We've got a special spiritual detox episode of Da Fixx featuring author, filmmaker and producer, Michael Chin, who discusses his faith-infused upbringing, his creative process, and the success of his films on Tubi. He also shares insights into his vision for incorporating creativity and entrepreneurship in the church. Our next guest, Apostle Veryl Howard shares her journey transitioning from beauty pageants to managing talent in the entertainment industry. She also gives her unique perspective on the modern church, demons, false prophets and what needs to change for the church to be what God intended.
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[00:00:00] It's the stories, the journeys, the testimonies. It's the spiritual detox.
[00:00:06] Welcome back. Welcome back, DJ Focus, Dice Gamble.
[00:00:09] You tap back into the fix your source of faith and fuse hip hop, R&B and poetry.
[00:00:13] It's time for our spiritual detox and we got a special one today.
[00:00:17] We talk about it all the time, you know, up and coming movers
[00:00:21] and shakers in our space who are, you know, doing some different things.
[00:00:25] Y'all listen, anybody who, you know, has listened to us for a listen
[00:00:28] one day know that we love storytellers.
[00:00:32] We love people who can create films and just tell a story.
[00:00:37] So listen, we got a super talented listen.
[00:00:40] He's a filmmaker.
[00:00:41] He's a author to as well.
[00:00:43] Director, producer.
[00:00:45] He do a little bit of everything.
[00:00:46] The one and only Michael Chin is joining us today.
[00:00:49] What's going on, Michael?
[00:00:50] Oh, how are you doing?
[00:00:52] I'm good.
[00:00:53] Man, appreciate you coming through, man.
[00:00:56] Excited to talk with you, man.
[00:00:57] You've have been doing a lot of things.
[00:01:00] First, I got to I got to ask out the gate, man.
[00:01:03] What made you come up with the tag?
[00:01:05] You don't make Christian films for, you know, you don't make
[00:01:08] corny Christian films like come on and break that down.
[00:01:12] I'm packed that a little bit for the church so the church
[00:01:14] can understand why you, you know, say what you said.
[00:01:18] Absolutely.
[00:01:19] Yeah, I don't make cheesy church films.
[00:01:20] I don't make those films that, you know, people like
[00:01:25] that's another little church for okay, whatever.
[00:01:26] I make those like real raw authentic films that like you
[00:01:31] know, you going through the same thing.
[00:01:33] No matter if you're in a church or in the world and everyone
[00:01:36] still receives the universal message of love.
[00:01:40] Why do you think why do you think so many people in the
[00:01:42] church are scared to be, you know, really vulnerable and
[00:01:46] show that?
[00:01:47] No, we're flawed.
[00:01:48] We struggle.
[00:01:49] That's why we need the community.
[00:01:51] That's why we come and continue to grow in our word.
[00:01:53] Like why do you think so many filmmakers, you know, to your
[00:01:56] point make the cheesy films instead of investing in doing
[00:02:01] and making the films that you choose to make?
[00:02:04] Yeah.
[00:02:04] No, I just I feel like they I feel like, you know, they're
[00:02:09] scared to, you know, be transparent with who they
[00:02:13] are because they would have to look at themselves.
[00:02:17] You know what I'm saying?
[00:02:19] And so it's easier to write these surface level type of story,
[00:02:24] you know, stuff the cake and fluff, but to really touch the
[00:02:28] soul and to win souls, you have to be transparent.
[00:02:31] So I think it's just easier to just not have to face yourself.
[00:02:34] You know?
[00:02:36] Well, I hope we wake up.
[00:02:37] We in 2024 we need to wake up and listen self reflection
[00:02:42] and self personal growth should be high on our list as
[00:02:46] believers.
[00:02:47] The sanctification process is a daily process.
[00:02:50] Shout to everybody who understand they were.
[00:02:53] Oh, I'm glad to talk with you, man, because I've been seeing
[00:02:55] some of your videos, man.
[00:02:57] And listen, you are you look controversial and I mad at you.
[00:03:01] I enjoyed I was I got my popcorn on one of your things.
[00:03:04] I say, wait a minute.
[00:03:05] I gotta sit back and watch this a couple more times.
[00:03:07] Just talk about, you know, your approach to breaking
[00:03:11] down the word.
[00:03:11] I know you use your platform, you know, all your
[00:03:13] social media platforms to break down the word.
[00:03:16] And you even go back and you really go back to the break
[00:03:19] history and really like unpack that thing.
[00:03:23] What made you want to start doing it on that level?
[00:03:27] Yes.
[00:03:28] So just taking off the lens of religion, you know what I'm
[00:03:32] saying because or I should say man made religion because
[00:03:35] scripture said that the only pure religion in the file to
[00:03:38] follow is the widow visit the widows and the fatherless
[00:03:42] and keep yourself on spot out of the world.
[00:03:43] Basically what you do out of love.
[00:03:45] So man made religion has put these glasses over us that
[00:03:50] literally when we take them off, we see the word of God.
[00:03:54] We see the Bible for what it truly is God's word.
[00:03:58] And so I'm like, I have no I have no denominations paying
[00:04:02] me to say one thing.
[00:04:04] I have no, you know, I have no I'm free.
[00:04:06] Let me just teach what I'm learning with the Lord is
[00:04:10] showing me and so yeah, like it is so important to go
[00:04:13] into the original wording of it because you truly get
[00:04:17] the definition you get that you lose in the English
[00:04:21] translation.
[00:04:21] You really get what is saying and it's like wow, it's
[00:04:25] just mind blowing for sure.
[00:04:27] It is I think sometimes believers forget that we are,
[00:04:31] you know, it's okay for us to be able to follow a Jewish
[00:04:35] leader, whether people believe it or not Jesus Christ
[00:04:39] was a Jewish.
[00:04:41] So to your point, yes, you should want to study some
[00:04:45] history on it.
[00:04:46] Um, share a little bit of your faith journey with the
[00:04:48] people man like right?
[00:04:49] How did you develop your personal relationship?
[00:04:51] Like are you a PK?
[00:04:53] Did you just grow up just in the word like this?
[00:04:56] Because I feel like, you know, you have been on fire
[00:04:59] and you young and you but it seems like you always
[00:05:01] have been on fire for God.
[00:05:03] So just walk us through a little bit of your faith
[00:05:05] journey.
[00:05:05] Yeah, so I'm a PG case.
[00:05:07] So yes, I'm a pastors grand kid.
[00:05:09] Oh, grew up apostolic Pentecostal.
[00:05:13] So you know, definitely receiving the Holy Ghost with
[00:05:16] we're receiving the Holy Ghost speaking in tongues
[00:05:18] being baptized in Jesus name.
[00:05:20] And so then I had a brick wall said, okay, I'm
[00:05:22] saving now what?
[00:05:23] You know, I got the Holy Ghost.
[00:05:24] I'm back to now what you know what I'm saying?
[00:05:26] So I said, oh, okay, it's more to this thing.
[00:05:28] So I'm I'm I'm listening to the white evangelicals,
[00:05:32] you know, talk about healings and you know,
[00:05:34] miracles and all this stuff.
[00:05:36] I'm like, oh wow, it's more than and then I come
[00:05:38] across miles and roll and I hear about the kingdom.
[00:05:40] I'm like, oh my gosh, it's so much.
[00:05:41] You know, it's like the word is never ending.
[00:05:43] And so I'm I'm I'm reading it for myself from study
[00:05:46] and I'm just like, it's so much that I don't know
[00:05:50] about this which makes me and I'm like, it's
[00:05:52] fun to really sit and study it.
[00:05:54] And I'm like, I'm learning so much.
[00:05:55] It's like, I gotta just let it out.
[00:05:57] I let it out through my writing.
[00:05:59] I let it out through my videos.
[00:06:00] Um, um, so yeah, so that's fine.
[00:06:02] That's my journey in the next.
[00:06:03] That's my spiritual journey in the next show.
[00:06:06] How did you meet your wife, man?
[00:06:07] Talk to us about that, man, because I think
[00:06:09] you guys have a very unique relationship and
[00:06:11] definitely talk about your the book
[00:06:13] that you guys did together.
[00:06:15] Absolutely.
[00:06:15] Yeah.
[00:06:16] So we met at church at my church.
[00:06:18] Um, and I mean, I feel like that's the best place
[00:06:21] you know, it is.
[00:06:22] Yeah.
[00:06:23] Yeah.
[00:06:24] So we met at we met at church.
[00:06:26] Um, and we wrote this book.
[00:06:28] She did majority of the writing, you know,
[00:06:30] I, you know, as my story tie at my, my, my
[00:06:33] nuggets in there, but um, this talks
[00:06:35] about the, the warfare of the mind and
[00:06:38] that Satan doesn't have power over you.
[00:06:40] He can only suggest things and get you to use
[00:06:43] the power that works within you to bring
[00:06:46] about the reality that he's the lies
[00:06:48] that he's telling you, you know, it's talking
[00:06:51] about, yeah, winning that warfare.
[00:06:53] Um, and we follow a young lady by the name
[00:06:56] of destiny who like her name, she has a
[00:06:58] big destiny that Satan didn't want her
[00:07:01] to fulfill.
[00:07:02] And so his, the title almost not born.
[00:07:04] She was almost not born.
[00:07:05] And so now we see why she was born and with
[00:07:10] the, with the Lord accomplishes through her
[00:07:12] and why Satan didn't even want her to be born.
[00:07:13] So that is available on Amazon.
[00:07:16] Again, it's called almost not born
[00:07:18] and it's available on Amazon.
[00:07:21] That's good.
[00:07:21] Thanks for sharing that.
[00:07:22] Come on and catch the people up for maybe
[00:07:25] some of the listeners right now who've
[00:07:27] never seen any of your movies.
[00:07:30] Walk us through your first movie and catch
[00:07:32] us up to where you are now with your movies.
[00:07:35] Okay, yeah, absolutely.
[00:07:36] So I came out with my very first.
[00:07:38] So I have three movies out, three Christian
[00:07:40] movies out on to be right now.
[00:07:42] So they're free to stream on to be.
[00:07:44] You got the smart TV.
[00:07:45] You got to be on your TV.
[00:07:46] You got your computer.
[00:07:47] Go to to be TV dot com.
[00:07:49] If you got the smartphone download to be
[00:07:51] app.
[00:07:51] You don't even need an account.
[00:07:53] It's free.
[00:07:53] So I got three movies up there.
[00:07:55] I have a Christian superhero and two Christian
[00:07:58] dramas.
[00:07:59] So the first one I came out with was a
[00:08:01] Christian drama called the wages of sin.
[00:08:03] And that log line is a respected pastor
[00:08:06] betrays his family, congregation and community
[00:08:09] when temptation leads him to commit an unthinkable
[00:08:11] sin that lands him in prison.
[00:08:14] So that's the wages of sin.
[00:08:16] It's definitely a juicy drama.
[00:08:18] Christian drama has over 2 million views
[00:08:20] right now.
[00:08:22] Wow.
[00:08:23] Yeah.
[00:08:23] Yeah.
[00:08:24] Yep.
[00:08:25] And I have the Christian superhero movie,
[00:08:30] the keys of the kingdom.
[00:08:31] That log line is as Satan plots to destroy
[00:08:35] the world and archangel of rise to awaken an army
[00:08:38] of souls in the hopes of defeating the demon
[00:08:41] once and for all.
[00:08:43] That's the keys of the kingdom and that's also
[00:08:45] free to stream on to be is a Christian superhero.
[00:08:48] So go ahead and check it out.
[00:08:50] And then I have another movie called a mother's
[00:08:53] daughter and that log line goes as follows a naive
[00:08:58] young lady finds herself in a world of trouble
[00:09:01] when dealing with the one falling for the wrong guy
[00:09:04] turns her life into complete and utter chaos.
[00:09:08] That's a mother's daughter and that currently has
[00:09:09] over 5.2 million views right now on to be and that's
[00:09:13] another juicy Christian drama.
[00:09:16] So go check out all three of those movies.
[00:09:18] And yeah, I look forward to hearing about it.
[00:09:21] Man to God be the glory man.
[00:09:22] I want to salute you man.
[00:09:23] Oh, you success man.
[00:09:25] Again, yeah, listen to people are tapping.
[00:09:28] You got millions of people tapping in and watching
[00:09:30] your movie.
[00:09:31] So definitely solution on that.
[00:09:33] So what's next?
[00:09:34] Well, I mean, are we working on a film?
[00:09:36] Are we writing something?
[00:09:37] What's next?
[00:09:38] So I got two major films that I'm doing now
[00:09:42] that I'm working on now and I'm also working
[00:09:45] on getting ready to do a stage play.
[00:09:48] And so yeah, we just we just being creative.
[00:09:52] Are you are you you just going to be a part of a stage
[00:09:55] play or are you doing all the right?
[00:09:57] No, it's yours.
[00:09:58] You wrote it all.
[00:09:59] That's good.
[00:10:00] He's already written and working on and one play
[00:10:03] already written and working on.
[00:10:05] So I got to ask you if you if you can work with
[00:10:09] two produced, now forgive me, two directors
[00:10:13] that are alive.
[00:10:15] What two directors you picking?
[00:10:17] I'm picking Jordan Peele and Tyler Perry.
[00:10:23] Wow.
[00:10:24] Yeah, yeah, that's gonna be impactful.
[00:10:26] That's gonna be impactful.
[00:10:27] And listen to where you going?
[00:10:29] Yeah, you definitely Tyler gonna probably call
[00:10:32] you soon because you making a lot of waves
[00:10:34] and people are noticing and people are seeing
[00:10:36] what you're doing.
[00:10:37] So I really hope that Tyler Perry situation
[00:10:40] happens for you young King.
[00:10:41] I really do.
[00:10:44] What's that one thing you would change man?
[00:10:45] And I really want to hear your heart.
[00:10:48] We know within the church, you know, we're not perfect,
[00:10:53] but we always have room to grow.
[00:10:55] So in your humble opinion, you know, growing up
[00:10:58] in the church, having a spiritual resume that
[00:11:01] you have now and your understanding your knowledge
[00:11:04] of what God is.
[00:11:06] What's that one thing you would change in the church?
[00:11:08] If you had the power to change it, what needs
[00:11:10] to be shifted and changed?
[00:11:12] Whoo.
[00:11:13] And can I can I give you a BCR?
[00:11:16] I'm going.
[00:11:18] I would say honestly, so in Revelation it talks
[00:11:22] about how the dragon makes war with those that
[00:11:26] have that keep the commandments and have
[00:11:29] the testimony of Jesus Christ.
[00:11:31] So we got the testimony of Jesus Christ.
[00:11:33] I would also go back to not neglecting the
[00:11:37] the commandments of God in addition to having
[00:11:40] the testimony of Jesus Christ.
[00:11:41] And so I would I would worship on Saturdays and
[00:11:47] you know, keep the Sabbath day holy and
[00:11:52] yeah, we start with that.
[00:11:54] And also I would just I would make church specifically
[00:11:59] for the people make building Kingdom entrepreneurs.
[00:12:03] That's it.
[00:12:05] All see now is I thought I was done now.
[00:12:07] I got to ask another question because you're
[00:12:09] right when you talk about building Kingdom entrepreneurs.
[00:12:12] What's that one thing is that it?
[00:12:14] What when you talk about why millennials and Gen Z's
[00:12:18] leaving the church?
[00:12:19] What's that one thing you would want to encourage them
[00:12:22] and and and help them to understand the importance
[00:12:25] of staying in the church?
[00:12:27] Yeah, definitely.
[00:12:29] Definitely.
[00:12:32] We are created an image and lightness of God.
[00:12:35] And so he is the creator.
[00:12:36] And so we are co-creators of our own reality.
[00:12:40] He downloads in us as we tap him with the Holy Spirit
[00:12:43] tapping with the Holy Ghost.
[00:12:44] He downloads into us what he wants to be brought in the
[00:12:47] earth and so you're downloading that straight from heaven.
[00:12:51] And so it's important for us those that go into the church
[00:12:56] because the church is for the the the perfecting of the
[00:13:00] saints.
[00:13:00] So why so the saints can go out and minister and bring
[00:13:03] more bring new people into the church.
[00:13:05] They get their perfected.
[00:13:07] They go and bring new people into the church.
[00:13:08] So it's it really is use your creativity for Jesus Christ
[00:13:14] and and and think because he has he's a kingdom entrepreneur.
[00:13:18] So think like think like that, you know what I'm saying?
[00:13:21] And so just use it.
[00:13:22] Just use your gifts for Christ because only only what
[00:13:25] you do for Christ will last.
[00:13:27] Michael, I appreciate you coming through man.
[00:13:29] Tell the people how they can connect with you following
[00:13:32] you in all your social media platforms.
[00:13:34] Yeah, so all my social media Instagram, TikTok at
[00:13:38] I am Cleo's that's I am K L E O S I am Cleo's I am K L E O S
[00:13:47] Facebook, YouTube, Michael Cleo's chin just like how it's
[00:13:51] built.
[00:13:52] So yeah, when I tell you I'm excited because listen, I've
[00:13:57] been building with my sister for some years now and when
[00:13:59] I tell you she's a moving shaker listening if you
[00:14:02] ain't working, you might as well get out her way.
[00:14:03] She don't like nobody around her that ain't work.
[00:14:05] No, she gonna tell you she gonna tell you the truth
[00:14:07] now you're gonna have to bust a move now you're gonna have
[00:14:09] to be a part of something.
[00:14:11] You're gonna be preaching the word of God.
[00:14:12] You're gonna be doing something positive and I'm excited
[00:14:15] because listen, she is in every space you can think of.
[00:14:19] Of course, you know, a lot of people, you know, know her
[00:14:22] start with preaching also just starting a faith management
[00:14:27] talent casting a management agency.
[00:14:31] She's an actress.
[00:14:32] She sings.
[00:14:34] She probably wrote two or three books to as well.
[00:14:36] Yeah, I just think you sing a little something to as well
[00:14:39] in some of these movies.
[00:14:40] You be singing a little note to some of these movies to as
[00:14:43] well.
[00:14:43] Possibly listen without further ado the super talented
[00:14:46] apostle world is in the building doctor.
[00:14:48] A possible world is in the building how are you doing
[00:14:51] sis?
[00:14:54] You know we're gonna be lit tonight.
[00:14:57] I'm so excited to be here with you and dice DJ.
[00:15:01] We longtime friends and you have been looking out for
[00:15:04] me and my friends and artists for a while.
[00:15:08] So I'm extremely excited.
[00:15:09] I was so happy to see you in Cleveland when I was there
[00:15:12] with Dietrich and it's a family reunion tonight.
[00:15:17] It is a family reunion.
[00:15:18] Absolutely.
[00:15:19] And you know, for the people who may don't know you just
[00:15:22] share a little bit of the journey.
[00:15:24] You've done so much but just catch the people up on some
[00:15:28] of the history of you being in the industry, everything
[00:15:31] you've done everything you've accomplished.
[00:15:34] Oh DJ, we will be here all night.
[00:15:37] Come on.
[00:15:37] Talk your talk this your time talk your talk night.
[00:15:40] Oh my God.
[00:15:41] Well I started out a long time ago doing beauty pageants
[00:15:43] modeling all that good stuff.
[00:15:45] I wanted to be an actress and at that time I didn't do
[00:15:49] the acting thing.
[00:15:50] I danced and I modeled and somewhere along the line
[00:15:55] I ended up managing artists.
[00:15:58] I was working in the play business with Tyler Perry
[00:16:01] David Talbert Emmanuel Seagal's
[00:16:04] even Bishop Jason a whole bunch of play directors.
[00:16:08] And so I started meeting artists who were in the place
[00:16:11] in between their albums or in between their tours
[00:16:14] or whatever it may be and meeting actors.
[00:16:17] And so I was initially hired to do branding and marketing
[00:16:21] and publicity with the plays and so what happened
[00:16:24] was the the actors and the artists started saying,
[00:16:27] Oh you need to manage me and I was like,
[00:16:30] I'm trying to manage nobody.
[00:16:32] I need to stay for paycheck because you know management
[00:16:35] you got to hustle you have get dates.
[00:16:37] You know you get a percentage.
[00:16:38] I was like, I know what I'm doing.
[00:16:40] They gonna pay me X amount of dollars to market promote
[00:16:43] to cast and so one of the plays that ended up being
[00:16:47] the acting coach if somebody couldn't learn their lines
[00:16:50] they sent them to me.
[00:16:51] I have to train them to act.
[00:16:53] You know these are national plays and so eventually
[00:16:57] Michael speaks I'll never forget it.
[00:16:58] He kept asking me to manage him.
[00:16:59] He saw Jesus is real and he had gotten this deal with Sony.
[00:17:04] He was like, will you manage me?
[00:17:05] I was like, no, Mike.
[00:17:06] No, no, no.
[00:17:07] He kept bugging me and bugging me and bug me.
[00:17:08] So I tell you what, he said, I'm gonna get Sony to pay you
[00:17:14] to do marketing promotions while you manage me.
[00:17:18] I said, I wouldn't now but we're gonna have a deal.
[00:17:22] I'm not gonna be managing you sitting back scraping
[00:17:25] trying to get you dates.
[00:17:26] Can't eat can't get pay my bills.
[00:17:29] Can't even get my hair dead.
[00:17:31] Okay, all my nails done on my lashes.
[00:17:33] I said, we gotta figure this out.
[00:17:35] So he got Sony to hire me to do his marketing and promotions
[00:17:41] and I said, okay, then that way while I'm grinding on
[00:17:43] behalf of him managing him, then I'll at least I'm making
[00:17:48] something.
[00:17:49] And so that's how we kind of started and then after that
[00:17:53] tie-stop calls me.
[00:17:54] They said, can you root to us because I wrote to her
[00:17:56] soup?
[00:17:57] Can you root a tour for Dietrich had it and this was way
[00:18:01] back with his first song.
[00:18:04] And so they hired me to root his tour.
[00:18:07] And so me and Dietrich connected.
[00:18:08] I've been with him for 30 years as a result of that.
[00:18:12] And so just kept going and going and going and then
[00:18:14] God bought the idea back around with me to get back
[00:18:17] into pageantry and all of that.
[00:18:19] So I started modeling again over 50 summer plus size
[00:18:23] model a model with fashion week.
[00:18:25] And when I'm at the right size and nothing but the Lord's
[00:18:29] doing because I thought that modeling was over with.
[00:18:31] You ain't possible.
[00:18:32] What do you mean when you let it go?
[00:18:34] Let it go.
[00:18:35] What you mean?
[00:18:36] Listen, I ain't believing you put you in no plus size model.
[00:18:40] You ain't no plus size model.
[00:18:42] You are beautiful woman.
[00:18:43] Now what you talking about?
[00:18:45] Thank you.
[00:18:45] I'm plus size.
[00:18:46] I'm plus size.
[00:18:47] I'm a size when I model.
[00:18:49] I have to be a 10 where regular models are zeros
[00:18:52] and twos and they're like 6162.
[00:18:55] Yeah, and they're like 171819.
[00:18:57] Okay, I got 40 years on them and I'm not a size zero or two.
[00:19:01] So I'm a I'm in the plus size category.
[00:19:04] So I can't.
[00:19:07] I love it.
[00:19:08] My grandma said don't nobody want to bone but it all.
[00:19:11] So go ahead.
[00:19:11] Okay.
[00:19:12] But the industry want to bone the fashion industry.
[00:19:15] They just want to throw clothes on you and you hang on
[00:19:17] it hang on you like a hanger.
[00:19:19] They don't want all the curves.
[00:19:20] They don't want nothing else.
[00:19:22] You know, and it wants you to be a face to look like you 10.
[00:19:25] So I had all of that up against me but you know, I got a slid
[00:19:29] up in there and I became a plus size model and I think God
[00:19:33] because you know, I've been a France been Italy modeling
[00:19:36] and then this casting thing, you know, I casted a long time
[00:19:41] ago before I started with the artists and God told me give
[00:19:43] it up.
[00:19:43] I was like no TV.
[00:19:45] I like you know, and so I gave it up.
[00:19:49] Then he says time to get back in it.
[00:19:51] So he connected me with my friends who started out.
[00:19:54] We all started out together.
[00:19:55] We were grinding and hustling together and now my friends
[00:19:58] are like 20 years deep.
[00:19:59] They'll do it.
[00:20:01] Wow.
[00:20:02] It's the whole they already knew me.
[00:20:04] We already had a relationship and all of that.
[00:20:06] They know I was cool.
[00:20:07] They knew I grinded.
[00:20:08] They knew I was a hard worker.
[00:20:10] They knew they could trust me and they knew if they
[00:20:12] gave me a task, I was going to get it done.
[00:20:15] As I said, listen, y'all God is calling me back up in
[00:20:18] this stuff.
[00:20:18] So that's how I jump back into it.
[00:20:23] I mean, that's not even like a fifth of the story.
[00:20:26] No, at all.
[00:20:28] Thank you for sharing all of that.
[00:20:30] I'm sitting here like what seed first fruit first
[00:20:34] offering I got a so to get up in this favor club.
[00:20:38] Wait a minute.
[00:20:40] We're in it.
[00:20:42] I got a sheep in the back.
[00:20:45] No, no.
[00:20:46] Talk to us about the international business though.
[00:20:48] This is this was fascinating to me like I knew a little
[00:20:51] bit about you, but just your your travels internationally
[00:20:55] your partnerships like your like just the responsibilities
[00:20:59] you've been able to be a part of.
[00:21:00] Like can you speak speak to us a little bit about that
[00:21:03] everything African Caribbean.
[00:21:07] You said African Caribbean.
[00:21:08] You got Africa stuff Caribbean stuff like all over.
[00:21:12] Yeah.
[00:21:13] Yes, I have.
[00:21:14] Yeah.
[00:21:14] Yeah.
[00:21:15] It's nothing but the favor God.
[00:21:16] The Lord had told me that I had a global ministry.
[00:21:19] Okay, and years ago and I wish I had the picture.
[00:21:21] I'm ascended.
[00:21:22] I'm really going to send you that picture DJ focus
[00:21:25] because I draw prophetically and I was drawing a picture
[00:21:28] one night and they had the world on it and all these
[00:21:31] different countries and stuff and I said God, you know
[00:21:35] who is this force?
[00:21:35] I took it to my bishop and showed it to him at the time
[00:21:39] and he gave it back and I was like, well, can you tell
[00:21:42] me what this is about?
[00:21:43] He kept getting back or took it to him like three times.
[00:21:45] He kept giving back.
[00:21:46] What's the reason why he keep giving it back?
[00:21:48] It's because it's for you.
[00:21:51] It ain't for him.
[00:21:52] That's for you.
[00:21:53] He said I have opened up the globe to you.
[00:21:55] He said because I have entrusted you with territory
[00:21:59] and now I'm entrusted you with bigger territory.
[00:22:02] And so the Lord has allowed me to travel to several countries.
[00:22:06] I also have established relationships for prime ministers,
[00:22:10] premiers in various countries.
[00:22:13] In addition to that, I actually represent some international
[00:22:16] artists have an artist named Sherman Gardner work with his song
[00:22:20] just went viral about something good is going to happen
[00:22:24] to you in the year.
[00:22:25] He accidentally just did that song in the middle of night
[00:22:27] and went viral.
[00:22:28] Wow.
[00:22:28] Then I have DJ Nicholas.
[00:22:30] He's like the number one rap DJ type artist from Jamaica
[00:22:35] and then I also represent last call who had a number
[00:22:38] one song called Victory.
[00:22:40] And you get right here from them again, the COVID and all
[00:22:43] that stuff kind of messed up their career, but they're coming
[00:22:45] back out.
[00:22:46] And so I've been blessed to visit all over the globe.
[00:22:49] I've preached in Africa.
[00:22:51] I've preached in the Caribbean also used to shoot.
[00:22:54] I have a partner.
[00:22:55] His name is Matthew Lee do say he has gone in and we used
[00:22:59] to take people back and forth to Ghana to connect them.
[00:23:03] You know, because of the diaspora and I was part of
[00:23:05] something called the Joseph project where we were one
[00:23:08] two unite African Americans and Africans.
[00:23:10] So we would take people of their we will connect them with
[00:23:13] their tribe or connect them with their King and shoot
[00:23:16] documentaries and so I've been able to do that and I've
[00:23:21] been in some countries I've preached and like, oh my God,
[00:23:23] when I did a preaching tour in Puerto Rico, that was one
[00:23:26] of my most scariest international opportunities and
[00:23:29] I know we don't have all night long.
[00:23:31] I want to bore you with this.
[00:23:33] But I speak Spanish and let's go.
[00:23:36] He told me I have a knack for languages like I speak a little
[00:23:40] Chinese, a little bit of Swahili understand French.
[00:23:43] So God has given me a knack for languages because of the
[00:23:46] ministry.
[00:23:47] So when I went to Puerto Rico, that was one of my
[00:23:50] interesting times because the pastor of our system was
[00:23:53] Puerto Rican.
[00:23:54] He came to pick me up two hours before I was to leave
[00:23:57] and he was playing his congos in just worshiping and I
[00:23:59] said, well, why are you doing this?
[00:24:01] Why are you here two hours early?
[00:24:02] Lord said we needed to worship before he opened up
[00:24:04] the gates of the country to let me in.
[00:24:06] Wow.
[00:24:07] And the name of the country is Isla de Caderro.
[00:24:10] That means the lamb of God, the green paces, Isla de
[00:24:14] Caderro.
[00:24:15] So literally, literally we worship until I literally
[00:24:18] heard the gates of the country opening up.
[00:24:21] I could hear it and God said now you can leave and go
[00:24:24] get on your plane.
[00:24:25] And so when I went there and I was preaching, I
[00:24:27] thought I was going to preach his Spanish, which
[00:24:29] was so funny and I was trying to tell him that the
[00:24:31] fire of God is all over me.
[00:24:33] So I'm supposed to say, where do they deal?
[00:24:36] So for me and that means the fire of God is on me
[00:24:38] instead of me doing it.
[00:24:39] I said, oh, mucho caliente, mucho caliente.
[00:24:45] And I was calling myself hot.
[00:24:47] Very hot.
[00:24:48] Very hot.
[00:24:48] I'm a hot somebody.
[00:24:50] You understand what I'm saying in the midst of my
[00:24:52] preaching.
[00:24:52] It's so cool.
[00:24:54] They just think nobody in the audience spoke English
[00:24:56] and I didn't move to Cali.
[00:24:58] Yep.
[00:24:59] Hey, you know, I was just going into it.
[00:25:01] And so I said, you know what?
[00:25:03] It broke the ice.
[00:25:04] Everybody started laughing after that they receive me.
[00:25:07] They said this girl is trying this black girl is trying.
[00:25:11] So after that I said let my interpreter be here with me.
[00:25:16] Yeah.
[00:25:16] So I've been in countries where I've had to have an
[00:25:18] interpreter, which is very hard to preach with an
[00:25:21] interpreter and but still, you know, God has been
[00:25:25] able to minister.
[00:25:26] So that's just some of my international stuff.
[00:25:28] Just some of it.
[00:25:29] Gloria.
[00:25:29] Yes.
[00:25:30] Yes.
[00:25:31] So I was.
[00:25:32] Ah, you've been around so much and you listen to just
[00:25:38] ministry wise.
[00:25:40] Come on.
[00:25:40] The show is called the fix for a reason.
[00:25:42] What was it?
[00:25:43] Was it the church need to change?
[00:25:44] What was that one thing that we need to be fixed?
[00:25:48] Him.
[00:25:49] There it is.
[00:25:50] That's the sermon right there.
[00:25:52] Fixed the church.
[00:25:54] I was just having a conversation earlier with somebody.
[00:25:56] The church is so off of the template of God.
[00:25:59] The church, it's the ideology of the church has nothing to
[00:26:03] do with how God has orchestrated the house of God.
[00:26:07] We have learned how to set our pews up and make the
[00:26:10] man the center of attention on a stage to minimize the
[00:26:14] people that come to hear the word of God.
[00:26:17] We no longer move with the glory cloud of God.
[00:26:19] It's about our buildings.
[00:26:21] It's not about the presence of God.
[00:26:22] It's about how many people it's about the bling bling.
[00:26:26] It's about our different denominations.
[00:26:28] I just finished having this conversation where a pastor
[00:26:32] identified herself with her denomination.
[00:26:35] She didn't identify herself with being a believer of God.
[00:26:39] She identified herself with her denomination and this
[00:26:43] type of stuff is it's it's it's it really is idiotic.
[00:26:48] We have moved away from the glory.
[00:26:49] It's equal by in the house of God.
[00:26:51] I don't smell the presence of God anymore.
[00:26:53] Somebody's not going to like me.
[00:26:55] Folks don't want to do deliverance on nobody.
[00:26:57] Folks don't want to do any auto calls.
[00:27:00] People want to do express church, get you in, get you out.
[00:27:03] And you know, you pay your little money and keep it moving.
[00:27:05] It's a business and that's a reality.
[00:27:08] This is why the world makes mockery of us because we
[00:27:12] have so many fallen people.
[00:27:13] So the church is so watered down.
[00:27:16] Pastors let anything go because they're not running.
[00:27:19] Their appetite is not the appetite of the glory of God
[00:27:22] or being in the presence of God or being by the
[00:27:24] throne of God being under his anointing.
[00:27:26] The appetite has shifted.
[00:27:29] Being that the appetite has shifted the congregation has
[00:27:32] shifted because the congregation emulates what their leader
[00:27:35] does and then also if you have a leader who's stanky, a
[00:27:38] leader who's taunted, a leader who's polluted, a leader
[00:27:41] who's a false prophet at the top.
[00:27:43] That spirit trickles on down into the congregation.
[00:27:46] If you have a leader who's a hormon, a leader who's
[00:27:48] an adulterer, a leader who's a liar, a leader who's
[00:27:51] a manipulator, a leader who has a Jezebel spirit.
[00:27:54] Those spirits trickle down into a congregation.
[00:27:57] So then you have a jacked up congregation because the leader
[00:28:00] ain't free.
[00:28:01] The folk ain't free.
[00:28:02] It's just a feel good message.
[00:28:04] Come again.
[00:28:04] Get your message and go out.
[00:28:06] And this is what has happened.
[00:28:09] But God has some believers.
[00:28:11] He has some remiss.
[00:28:12] He has the true church, the unadulterated church that
[00:28:15] he talks about in revelations that is preparing
[00:28:18] themselves for God.
[00:28:20] They are the bride that is preparing themselves in the
[00:28:23] Book of Matthew that if I, there was some five foolish
[00:28:26] virges who weren't in their position because they weren't
[00:28:29] being prepared and then they want to, when Jesus shows up,
[00:28:32] they want to come borrow oil from the ones who are
[00:28:35] prepared.
[00:28:36] There are going to be some process, going to be trying
[00:28:38] to borrow some oil from some people that's been in a
[00:28:41] prostrate position under the anointing and the glory
[00:28:44] of God.
[00:28:45] Let me just say something to you all.
[00:28:46] I don't want anything more than God.
[00:28:48] I've come too close to death so many times.
[00:28:51] Y'all not hearing me and one of my most recent experiences
[00:28:55] was when God told me worship my mama to the gates
[00:28:59] of heaven.
[00:29:01] I was so close to heaven I could cross over with her.
[00:29:04] Wow.
[00:29:04] And I watched her die in front of me and that's just
[00:29:07] something you watch people.
[00:29:08] They went through one second and a millisecond later.
[00:29:10] What's the difference in the demarcation from going
[00:29:13] over that next line?
[00:29:15] And so with that, it'll pause me and I'm not perfectly
[00:29:19] by any stretch of the imagination.
[00:29:21] I'm trying to get this thing together and I'm asking God
[00:29:23] to detox me every day because I got some junk with me
[00:29:25] that need to come up.
[00:29:26] I still got some folk.
[00:29:28] I'm still learning how to forgive you understand
[00:29:30] what I'm saying?
[00:29:31] I still got some folk that slap you in the face
[00:29:33] and then smile at you at the same time.
[00:29:35] I still got some folks that get like spiritual leeches
[00:29:37] try to take everything from you.
[00:29:39] I still got some folk right in the so-called body
[00:29:41] of Christ that want to compete with you and sabotage
[00:29:44] you.
[00:29:45] I still got people around me that don't even want to see
[00:29:47] me get blessed.
[00:29:48] There's some businesses that are walking in my company.
[00:29:51] You feel me on all of that?
[00:29:52] They walk with Jesus.
[00:29:53] So they're going to walk with us.
[00:29:54] That's why God is still working on me, but I am
[00:29:57] thriving to get it.
[00:30:01] Because this world is discombobulated.
[00:30:03] This come out one click and it could be over with.
[00:30:06] I'm just saying that in our money we can have
[00:30:09] access to I'm just saying when it goes digital
[00:30:13] one click you might not be able to get your bank money.
[00:30:16] You're saying I'm not be able to get it in the bank.
[00:30:18] So this is time out time for the church to be in the
[00:30:22] disarray that it's in.
[00:30:24] See, I don't want me to go there because that's a
[00:30:27] touchy subject for me because God the church stinks
[00:30:31] in his nostrils.
[00:30:33] The church almost has a seared mentality.
[00:30:35] We got to give an answer to that and a lot of
[00:30:38] it has a Luciferian theological approach.
[00:30:42] You know why Lucifer wanted to be God?
[00:30:46] Lucifer wanted the attention.
[00:30:48] The Bible says in Revelation they shall become lovers
[00:30:51] of themselves.
[00:30:52] Sales, right?
[00:30:54] This is what we're in now.
[00:30:56] Nobody has given glory to God for what God is doing.
[00:30:59] God woke us up.
[00:30:59] He kept us from the accident.
[00:31:01] He kept us out of a coma.
[00:31:02] None of us right now are plugged into an IV machine.
[00:31:05] Folks have become lovers of themselves.
[00:31:07] Why?
[00:31:09] The emulating leaders that are lovers of themselves.
[00:31:12] Wow.
[00:31:13] I'm a star.
[00:31:15] Listen, I'm glad she came on here preaching dice because
[00:31:19] listen, some listeners need to hear it.
[00:31:20] They need to hear it.
[00:31:21] Yeah.
[00:31:23] We say it all the time on the show.
[00:31:24] I mean, trust me, that's that was why he asked you
[00:31:26] the question was like, please shed a little light on
[00:31:29] that.
[00:31:29] I think during covid focus, you said all the time a lot
[00:31:31] was exposed, you know in the church through the
[00:31:34] church.
[00:31:34] I think it was like, okay, let's see who really love
[00:31:38] me.
[00:31:39] We're going to find out, but I appreciate you apostle
[00:31:41] doc doc to sharing that because I think sometimes
[00:31:45] people need to hear it from other people, not just us.
[00:31:47] You know, we talked about our time like that is why
[00:31:50] this show is called the fix is because that's the
[00:31:52] true heart of that focus had it initially was like,
[00:31:55] man, we got to change some things.
[00:31:57] You know, people really need to be safe.
[00:31:59] You know, like there are really lost people out
[00:32:01] there and so thank you for your truth and your
[00:32:03] honesty and your transparency and sometimes we need
[00:32:06] to hear it like that, not in a church setting.
[00:32:08] Like you have a millions of viewers potentially who
[00:32:10] could be listening to you say no.
[00:32:13] Yes, God has given me favor.
[00:32:14] I get to do all these wonderful things.
[00:32:16] However, there are still some things that we got
[00:32:18] to work on guys.
[00:32:20] So I appreciate you with the two of you all.
[00:32:22] I told the pastor today, I wish he was on here
[00:32:25] with me right now.
[00:32:26] He's already a host.
[00:32:27] We were talking about it.
[00:32:28] I am in no way interested in hollering at
[00:32:32] anybody every Sunday and watching people run around
[00:32:35] building do a habitual shout.
[00:32:39] Clone shout.
[00:32:41] You ain't moved by the emotional shout son.
[00:32:43] You ain't moved by it.
[00:32:45] I don't even want to move them.
[00:32:47] You understand what I'm saying?
[00:32:48] I'm not trying to manipulate anybody into that crazy
[00:32:51] behavior that folk learn and think it's God because
[00:32:56] they really almost looks demonic.
[00:32:58] Honestly, if you look at an old church with everybody
[00:33:01] shouting the exact same way rolling over these when
[00:33:03] I see stuff like that.
[00:33:04] I'm ready to cast out some demons.
[00:33:06] Yeah, I love it.
[00:33:08] I'm not interested in doing that.
[00:33:10] People have tried to make me that type of pastor.
[00:33:14] That's not who I am.
[00:33:16] If you roll up in here and I see you got a dog spirit
[00:33:18] on you.
[00:33:19] Now this is real stuff.
[00:33:20] I'm talking about a girl wall up here.
[00:33:23] She's bark like dog on her four knees or whatever.
[00:33:25] That's the girl you need to get delivered.
[00:33:27] Okay.
[00:33:27] As you came from another church like this, you coming
[00:33:29] over here to me.
[00:33:30] Yeah, they didn't care as long as she paid her money
[00:33:32] with it was going to take it through no type of deliverance
[00:33:35] or whatever it may be so she could get free and demons
[00:33:37] are real because if they weren't real, why did they ask
[00:33:40] Jesus?
[00:33:40] Can we go in the pigs?
[00:33:41] Right.
[00:33:42] Right.
[00:33:42] Right.
[00:33:42] Oh, I refuse to play church.
[00:33:47] Come on now and to be a pastor that's going yellow
[00:33:49] screaming give you a feel good message or prophylite
[00:33:52] of you so you can run and jump and flip and do
[00:33:54] whatever think you head church and leave out the
[00:33:56] building so I ain't for everybody.
[00:33:58] Come on now.
[00:33:59] But if you want to come in and you want some people
[00:34:01] revelation or you don't mind sitting down and talk.
[00:34:05] We just sit in the circle and talk about God.
[00:34:07] Come on now.
[00:34:08] Well, if you don't mind we going around and each one of
[00:34:11] y'all got a word or if you don't mind us just worship
[00:34:15] in the whole two hours to our two hours.
[00:34:19] I'm in the altar call but we dealing with somebody who's
[00:34:23] sitting up here because the devil been beating their head
[00:34:25] for the last five years and it's out of being
[00:34:28] a bondage and the kids are jacked up husband jacked
[00:34:31] up whole family jacked up because ain't nobody trying to
[00:34:34] get them delivered.
[00:34:37] That's not the house of God I want to be a part of
[00:34:40] and nor do I want to lead and this is how we have
[00:34:44] become when the last time you've seen real ultra
[00:34:47] calls.
[00:34:49] No, when the last time you've seen deliverance
[00:34:51] you know why?
[00:34:52] Because you try to do deliverance on somebody and
[00:34:54] you ain't delivered and you ain't prayed up and
[00:34:56] you ain't fast up.
[00:34:57] That's what them demons are all that past the out like
[00:34:59] okay I've seen last night with so it's all come on
[00:35:03] out.
[00:35:04] Last last night you was you know you was out in the
[00:35:08] dude couple of dudes matter of fact you are a dude.
[00:35:11] I'm just talking real right now this time on
[00:35:13] out challenge you and call your stuff out like
[00:35:16] that last night you was with homeboys wife and
[00:35:19] you man.
[00:35:22] Yeah, we don't see deliverance in ultra calls
[00:35:24] and things like that no more because it requires a
[00:35:26] lifestyle of holiness.
[00:35:29] Come on now and righteousness.
[00:35:31] From the people of God and we have cash that in for
[00:35:35] celebrity fame fortune you know to be seen and
[00:35:40] lovers of ourselves.
[00:35:42] Listen apostle we got to get you back on Lord help me
[00:35:44] I promise you you came on here and listen to
[00:35:48] spirit of God need to you know need to move the
[00:35:50] way it moved because I promise you we had a
[00:35:53] lot of questions to ask you about other stuff but
[00:35:55] yeah listen.
[00:35:56] Now this was this was focused this was necessary
[00:36:00] beyond what you talk about okay okay apostle we
[00:36:04] talk about deliverance all the time and how we used
[00:36:07] to have service where the deacons of the mothers
[00:36:10] or whoever it would be worship first until you
[00:36:13] were almost worn out and then like you said focus
[00:36:16] testimony serve like they were just parts of the
[00:36:19] church that existed back then or or elements that
[00:36:23] I thought we're very very effective and now you were
[00:36:25] on our schedule like our schedule in and out our
[00:36:27] schedule we have five services today and so we
[00:36:30] talk about not allowing the Holy Spirit to move a
[00:36:32] lot you know and just when you're speaking about
[00:36:34] deliverance like give people an opportunity to
[00:36:37] get free you know and in a space where people
[00:36:39] really like you said are tapped in for real
[00:36:42] like okay you in the right space.
[00:36:44] Let me let me lead you through this and how
[00:36:46] and show you what this looks like so I miss it
[00:36:49] you know so I appreciate you sharing all that listen
[00:36:53] doctor apostle.
[00:36:55] Vural we appreciate you coming through sharing wisdom
[00:36:59] today much needed we got to get you back on please
[00:37:04] tell the people how they can follow you how they
[00:37:06] can support all the movies and films you are
[00:37:08] part of and where they can find listen your next
[00:37:12] family next movie you in well.
[00:37:17] I mean anywhere under a possible for all that's
[00:37:20] V. E. R. Y. L. Howard that's my I. G.
[00:37:25] That's my face book it might even be my my space.
[00:37:30] You really going you going back.
[00:37:34] But it's my I. G.
[00:37:36] And or my company faith management and talent casting
[00:37:41] on what we're doing next is the Lord had told me
[00:37:43] that to establish a prayer for the mountain of
[00:37:46] entertainment because our TV you know that deposits
[00:37:51] into our spirit out there gates and what we hear
[00:37:54] what we see is very vital to help with to direct
[00:37:57] up had so we're doing a big prayer vigil with a
[00:38:00] plethora of movie producers and these are film
[00:38:05] producers from all over I didn't have to that
[00:38:07] are coming to have a theatrical release right
[00:38:09] now they've been on tour one of their faith
[00:38:11] based movies so they're going to share their journey
[00:38:14] in testimony as to how they got from point A to
[00:38:16] point B because it's not easy when I give you a dream
[00:38:20] but look like the doors have shut and so we're
[00:38:22] going to have that and then after we are allowed
[00:38:25] them to tell their journey with praying for them
[00:38:28] and then that following day this starts March the
[00:38:30] 22nd then the 23rd we're going to have a panel
[00:38:35] discussion and will be doing casting so at the
[00:38:38] panel discussion you know this will be held in
[00:38:40] the DMV that's the Metropolitan DC Merlin area
[00:38:45] you can you know get close and personal with these
[00:38:47] people and ask them anything you want to ask them
[00:38:49] if you're a scriptwriter if you're an actor if
[00:38:51] your producer a lot of money is made behind the
[00:38:54] scene a lot of people are standing because they
[00:38:56] want to be in front of camera but the real
[00:38:58] dollars be behind the scene so we're going to
[00:39:02] have directors or photographers there lighting
[00:39:04] all of that and they'll get to mesh with these
[00:39:07] film producers will have casting directors there
[00:39:10] that'll be looking for you for their next play
[00:39:12] their next film sitcom whatever and that's going
[00:39:16] to be the 23rd so just look me up under a possible
[00:39:19] world how we're because listen I'm over 50 and
[00:39:21] I'm in movies now and I'm doing TV stuff and
[00:39:25] I thought that dream was dead but God said I
[00:39:28] redeemed the time so that may be your situation
[00:39:31] as well and if he did it for me he can do
[00:39:33] it for you but sometimes you have put your
[00:39:35] face in the place and connect with the
[00:39:37] right people what God is sending you and invest
[00:39:40] in you so you can walk this thing out so I'm
[00:39:42] telling you come join us March the 22nd 23rd
[00:39:46] and it's going down in DMV it's just a plane
[00:39:49] ride a car drive a bus drive a train ride even
[00:39:53] a motorcycle drive we would love to have you
[00:39:56] and you might end up getting casted in something
[00:39:59] I love that.
[00:40:00] Come on now.
[00:40:01] I don't do nothing with it dice but you
[00:40:05] might want to get out for it.
[00:40:06] Come on now.
[00:40:07] I'm here for it.
[00:40:08] That's what I said.
[00:40:08] I was going to the floor.
[00:40:10] I am like let's go.
[00:40:12] Yeah, I'm not behind the scenes guy too as well.
[00:40:16] I don't want to be able to get behind the scenes.
[00:40:18] We keep trying to let him know that he's got
[00:40:20] he's got the whole packaging especially the voice
[00:40:22] to be cast in this stuff like this is what we do.
[00:40:26] So we're gonna big money.
[00:40:27] We're gonna pray for him.
[00:40:28] Yeah, yeah.
[00:40:29] Big money voice over some big money.
[00:40:31] You gotta have an agent to send the voice over is out.
[00:40:35] That is big money sink deals.
[00:40:37] See another thing sink deals for all your musicians.
[00:40:41] We just auditioned three weeks ago for another movie
[00:40:44] called conspirators by them get since film.
[00:40:46] They're the ones who did double cost and which
[00:40:48] I'm the casting director of and I'm actually in that TV
[00:40:51] series.
[00:40:52] They have a new TV come TV show coming out called
[00:40:56] conspirators.
[00:40:56] So we auditioned people about three weeks a month ago.
[00:40:59] We were looking for producers to match the music with the
[00:41:04] scene to be running think of stuff like that.
[00:41:07] And call me for that call me for that.
[00:41:10] That's listen.
[00:41:11] You I cure a music all day.
[00:41:14] Let's be very clear.
[00:41:15] I can't write you all day.
[00:41:17] I can do that in my sleep.
[00:41:20] That's money because certain beats go with certain shifts.
[00:41:24] Even Anthony showed up Anthony Brown came.
[00:41:27] Wow.
[00:41:27] What is brother to audition.
[00:41:29] He said listen they you know I might have some music.
[00:41:32] I want to to send for them to listen to.
[00:41:35] So that means every time it's played your stuff is getting
[00:41:40] published.
[00:41:40] I mean that's big money and the person is not necessarily in
[00:41:44] front of the camera.
[00:41:46] So people came out from that and guess what we had a
[00:41:49] slew of people to come audition from Cleveland.
[00:41:53] Wow.
[00:41:53] A slew drove down from Cleveland and they may not
[00:41:57] have gotten the biggest part but most of them got some part
[00:42:00] in there because the director was like if their efforts are
[00:42:04] to drive.
[00:42:05] Yeah from Cleveland.
[00:42:07] We don't find a way to use them.
[00:42:09] People fly from LA drive from New York Alabama Memphis they
[00:42:13] came from all over that opportunity because they believed
[00:42:16] in that dream inside them.
[00:42:17] That's good.
[00:42:18] So come with us March 22nd and 23rd.
[00:42:21] Thank you for coming by possible we're gonna get you
[00:42:23] back on real real soon.
[00:42:25] Listen much love and thank you to both of our guests today.
[00:42:31] Film producer Michael Chen as well as Dr.
[00:42:33] Apostle Vural Howard.
[00:42:35] Yeah, you follow them on all their social media platforms
[00:42:38] this may they do a lot.
[00:42:40] You talk about producers that film producers listen
[00:42:44] actors you know and Dr.
[00:42:46] Apostle Vural she doesn't it's not she doesn't do
[00:42:50] faith management.
[00:42:52] Listen she's an actress.
[00:42:53] She's a priest.
[00:42:54] I mean I'm a my goodness a preacher forgive me.
[00:42:58] She is a preacher.
[00:42:59] So yeah definitely follow both of them and yeah keep it
[00:43:03] locked we got a couple of more exclusive spiritual detaches
[00:43:07] coming with some different people in some different
[00:43:09] spaces.
[00:43:10] I know we you know we do Christian hip hop faith face
[00:43:12] hip hop.
[00:43:13] So of course we like to highlight those artists but
[00:43:15] we're gonna highlight a little bit of everybody on here
[00:43:17] shout out to all the athletes that's getting ready to
[00:43:20] come on here cuz I feel like this faith in sports report
[00:43:23] we're gonna go to a new level.
[00:43:24] Nice so we're gonna start interviewing some of these
[00:43:26] athletes and having them share a faith story you know
[00:43:29] I'm talking about a double dog day is my grandma saying
[00:43:33] a double dog days.
[00:43:35] Get these athletes on here now let's hear about they face
[00:43:37] journey how they put the ball in the hoop but they
[00:43:39] believe in God first.
[00:43:41] I want to know absolutely.
[00:43:44] All right y'all we love y'all we're gonna catch y'all
[00:43:46] tomorrow make sure y'all follow us on all social
[00:43:48] media platforms at the fix radio show as always remember
[00:43:51] to stay focused on turning your negative into a positive
[00:43:53] yeah Jesus Christ is always the answer.
[00:43:56] My advancement should always be the goal fix is in we
[00:43:59] out peace y'all.