] For sure.
[00:22:19] And honestly, people are, are a reflection of yourself.
[00:22:24] People hold up a mirror.
[00:22:26] You know what I'm saying?
[00:22:27] Like for me, people will tell me, um, Selena, you should, you should do more public speaking.
[00:22:36] You know?
[00:22:37] And it's like, uh, but when you listen to what people are saying, you have to, you should
[00:22:42] explore that because you just never know.
[00:22:45] Sometimes you, you're your worst critic, you know?
[00:22:47] No, but, but let's back up Moe.
[00:22:49] Cause you said that you was cleaning the bins every day.
[00:22:56] Every day.
[00:22:57] I still clean all my cars every day.
[00:22:58] Every time I get a chance to, I just.
[00:23:00] And you never came across the thought of, I want, I should do a car detailing business?
[00:23:04] No.
[00:23:05] Okay.
[00:23:05] So what was the reason?
[00:23:07] Why were you doing that?
[00:23:09] Just to keep my car clean.
[00:23:10] Cause I liked how it looked.
[00:23:11] Really?
[00:23:11] I had a bins.
[00:23:12] I was like, Ooh, first little bins I had.
[00:23:14] I'm like, Oh yeah.
[00:23:16] Shining.
[00:23:16] I'm hitting the block.
[00:23:17] I'm like, I'm.
[00:23:18] There was some pride in that.
[00:23:19] Ooh.
[00:23:20] What?
[00:23:20] Yeah.
[00:23:21] Loved it.
[00:23:22] So I just, and then I, yeah.
[00:23:24] Mm.
[00:23:24] Yeah.
[00:23:25] That's crazy.
[00:23:26] That, that's beautiful.
[00:23:27] Actually.
[00:23:27] Just how that one, just how that one saying and encouragement, it just literally was the
[00:23:33] seed that sprouted into this beautiful garden today, you know?
[00:23:37] So let's get into more of like what you touched on earlier, which was, um, actually starting
[00:23:45] the business.
[00:23:46] No.
[00:23:47] Um, you had flyers made.
[00:23:50] Were you doing this stuff?
[00:23:51] Solo dolo.
[00:23:52] Everything.
[00:23:53] I'm still doing a solo dolo.
[00:23:55] You, have you ever gone after a team?
[00:23:57] Kind of, but I just got to get to the point where I got all my ducks in order so I could
[00:24:02] start hiring people and all of that and just getting more, just solidified with it a little
[00:24:07] bit more.
[00:24:07] You know, it's hard when you're doing it yourself.
[00:24:09] So you just got to keep going.
[00:24:10] That's all it is.
[00:24:11] You just got to keep going and keep climbing up the mountain.
[00:24:13] Eventually I'm going to get there.
[00:24:14] I done got this far.
[00:24:16] So I know I'm going to get there.
[00:24:17] I just got to, I'm trying to get a shop, a detail van, all of that good stuff.
[00:24:22] Get employees, you know, just, it's just sometimes too, it's hard finding people who
[00:24:26] really want to work.
[00:24:27] You know, I got to find people who like to do what I do.
[00:24:29] Right.
[00:24:30] You know, so anybody could clean a car and I could get random people in there and whatnot.
[00:24:34] But just like at the job, at my Mercedes job, I feel like, and they said it themselves,
[00:24:40] Moe, you're the best car washer and detailer we've ever had in here.
[00:24:44] Cause I just loved my job.
[00:24:45] They didn't know I had my own business.
[00:24:47] So therefore me, I just love my job.
[00:24:49] I'm not just coming in here washing cars just to wash cars.
[00:24:52] Cause no, like I really love this.
[00:24:54] Manifested all that.
[00:24:55] So, wow.
[00:24:58] That, that drive is insane to me.
[00:25:00] Cause it's just like, see you, you never know what people are really up to.
[00:25:05] You know what I'm saying?
[00:25:06] You never know why people work as hard as they do, you know?
[00:25:09] Cause you could be doing it.
[00:25:10] Like you said, you was in that, you was working at that shop.
[00:25:13] Yup.
[00:25:13] All these people, they doing the same thing, but you're the one that's putting in a little
[00:25:16] bit more elbow grease.
[00:25:18] Yup.
[00:25:18] And I'm actually the only, I was the only detailer in the whole shop.
[00:25:21] Okay.
[00:25:21] Yup.
[00:25:22] I had my own little section, my own little bay.
[00:25:24] It was just me.
[00:25:25] And yeah, every time I used to do the car, they was, the boss was like, oh my goodness.
[00:25:29] Like I just kept knocking them out.
[00:25:31] What age were you when you, when you first started your business?
[00:25:36] Um.
[00:25:36] What, what you said two years ago.
[00:25:38] So what, 20?
[00:25:38] I would say, no, when I first started it, when I first, first started it, like cleaning
[00:25:43] my car and all that, right after I made the flyers, I would say 22?
[00:25:48] No, 20, no.
[00:25:49] 28.
[00:25:50] So 23, 24.
[00:25:53] I'm going to say 24.
[00:25:54] Okay.
[00:25:55] Yeah.
[00:25:55] I've had it for like four years now.
[00:25:57] So 24.
[00:25:57] Yup.
[00:25:58] 24.
[00:25:59] Yeah.
[00:25:59] And see, since, cause it's just, it's still new.
[00:26:02] Yup.
[00:26:03] You know?
[00:26:03] So you're still in that building process.
[00:26:06] I hear where you're at.
[00:26:07] You're, you're at a place where you want to build it up to where, like you said, all
[00:26:11] your ducks are in a row.
[00:26:12] And then, you know, once you gain, um, I would imagine more financial resources, you know,
[00:26:18] more of a system, then you can plug the people into that system.
[00:26:24] Yup.
[00:26:24] You know, um, are, with your business, are you at a place where you've already set the
[00:26:30] standard with, you know, the quality of what you're doing?
[00:26:34] Um, or is it something that you're, you're still developing?
[00:26:39] Hmm.
[00:26:41] I'd say both.
[00:26:42] As far as like your routine, how you run the business.
[00:26:44] Okay.
[00:26:45] So for my routine, I, I'm glad that I got it.
[00:26:48] Cause at first I was just doing it like kind of amateur.
[00:26:50] So just cleaning my car as I go and do doing what I was seeing.
[00:26:54] I never had a detailed job.
[00:26:55] So I actually got a couple of detailed jobs at a couple of shops and learned how they do
[00:27:02] it, like how their system is, like how I should go about tackling the car and how to
[00:27:08] properly do everything.
[00:27:09] So me doing that, I learned even more and I'm like, okay, okay, okay.
[00:27:13] I I'm doing good on my own, but now I got a little bit more hands on.
[00:27:17] So I'm like, okay, cool, cool, cool.
[00:27:20] Um, and yeah, I got to this last one.
[00:27:23] I had this last little detail job.
[00:27:25] I had dude was telling me, yeah, Mo, you're, you're it.
[00:27:27] You got it.
[00:27:28] Like you got it.
[00:27:29] You're eight, nine.
[00:27:31] You're there.
[00:27:32] Like you just got to keep doing it.
[00:27:33] You are, you are a self-starter period.
[00:27:37] Yup.
[00:27:37] You, you are a self-starter.
[00:27:39] Yup.
[00:27:39] And you know, guys, I think that's what it takes to be successful.
[00:27:43] I'll put it.
[00:27:44] No, no, no.
[00:27:44] I'll be more specific.
[00:27:46] You have to be a self-starter to run your own business.
[00:27:49] For sure.
[00:27:50] Come on now.
[00:27:51] I mean, that's just, that's just, that's just common sense.
[00:27:54] You going to run your own business.
[00:27:55] You have to be a self-starter.
[00:27:57] No, because nobody's going to want it more than you.
[00:28:00] This is the man up club presents on Holy Culture radio.
[00:28:02] We're talking to Mo about his business and really just picking his brain.
[00:28:07] I'm loving the story of how he's come up and now he's doing what he's doing now with
[00:28:12] his car detailing business.
[00:28:13] It's just so dope.
[00:28:14] So let's, let's return back into it.
[00:28:17] So you have mentioned you've attempted to put a team together before.
[00:28:22] Have you kind of scouted out some people?
[00:28:23] But what you found was you can't just get anybody to clean a car.
[00:28:28] Cause yeah, you're right.
[00:28:29] It's easy for you to just clean a car.
[00:28:31] You know, you can do that.
[00:28:32] But.
[00:28:33] To detail a car.
[00:28:34] That's the difference.
[00:28:35] Right.
[00:28:36] Getting every little crack and crevice, like getting the entire car.
[00:28:40] Even, even when the car is already clean and you like, it's already clean.
[00:28:45] It doesn't matter.
[00:28:46] I have to do the same thing to the car, even if it wasn't clean.
[00:28:49] Got to do the same routine.
[00:28:51] So even though it's clean, my routine doesn't change.
[00:28:54] I still have to tackle it.
[00:28:56] Like he was, it was dirty.
[00:28:58] Right.
[00:28:58] Because, because you want to be the best and you want to be excellent at what you do.
[00:29:02] And you also said, you want to find people who are just as passionate as you are.
[00:29:09] Most definitely.
[00:29:09] That is so key.
[00:29:10] Y'all.
[00:29:10] That's so key.
[00:29:12] When you have a big vision, something that's bigger than yourself, because your business,
[00:29:16] that's, you can turn, that's generational wealth.
[00:29:19] For sure.
[00:29:19] And that's what I'm going for.
[00:29:20] Right.
[00:29:21] And it's a business is something that can outlive a person.
[00:29:24] And to create a successful business, you have to build a business culture and a business
[00:29:30] expectation.
[00:29:30] It's like, okay, when they come to, and name your business again, the name of it.
[00:29:34] Golden Touch Mobile Detailing.
[00:29:35] When you come to Golden Touch Mobile Detailing, it's like, this is what I expect from them.
[00:29:40] This is the quality of service that I expect from them.
[00:29:42] You know, so basically it's like, Mo, you got to duplicate yourself.
[00:29:47] So yeah, what has been the challenges?
[00:29:49] What have been the challenges that you face with trying to find people?
[00:29:52] What have you ran into before that you was just like, oh no, like this is not it.
[00:29:56] Just like, you know, I'll have friends and family help me out, you know, because everybody
[00:30:01] needs help.
[00:30:02] So I'll have them help me out here and there just to get the time rolling or whatever
[00:30:06] it is.
[00:30:06] But like, they're not going to have the eye I have.
[00:30:12] Some people ain't going to see everything.
[00:30:14] They'll be like, oh, it's already clean.
[00:30:15] No, it's not clean.
[00:30:16] Like you missed a spot and now you touching stuff.
[00:30:19] And now you got to just know that one of my bosses told me, you know, methodically, you
[00:30:25] got to methodically get in and out and maneuver around the car without dirtying back up the
[00:30:30] spots that you already clean.
[00:30:32] And just, you know, because you don't want to backtrack.
[00:30:34] You want to get it in timely manner.
[00:30:36] You should detail like a car should only take about three hours at the most.
[00:30:43] Filthy from start to finish.
[00:30:45] Wash everything to buff, wax, all of that.
[00:30:48] It should only take about three hours.
[00:30:50] Oh, wow.
[00:30:51] That seems quick to me because, you know, I just got to.
[00:30:55] Shout out to the Man Up Club.
[00:30:56] Just got a new van.
[00:30:57] Okay.
[00:30:58] Let me just say that.
[00:30:59] The Man Up Club just got a new van.
[00:31:00] Now that's a little different though.
[00:31:03] Because I had got a, right.
[00:31:04] I had got a, you know, a quote for that.
[00:31:06] You know, they was like, oh yeah, that's going to take, you know, six hours.
[00:31:08] Because it's a bigger, yeah, it's a bigger vehicle.
[00:31:11] It's just a bigger vehicle and whatnot.
[00:31:13] So the van might be easy because it's not so much like, I've done vans.
[00:31:18] I've done everything.
[00:31:19] So it just depends like how dirty the van is, like how you're going to have to tie.
[00:31:25] It's the same thing.
[00:31:26] But like this is what I learned too, just being at different detail shops.
[00:31:31] Everybody doesn't do the same routine as how the next person does it.
[00:31:36] So what I learned is most of them are similar.
[00:31:40] They'll start with the wash bay first.
[00:31:42] Always wash the car first before you start detailing it.
[00:31:45] So then everything can dry and whatnot.
[00:31:48] And then at the end.
[00:31:48] Inside and out.
[00:31:50] Inside or outside.
[00:31:52] Outside.
[00:31:52] Outside.
[00:31:52] Always do the outside first.
[00:31:54] Then you tackle the inside because everything on the outside could dry.
[00:31:57] And then at the very end, you finalize everything.
[00:32:00] That's when you're going to buff and wax and all of that.
[00:32:02] You want the car to be dry, you know, and stuff like that.
[00:32:05] So yeah, everybody's routine is different.
[00:32:09] And so you had to develop your own routine or you took pieces from where you worked?
[00:32:14] Yup, yup.
[00:32:15] So I just remember what my first boss said.
[00:32:17] And I just remember how I was doing it with them.
[00:32:19] Just wash the car first and then tackle the inside.
[00:32:23] Sometimes I'll do the outside first.
[00:32:25] It just depends on how I'm feeling.
[00:32:26] Sometimes I'll do the inside first and then do the outside.
[00:32:28] It just depends.
[00:32:29] But like you just got to, as long as you know the routine on how you're supposed to do the car,
[00:32:34] then you can kind of like wiggle room and whatnot and do your own thing.
[00:32:39] But yeah, you just got to know first like, okay, what are we looking at?
[00:32:43] Right, right.
[00:32:44] You know, what is it?
[00:32:45] What is like your van?
[00:32:47] What are we looking at?
[00:32:48] The inside?
[00:32:49] Okay, boom.
[00:32:49] We can do the outside.
[00:32:50] Let's do the outside.
[00:32:51] Spray that down.
[00:32:51] Do all of that.
[00:32:53] Pull it in.
[00:32:54] Let's knock out the inside.
[00:32:55] You know, that's going to take a while.
[00:32:57] And then at the end, let's buff it, wax it, you know, tire shine, all that good stuff.
[00:33:01] And then.
[00:33:01] Put the spray stuff.
[00:33:03] Smilling, smilling stuff.
[00:33:04] All of that.
[00:33:04] Yup.
[00:33:05] And then.
[00:33:05] Sorry, what was it fun to say?
[00:33:06] No, you're good.
[00:33:07] And then usually they just, sometimes dealership cars, they'll wait.
[00:33:15] They might not go back right away.
[00:33:17] Because also too, like, when you're detailing in a shop, there's only so much light.
[00:33:26] When you pull it out into the sun, that's when you can really see what you missed and
[00:33:31] stuff like that.
[00:33:31] Because the light from inside only lets you see so much.
[00:33:34] And then when you pull it outside, you're like, oh, I missed a little spot.
[00:33:37] And you're going back and you're, you know, you got to just.
[00:33:40] So that's all stuff I learned too.
[00:33:42] That's dope.
[00:33:43] And see, you're talking about efficiency.
[00:33:46] Yup.
[00:33:46] You know, you got to be efficient.
[00:33:49] Yup.
[00:33:49] You got to be efficient.
[00:33:50] Yup.
[00:33:51] And I'm learning from what you're saying.
[00:33:56] You have to know what the foundation of the job is that you're doing, what you're
[00:34:02] trying to get done.
[00:34:03] And then once you get down the foundation and you've come up with a system that works
[00:34:08] to where you're producing something on a regular basis, then you can play around with
[00:34:12] the routine.
[00:34:13] Yup.
[00:34:13] You're teaching me something.
[00:34:14] Yup.
[00:34:15] You're teaching me something.
[00:34:16] Because even though, okay, you're an artist too.
[00:34:20] Yup.
[00:34:20] But, but, and see, this is another conversation for that too that can relate.
[00:34:23] But being an artist, it's like, okay, obviously the goal, the product is to put out the music.
[00:34:30] Yup.
[00:34:30] Put out the content.
[00:34:31] Yup.
[00:34:32] You know what I'm saying?
[00:34:32] Like, yes, be creative and take your time with records, you know?
[00:34:36] But when you're on the grind and when you're, you know, time is precious.
[00:34:43] Get it out there.
[00:34:44] You gotta just, yeah.
[00:34:44] And you're on competition.
[00:34:46] So you can't sit there and be like, oh, I gotta sit on this album for a little bit and
[00:34:49] let the creativity flow.
[00:34:51] It's like, no.
[00:34:51] No.
[00:34:52] You also have to be efficient.
[00:34:53] You have to move with efficiency.
[00:34:55] So it's like, you know, find your rhythm.
[00:34:57] You know what I'm saying?
[00:34:58] Maybe you discipline yourself when you're first starting out.
[00:35:01] Maybe you discipline yourself to be like, okay, you know what?
[00:35:04] Um, I'm going to, I'm going to produce a song.
[00:35:08] Like one song.
[00:35:10] I'm on max two hours to create this one song from just an idea to on the mic.
[00:35:15] Two hours.
[00:35:15] Let's just stay there.
[00:35:16] You start there, you know, the next time that you make a song is in an hour.
[00:35:20] The next time you make a song is in three hours.
[00:35:23] Find the average, but then keep cutting that down to where you can be efficient.
[00:35:27] For sure.
[00:35:27] You know?
[00:35:28] So I really like that.
[00:35:30] Like, I just really like, um, the mindset that you have about it.
[00:35:34] I like the passion.
[00:35:36] Um, you're, you're, you're just, you know, you're creating a culture for yourself in,
[00:35:42] in what you're doing, you know?
[00:35:45] So what, where are you at now with, with the business?
[00:35:48] Like, what are your, what are your goals?
[00:35:50] Um, just, uh, to get a shop, get a detail van, um, hire customers.
[00:35:55] I mean, clients and whatnot or employees.
[00:35:58] Yeah.
[00:35:59] I got you.
[00:35:59] And then, uh, just keep building it to a multimillion dollar business one day.
[00:36:03] So just, um, franchises, hopefully.
[00:36:07] Okay.
[00:36:07] And if not that, just like, just keep working on mine to where one day I don't have to be
[00:36:14] detailing anymore.
[00:36:16] Right.
[00:36:16] You know, I'm always love it, but like, I don't want to keep, I don't want to get up
[00:36:19] and clean cars all day.
[00:36:21] You don't get 60 years old one day.
[00:36:23] I get tired of that already when I'm doing it.
[00:36:24] So I'll just be like, man, you know?
[00:36:26] So, and you were artists doing everything, you do fitness training and do all of that
[00:36:32] in one day.
[00:36:33] So making music, going to the gym before all of that, going to the gym before everything,
[00:36:38] then started my day with a detail.
[00:36:40] So I just already went hard in the gym for an hour and a half.
[00:36:44] Now I'm going to do a car for three, four hours.
[00:36:46] That's like working out already.
[00:36:48] Cause you got to get in there, bend down, all of that back be heard.
[00:36:51] And you'd be like, man, it's hot sun all day.
[00:36:54] Cause I don't got a shop.
[00:36:55] So I'm going through the motions.
[00:36:57] Okay.
[00:36:57] But it ain't hot sun now.
[00:36:58] It's, it's, it's winter time.
[00:37:00] No, for sure.
[00:37:01] So right now I ain't doing no details just cause it's winter time.
[00:37:03] But if I, that's why I got to get a shop.
[00:37:05] Cause if I had to shop, I wouldn't stop.
[00:37:07] It wouldn't be seasonal.
[00:37:08] Yup.
[00:37:08] Nope.
[00:37:09] I wouldn't stop.
[00:37:10] Okay.
[00:37:10] So when are your, uh, you know, seasons of operation then?
[00:37:13] So anytime, as soon as the snow stops in, I can do a detail right now.
[00:37:18] Okay.
[00:37:18] If it was in the garage.
[00:37:19] Okay.
[00:37:19] If it's heated and whatnot.
[00:37:22] It just depends on the weather.
[00:37:22] Yeah.
[00:37:22] It just depends on the weather.
[00:37:24] If it's not too crazy out and whatnot, I can come in and still do it and whatnot.
[00:37:28] But yeah.
[00:37:29] Mo, how do you keep going, man?
[00:37:32] Like, um, like car detailing is a physical job.
[00:37:39] And then like, you know, you go to the gym.
[00:37:41] That's great.
[00:37:41] You keep up with your physique.
[00:37:43] Um, but you're also artists, you know, that's, you know, if you on stage, you perform and that's
[00:37:47] physical too.
[00:37:48] But then like, you have to have energy for everything.
[00:37:50] And then people be like, if you put your time to a lot of different things, you can get so
[00:37:55] stretched out that you don't, you can, you don't deliver on one thing.
[00:37:58] So how do you do all this?
[00:38:01] I just made it my life.
[00:38:02] Like I kind of just worked it into my schedule.
[00:38:05] I just made it my life.
[00:38:05] Like, okay.
[00:38:07] Um, you can't, you got 24 hours in a day, right?
[00:38:10] So I can work on my music for an hour.
[00:38:13] Okay.
[00:38:14] I can write a song for an hour.
[00:38:15] I can, um, post detail stuff.
[00:38:18] I can watch all videos for an hour.
[00:38:20] I can go to the gym for an hour.
[00:38:21] That's just three hours right there.
[00:38:23] Now I still got 23, 22, you know, 21 hours in a day to figure it out.
[00:38:28] And just like, okay.
[00:38:29] Um, a lot of it is, you know, like I said, health and fitness, you got to eat right.
[00:38:35] You eat the right foods.
[00:38:36] You're going to have more energy.
[00:38:38] Right.
[00:38:38] You know, stuff like that.
[00:38:39] So it's just like, you know, um, and just really just being motivated and just like,
[00:38:46] really just knowing that you're going to go somewhere and you want to go somewhere in life.
[00:38:50] You got to work for it.
[00:38:52] At the end of the day, you got to work for everything that you want.
[00:38:55] It's not going to be handed to you.
[00:38:57] It's going to look like, and then when you get on, it's going to look like it was overnight success.
[00:39:01] But in reality, everybody doesn't know that I've been working this whole time.
[00:39:06] Been going hard.
[00:39:07] I've been just, you know, little by little, just one step in front of the other.
[00:39:11] Just keep climbing up the mountain.
[00:39:13] Like, okay.
[00:39:14] So eventually I'm at the top.
[00:39:15] You know, like how?
[00:39:17] Because I never stopped.
[00:39:18] You guys were, you know, getting off on your exit or I'm on, I'm the captain of the train.
[00:39:23] I'm not getting off.
[00:39:24] I have a destination to be at.
[00:39:26] If you want to get off on your stop, that's cool.
[00:39:28] But I got to go for it.
[00:39:30] I got to make it.
[00:39:31] Like I told myself a long time ago, like I'm going to make it.
[00:39:36] Like there's no way.
[00:39:37] Like it got to have, it has to happen.
[00:39:40] Like it's going to happen.
[00:39:41] There's no other way.
[00:39:42] I love it.
[00:39:43] This is the Man Up Club Presents podcast.
[00:39:45] And we are talking all things business, all things motivation, all things going hard and getting it.
[00:39:51] We're back on the Man Up Club Presents podcast.
[00:39:53] And I am loving this conversation with Mo.
[00:39:55] So I'm really just learning a lot about his mindset and understanding what it takes.
[00:40:02] What is the thought process to being a go-getter?
[00:40:06] Jake, how are you loving this conversation?
[00:40:08] Shout out to Jake on the podcast.
[00:40:09] Shout out Jake.
[00:40:10] I love this conversation.
[00:40:11] It's every conversation we have.
[00:40:14] It's deep.
[00:40:14] It goes deep.
[00:40:16] Cuts deep.
[00:40:17] Deep.
[00:40:17] Okay.
[00:40:18] So you, you, when you're talking about, you know, the chase and the grind, the tone that you use is exciting.
[00:40:28] Like, do you find, are you, do you find fun in the grind?
[00:40:34] Yeah, I do.
[00:40:35] Because at the end of the day, I know like I done manifest so much so far that if I just keep on doing and saying and going for what I'm going to have, I'm going to have that.
[00:40:45] I'm going to get it.
[00:40:45] So I'll just be excited because one day it's all going to fall through.
[00:40:48] And I'm going to be like, yeah.
[00:40:49] But at the end of the day too, I'm just happy with the whole process.
[00:40:52] Because at the end of the day, even if you don't make it and all of that, you got to just be happy with everything that's going on already.
[00:40:58] Because you might already be at the top and you don't know it.
[00:41:03] You doing what you're doing on the whole road and you're like, oh, I just want to get to somewhere else.
[00:41:07] But years ago, you was praying for being right here, you know, in this position that you are right now.
[00:41:12] So you just got to take it all and just be blessed and just be happy and just be thankful for what you're doing and where you're going in life, you know, because you can always be somewhere.
[00:41:21] You can always fall down.
[00:41:22] You can always get to the top, come back down.
[00:41:24] You know, you got to be humble.
[00:41:25] You got to just, you got to keep working for it.
[00:41:28] That's what I learned.
[00:41:29] Like, it's going to be ups and downs no matter what.
[00:41:31] Like, you're going to get to the top.
[00:41:33] You might fall down a couple.
[00:41:34] You might have to get back up to the top.
[00:41:36] You might have to just keep fighting for, you get to the top, you're going to have to fight for your spot.
[00:41:40] Right.
[00:41:41] Everybody wants to be at the top.
[00:41:42] That's right.
[00:41:43] So now you got people that are just as hungry as you coming up.
[00:41:46] Mm-hmm.
[00:41:46] Now you like, oh, you got to keep working.
[00:41:49] You got to just keep working.
[00:41:51] Yeah.
[00:41:51] It's about loving the journey.
[00:41:53] For sure.
[00:41:54] You know, and it just, I'm just being inspired by my own right now.
[00:42:00] Y'all like.
[00:42:01] Y'all like.
[00:42:02] Y'all like.
[00:42:02] Y'all like.
[00:42:02] Y'all like inspiring me, bro.
[00:42:04] Because listen, listen, listen.
[00:42:06] Because I'm not going to lie to you.
[00:42:08] I feel like, I feel like we're at different places.
[00:42:11] And I want to get to where your mindset is at.
[00:42:15] And what I mean by that is.
[00:42:17] Yes.
[00:42:18] Okay.
[00:42:19] I love the journey.
[00:42:19] Like it's a, it's a blessing to be able to, you know, for example, be on, be a host in the man of a podcast.
[00:42:26] For sure.
[00:42:26] You're the program director.
[00:42:26] It's a blessing to do music.
[00:42:28] You know what I'm saying?
[00:42:30] I get to do it.
[00:42:31] You know, but at the same time, I'm not going to lie.
[00:42:36] Like my mindset is kind of more feeling a lot of pressure.
[00:42:41] And like you said, you're my, you're the, you're the biggest critic that you are.
[00:42:46] So it's all in your head.
[00:42:48] It's all in your head.
[00:42:49] If you keep telling yourself you're going to make it and you're going to win and you just force your thoughts to be nothing but positive, even in a negative situation, it's going to turn out for you.
[00:42:58] Yeah.
[00:42:58] Yeah.
[00:42:59] And, and the thing is like where you're at, it's like you are truly like in the journey.
[00:43:06] Like you're, you're, you're, you're satisfied.
[00:43:08] Not saying that you're going to settle for less and be content, but like, it's just like you're finding the joy and the satisfaction and the meaning and the purpose from being in the moment though.
[00:43:18] If this all it was, I'd be cool with it.
[00:43:21] Wow.
[00:43:21] Yeah.
[00:43:21] Like I'm still cool with it.
[00:43:23] It's all good.
[00:43:23] If I don't make it to the top, I'm still cool with who I am at the end of the day.
[00:43:27] Cause I know I tried.
[00:43:28] But I tried my hardest to get there and that's okay.
[00:43:32] Wow.
[00:43:32] It's okay.
[00:43:33] Yeah.
[00:43:34] Cause there's a, there's on the other hand, there's a lot of successful people, go getters, just like us, but they have a little different mindset and they're, they're just like, it's never enough.
[00:43:44] No, no, no, no, no.
[00:43:45] It's never enough.
[00:43:45] It is just enough.
[00:43:46] Like you, you look at, you look at their situation and it's like, bro, you let, I'm going to just make up a situation.
[00:43:53] You, you, you got a Grammy.
[00:43:56] You're in five movies.
[00:43:59] You, you have, you know, three houses, you know, you, you have your own nanny or whatever the case may be.
[00:44:06] But, but they're just like, no, it's not enough.
[00:44:08] More than well off.
[00:44:09] It's not, it's not enough.
[00:44:10] It's not enough.
[00:44:11] And so that is a detriment.
[00:44:14] That mindset, I believe is a detriment, you know, to where it's like successful people are so hard on themselves or they're always looking at the future that they never enjoy the present.
[00:44:24] Yep.
[00:44:25] For sure.
[00:44:25] That's a fact.
[00:44:26] You know, you might, like you said, you, you so worried about getting somewhere else that everything around you is right there that you need.
[00:44:33] You know, you, you might, oh, I got to do this.
[00:44:36] Now you're not spending time with your family.
[00:44:38] Now, now it's too late.
[00:44:39] So God forbid something happens to him.
[00:44:41] Now you're like, oh, I wish I would have.
[00:44:42] Right.
[00:44:43] But you're too busy on that grind.
[00:44:44] You know?
[00:44:44] So you gotta, you gotta balance it out.
[00:44:47] You gotta just go with the flow, I'd say.
[00:44:49] Do you journal?
[00:44:51] I don't.
[00:44:52] In my head, I do.
[00:44:53] Okay.
[00:44:53] That's surprising.
[00:44:54] I need to though, but nah, I guess I journal in my music.
[00:44:57] Oh, okay.
[00:44:58] Okay.
[00:44:58] Makes sense.
[00:44:59] I just write everything down or just, you know, put it out there or just, you know, if not, I talk to people, you know, find people that I can connect with and just open up.
[00:45:09] Just pour all of this into them or somebody, hopefully they'll pick up little jewels and whatnot.
[00:45:14] For sure.
[00:45:15] So on your journey to, you know, growing your business and growing yourself as an artist and training and just being on a high frequency, high vibration of life.
[00:45:26] That's definitely.
[00:45:27] What are the things that you avoid on your journey?
[00:45:31] Like, what are you going, what are you staying away from?
[00:45:33] What are you like, oh, no, I'm not, I'm good on that.
[00:45:36] Or like, cause there's a lot of distractions on the road when you drive it.
[00:45:39] It is, it is.
[00:45:40] Um, I'd say certain people, um, certain women, um, certain men, certain, uh, situations, I'd say, um, negative energies.
[00:45:54] You know, people are always like looking at, um, the wrong outcomes are just always down.
[00:46:00] You know, I try and stay away from that.
[00:46:02] Cause at the end of the day, I'm, I'm up, I'm always trying to stay up.
[00:46:05] So even if we are going through something that could bring us down, no, you gotta stay up.
[00:46:10] You gotta keep staying up.
[00:46:11] Cause we can't have that type of, you know, negative energy around.
[00:46:15] We gotta always keep doing the right thing and just keep, you know, believing that everything's gonna work out, you know?
[00:46:20] So that, um, try and just keep a schedule, you know, that's important to have a, cause when you don't, when you have too much free time on your hands, you know, you just, now you're doing anything.
[00:46:33] Say that, say that, say that.
[00:46:34] Say that, say that.
[00:46:36] Um, yeah, that, that's, that's real.
[00:46:39] Certain women, certain dudes.
[00:46:43] Yup.
[00:46:43] Be specific.
[00:46:45] What, what certain women, like, what, what certain women you'd be keeping away from or avoiding?
[00:46:50] I would say people who don't know where they're going in life.
[00:46:55] So, or, or people who's always, I just say like some people who's always in the club, some people who's always kicking it all the time.
[00:47:01] And people who are always, um, not so much, um, doing the things that they know they need to do to get ahead in life.
[00:47:08] You know?
[00:47:09] So you're always kicking it.
[00:47:10] You're always having fun.
[00:47:12] You're always smoking, drinking.
[00:47:13] You're always partying.
[00:47:14] And I try and stay away from that because I'm not even doing that no more.
[00:47:18] So like, we'll kick it and party throughout the day or whatever we're doing, we're going to find time to have a good time.
[00:47:23] But we're not going, that's another thing that'd be blowing me.
[00:47:27] People go out every weekend and not saying nothing's wrong with that.
[00:47:29] But like some people go out every weekend and you're celebrating.
[00:47:32] What are you celebrating?
[00:47:33] Like you didn't do anything.
[00:47:34] You know what I mean?
[00:47:35] Like for real though, you didn't do anything.
[00:47:38] You've been, you know, BS in the whole time.
[00:47:41] You, you know, you blowing your money in the club.
[00:47:43] You trying to come up, find somebody or to support where you want to be in life.
[00:47:49] You know, everybody's looking for a come up or a person that's going to get them to the next level.
[00:47:54] But really it's all on you, you know, so trying to stay away from people or dudes that, you know, that being in the streets too much and all of that and just be going down the wrong path.
[00:48:05] Because at the end of the day, like, that's not where you want to be.
[00:48:07] Like, you know what I'm saying?
[00:48:08] You're going to end up dead or in jail.
[00:48:09] So at the end of the day, you want to make it with your life.
[00:48:12] You got to get away from certain people.
[00:48:14] You got to get away from people who don't have your best interest at heart.
[00:48:18] You know, you got to stay clear away from them.
[00:48:20] Even ask your family or your friends, if they not really the best person for you and see what you got going on and always making hate comments or hating on you or saying little slicks, just fall back from them.
[00:48:31] You ain't got to stop loving them.
[00:48:32] Just fall back from them.
[00:48:33] You know, just take time to just be just work on you.
[00:48:37] Ain't nothing wrong with working on you and staying away and just like doing you because that's what the next person going to do.
[00:48:44] That's what the millionaire is going to do.
[00:48:45] That's what them successful people are going to do to get ahead in life.
[00:48:48] They going to stay clear of all of that BS to make sure their family's good, to make sure they want to be in life.
[00:48:54] And then, yeah, you see them.
[00:48:55] You're like, oh, I want to be like that.
[00:48:57] But in reality, you don't do anything to be like that.
[00:49:00] You know, you don't set a schedule.
[00:49:02] You don't work hard.
[00:49:03] You don't eat right.
[00:49:03] You don't have your mind frame right.
[00:49:05] You don't start a business.
[00:49:07] You don't do none of that.
[00:49:07] And you know why, y'all?
[00:49:09] You know why, though?
[00:49:10] Because, see, you know, you would think that it's like, oh, oh, everything that you're saying, you would think that people would be like, oh, of course.
[00:49:16] It's harder than said than done.
[00:49:17] It's easier said than done.
[00:49:19] And most people are going to do what's comfortable because the grind is uncomfortable.
[00:49:27] That's another thing that kills.
[00:49:28] You got to get out of your comfort zone.
[00:49:30] You got to face your fears.
[00:49:31] You got to just dive head first in the unknown.
[00:49:34] Wow.
[00:49:35] Yeah.
[00:49:36] Yeah.
[00:49:37] Mo, this is golden nuggets.
[00:49:41] Okay?
[00:49:42] This is golden nuggets.
[00:49:43] For sure.
[00:49:47] Love it.
[00:49:48] Other words of encouragement for people who want to start their own business or, you know, just thinking right now.
[00:49:57] Just do it.
[00:49:58] Just jump right in.
[00:49:59] Just do it like that.
[00:50:01] Write it down and just go into it because you can always start another business.
[00:50:04] That's the great thing about this world.
[00:50:06] You can always start over.
[00:50:08] If you're not dead, you can always start over.
[00:50:10] If you're not in a business, you can always start over.
[00:50:12] Start back over.
[00:50:13] It's okay to start back over.
[00:50:15] Just go for it.
[00:50:15] Just do it.
[00:50:16] Don't think too much on it.
[00:50:17] Just go for it.
[00:50:19] There you have it, y'all.
[00:50:20] This has been a wonderful episode of the Man Up Club Presents.
[00:50:24] Mo, thank you so much.
[00:50:25] Yeah, no doubt.
[00:50:25] Thank y'all.
[00:50:26] Thank you so much.
[00:50:27] Shout out to the Man Up Club.
[00:50:28] Yes.
[00:50:29] Yes.
[00:50:30] We will see y'all in another episode.