697. Overcoming Doubt and Pursuing Purpose with Jered Sanders
Holy Culture RadioJune 03, 202401:02:32

697. Overcoming Doubt and Pursuing Purpose with Jered Sanders

In this episode, DJ Focus and Jered Sanders discuss the intricacies of Christian hip hop, discussing Jared's album "Talk to Me Nice" and the need for high-quality, competitive music in the genre. They explore the album's evolution from fun tracks to a deeper, more introspective collection, emphasizing the challenge of breaking stigmas surrounding Christian hip hop. The episode also touches on the broader state of Christian hip hop, the unity among artists, and the importance of mentorship and impact on the next generation. Also in this episode, our hosts are getting real about doubt and how to overcome it to pursue your purpose. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, DJ Focus and Jered Sanders discuss the intricacies of Christian hip hop, discussing Jared's album "Talk to Me Nice" and the need for high-quality, competitive music in the genre. They explore the album's evolution from fun tracks to a deeper, more introspective collection, emphasizing the challenge of breaking stigmas surrounding Christian hip hop. The episode also touches on the broader state of Christian hip hop, the unity among artists, and the importance of mentorship and impact on the next generation. Also in this episode, our hosts are getting real about doubt and how to overcome it to pursue your purpose.

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

[00:00:00] It's the stories, the journeys, the testimonies, it's the spiritual detox.

[00:00:05] Welcome back, welcome back DJ Focus, Dice Gamble.

[00:00:07] You tap back into the fix, your source of faith and fuse hip hop,

[00:00:10] learning being poetry is time for our spiritual detox.

[00:00:13] And yeah, y'all in for a treat today.

[00:00:16] We talk about, you know, are we in a good space when you talk about,

[00:00:20] you know, lyrical rhyme spitters in our space, man.

[00:00:24] And artists I got on right now, I promise you,

[00:00:28] you know, good thing about him.

[00:00:30] He might take a little break, but when he come back, he come back.

[00:00:34] Like, did you miss me?

[00:00:37] And I'm excited because yes, absolutely.

[00:00:40] The beautiful thing about our genre, our little small subgenre,

[00:00:43] we have a little bit of everything.

[00:00:45] But of course, when I can hear somebody who has the authentic hip hop sound,

[00:00:51] has cadence, has metaphors that can just really double entendres.

[00:00:55] It just really make you think like, dang, I had to pull something out

[00:00:58] and look a word up in the dictionary today.

[00:01:00] I actually learned something today at this artist.

[00:01:03] He does that with a lot of his bars and he makes it sound good

[00:01:07] over any type of beat.

[00:01:08] Listen, the one and only Jerry Sonders is joining us.

[00:01:10] What's up, bro?

[00:01:11] Hey man, what's good dog?

[00:01:12] No complaints, no complaints.

[00:01:14] Man, listen, where you been at, man?

[00:01:16] Listen, I say that lightly, man.

[00:01:20] You feel like you take these little breaks and then you come back

[00:01:24] just on fire.

[00:01:26] Like, come on, man.

[00:01:27] Talk to the people.

[00:01:27] Did you have to go sit with the Lord for a minute and just fast

[00:01:32] and pray and study and just kind of like reevaluate your whole situation?

[00:01:36] Why the break for a little bit?

[00:01:39] One part of it I would say was definitely just sitting down

[00:01:43] because I felt like that was time for God to kind of situate me

[00:01:48] to make sure I was in the right here space, make sure I was

[00:01:51] in the right heart space.

[00:01:52] But more than anything, I mean, if you for the Dragon Ball Z heads

[00:01:56] out there, I was in the Hyperbole Chamber, man.

[00:01:58] I was charging up the whole time.

[00:02:00] I think that's what that was just like they loaded and then

[00:02:04] it was finally time to say something.

[00:02:06] I feel like I got the green light at that point and now I'm back.

[00:02:10] What's that one thing that God kind of showed you when

[00:02:13] you little break?

[00:02:13] You know, because I know you in your word, you study

[00:02:16] and you know family you devoted like what's that one thing

[00:02:19] that maybe you didn't know that he kind of showed you in your

[00:02:22] little break?

[00:02:24] Yeah, God gave me in 2020, Stuart.

[00:02:27] Well, those were the two's words that he gave me Stuart.

[00:02:30] Well, and you know, I was thinking when I jumped out doing

[00:02:33] music full time, I was like, yeah, that means just make sure

[00:02:36] your books are straight and make sure you're marketing well

[00:02:39] and all that.

[00:02:40] He was like, nah, nah, like the gifts I gave you like the

[00:02:42] ones that are given without repentance like that looks like

[00:02:46] that looks like your wife.

[00:02:47] That looks like your children.

[00:02:48] That looks like the things that are placed in front of you.

[00:02:51] Stuart, those things well man.

[00:02:52] And so, um, yeah, definitely in that season I learned how to

[00:02:56] Stuart well be a better Stuart over what I got.

[00:03:00] Listen, thanks for sharing that and I want to salute you too

[00:03:03] as well.

[00:03:03] I think one another thing I saw you kind of just from a

[00:03:06] distant Stuart well and if you want to share a little

[00:03:08] bit man because I'm on my little fake journey, my fitness

[00:03:10] journey right now.

[00:03:11] You lost some weight and you made it, you know, you

[00:03:13] was going to the the Graham and showing us all these

[00:03:16] weight and I'm like, oh, here you go again.

[00:03:18] I ain't gonna lie.

[00:03:18] I had a little jealous spirit like Lord, why you keep

[00:03:21] taking 40 50 pounds off him and I keep looking in the

[00:03:24] mirror and ain't nothing moving.

[00:03:25] So just just just walk about that man.

[00:03:27] What what inspired you man to even really take your

[00:03:30] temple really serious and say, you know what?

[00:03:33] I want to get this weight off.

[00:03:35] Yeah, nah, to keep it simple man.

[00:03:37] I was sitting at the in the front level of the crib one

[00:03:41] day and I tried to bend down and tie my shoes and

[00:03:44] my stomach was in the way dog.

[00:03:46] Like I said, nah, like I can't I can't do this.

[00:03:49] You know, I'm sitting on the bed your back look all wide.

[00:03:52] I'm like, nah, now we got to something about this.

[00:03:55] I got these little babies in here.

[00:03:56] They not about to retire me.

[00:03:58] You're saying like I'm gonna make sure that I'm

[00:04:01] in the same athletic shape that they are.

[00:04:04] That's good.

[00:04:05] That's good.

[00:04:06] So man, come on talk about it man before we get

[00:04:08] into this project man.

[00:04:10] I know, you know, we got to talk about but I

[00:04:12] can have these conversations with you man.

[00:04:14] What do you think we had man?

[00:04:15] What do you think the state of the culture of Christian

[00:04:18] hip hop, faith based hip hop?

[00:04:20] What do you think we are?

[00:04:21] You know, I know we celebrated 50 years of hip hop last year.

[00:04:24] So you know with us being a part of hip hop history.

[00:04:28] What do you think we are?

[00:04:29] Um, I think we're probably the most versatile as

[00:04:35] it's faced that we've probably ever been like.

[00:04:37] I feel like there's a lot more but but I say CHH

[00:04:41] also mirrors secular hip hop to a degree and

[00:04:44] that like now there's not a lot of distinct sounds

[00:04:48] from the regions.

[00:04:49] You know what I'm saying?

[00:04:50] It's like three or four sounds.

[00:04:52] You know what I'm saying?

[00:04:53] And and that's what we're really getting even in

[00:04:54] the Christian hip hop space.

[00:04:56] I mean, the messaging is the same but I would say

[00:04:59] that sonically there's not as much regional diversity.

[00:05:05] It sounds a little bit consistent with people

[00:05:09] are getting better at what they do.

[00:05:12] The space is getting definitely incorporating new sounds

[00:05:17] that they didn't typically have.

[00:05:20] So I would say it's probably its most diverse but in

[00:05:22] that same vein, I would say that it sounds it

[00:05:24] mirrors the secular industry.

[00:05:26] So the question is if you are listening to secular

[00:05:29] hip hop in general, how does that make you feel

[00:05:34] to know that our genre sound similar?

[00:05:37] How does that make you feel?

[00:05:39] If you like the fact that from a competitive standpoint

[00:05:43] and sonic standpoint that we are on par, great.

[00:05:47] If you don't then, you know, maybe you got to stretch

[00:05:50] yourself a little bit more.

[00:05:53] Do you think we need to sound different or do you

[00:05:54] think we write where we need to be?

[00:05:56] Because I agree with you.

[00:05:58] I think, you know, of course, you know, everybody's

[00:06:00] pallid is subjective.

[00:06:01] I mean, you're going to like what you like.

[00:06:03] But I hear it from both sides.

[00:06:05] It feels like sometimes the faith based community is

[00:06:08] upset that, you know, to your point, we sound similar

[00:06:12] to, you know, all the artists out there.

[00:06:14] But I'm like, that's a good thing.

[00:06:16] Like I shout out to all the DJs that hit me up on

[00:06:20] the mainstream side.

[00:06:21] Like I have regular DJs hitting me up for your music.

[00:06:24] Like, man, my PD want to make sure I put some, you

[00:06:27] know, some type of inspirational track in every hour.

[00:06:30] Send me something.

[00:06:31] So like if it didn't sound up to par, I couldn't send

[00:06:34] them nothing.

[00:06:36] Valid.

[00:06:37] Yeah.

[00:06:37] So I mean, to your point, I would say that I think

[00:06:40] it's a good thing that is competitive because the

[00:06:42] reality is, you know, the message of God in general

[00:06:47] is competing consistently with everything that the

[00:06:50] world is digesting.

[00:06:51] So everything that the devil out here throwing any

[00:06:56] kind of ideologies, any kind of sonics, any kind

[00:06:59] of themes at people all the time.

[00:07:01] And so, you know, to be able to be competitive in a

[00:07:06] space that wasn't necessarily created for us, which

[00:07:10] is the industry side, like being competitive in that

[00:07:13] space, I think that's only to the glory of God.

[00:07:15] You know what I'm saying?

[00:07:16] I'm not, I would never say that I don't like where

[00:07:19] it is because if it is competitive, then we out

[00:07:22] here really fighting for souls now.

[00:07:23] You know what I'm saying?

[00:07:24] Like we're now creating an aroma that the world

[00:07:27] is like, what's that like?

[00:07:29] You know what I'm saying?

[00:07:29] Kind of like your DJ homies are saying.

[00:07:32] So I think that that's a good thing.

[00:07:33] I really do.

[00:07:34] What do you think we are in the body?

[00:07:36] I know I got to ask about the church for we get out

[00:07:39] and get to this music, you know, just in general.

[00:07:41] Do you think the church is now more accepting of

[00:07:45] Christian hip hop allowing for, you know, artists

[00:07:47] like yourself and everybody not just like the

[00:07:49] bigger names to come around and really embracing

[00:07:53] it's not just for the youth, but it's just

[00:07:55] it should be a part of ministry and a part of

[00:07:58] the church because, you know, we all go to, you

[00:08:00] know, Bible study and Sunday service just like

[00:08:03] everybody else.

[00:08:03] So I don't know why they've been trying to leave

[00:08:05] us out for so many years.

[00:08:07] I would say that I'm sure it's come a lot further

[00:08:12] than, you know, it was.

[00:08:14] I mean, I'm sure it's come a lot further than

[00:08:16] it used to be right?

[00:08:17] I'm pretty sure that a lot of the church isn't

[00:08:20] sitting up here thinking is devil worship just

[00:08:22] because it's Christian hip hop like so in that

[00:08:25] I would say that I'm pretty sure it's come

[00:08:27] far, but like you said very early in the process,

[00:08:30] like this is a this is a little like semi subgenre

[00:08:34] really.

[00:08:34] It's a niche audience is a niche population and

[00:08:37] so with that we just got to accept the fact that

[00:08:41] everything ain't for everybody.

[00:08:43] You know what I'm saying?

[00:08:43] There's going to be some churches that ain't

[00:08:45] never going to play Christian hip hop.

[00:08:46] Like it's going to be some that are super pro

[00:08:49] Christian hip hop and you know, I would say

[00:08:52] that go to the spaces that invite us go to

[00:08:55] the spaces where people are willing to listen

[00:08:57] and you know, I'm saying it because you're not

[00:08:59] going to be able to change people just by,

[00:09:02] you know, berating them with Christian hip hop

[00:09:04] when they got a level of ideals where they

[00:09:07] just not trying to hear that.

[00:09:08] So go where you go where you're called man.

[00:09:11] That's all I would say.

[00:09:13] Do you think, you know, when you talk about

[00:09:15] the unity amongst Christian hip hop artists,

[00:09:17] do you think that has gotten better?

[00:09:19] I know it has been some pockets to where

[00:09:21] it's kind of been like more just clickish.

[00:09:23] Not really everybody kind of, you know,

[00:09:25] building with each other and working with each other.

[00:09:27] I would say that one thing I'll give credit to

[00:09:29] the younger generation is the younger guys

[00:09:33] really do like rock with each other generally.

[00:09:36] Like at least the ones that are bubbling,

[00:09:37] you know, they tend to find each other

[00:09:39] and they tend to support each other.

[00:09:40] So in that regard, I think that that's

[00:09:42] really cool that, you know, they're

[00:09:45] willing to be more community based

[00:09:48] and not try to gatekeep each other and all

[00:09:50] of that because the reality is it

[00:09:52] it ain't too many in the space that could

[00:09:54] really gatekeep anybody.

[00:09:56] You know, like it ain't listen, we ain't got that many gates.

[00:09:59] So so in the same vein, I think

[00:10:04] the there was a working out that had to take place.

[00:10:08] You know what I'm saying?

[00:10:09] Probably over the last five to 10 years

[00:10:11] where the old G's had to start embracing

[00:10:13] the young people because they was coming

[00:10:16] outside regardless.

[00:10:18] You know what I'm saying?

[00:10:18] And they were shaped by what the old G's

[00:10:20] were doing.

[00:10:22] So the clash was going to be inevitable.

[00:10:24] Like change was going to be inevitable.

[00:10:26] Like the discomfort and adding new voices

[00:10:28] and new sounds is going to be inevitable.

[00:10:30] So I mean, that's just kind of something

[00:10:33] coming to territory.

[00:10:34] I think we've gotten to a point more

[00:10:35] so than others or more so than ever in

[00:10:38] the past where we really do see more agreement

[00:10:43] and unity.

[00:10:44] And if not, a lot of the OG's just

[00:10:46] kind of step back and you know,

[00:10:48] work in the shadows as opposed to,

[00:10:50] you know, publish publicly encouraging

[00:10:53] or publicly admonishing anybody that's on the

[00:10:55] come up.

[00:10:57] Have you had specifically some artists

[00:10:58] reached out to you?

[00:10:59] Don't try to be with you or just

[00:11:01] reach out to you for advice, prayer,

[00:11:04] just trying to build that relationship.

[00:11:06] What has that been like for you behind

[00:11:07] the scenes with you trying to,

[00:11:09] you know, pouring in their mentor

[00:11:10] or whatever it may be, pray with them.

[00:11:12] So yes, I have had a lot of young folks

[00:11:15] hit me up and

[00:11:18] you know, it's kind of weird to me

[00:11:20] to like be seen as like a mentor at all.

[00:11:22] You understand?

[00:11:23] Like I got little kids, you know what I'm

[00:11:25] thinking about making sure they brush

[00:11:27] their teeth every morning.

[00:11:29] So, you know, it's kind of it's always

[00:11:31] kind of a shock and a surprise when

[00:11:35] you know, young people reach out.

[00:11:37] But at the same time, like it's humbling

[00:11:41] and I try to give whatever knowledge

[00:11:43] I could give.

[00:11:44] Like I still think like low key,

[00:11:46] like I'm I have to accept and agree

[00:11:49] with the idea that like a fan, like

[00:11:52] to some people you're the you're an

[00:11:54] in-game person for them.

[00:11:56] Like you're a person that like some

[00:11:58] people got the cray as they person.

[00:12:01] Like some people they look at you like

[00:12:03] that, you understand?

[00:12:04] So the goal is to steward that well too.

[00:12:06] And so, um, yeah, man, I'm not a

[00:12:09] hater.

[00:12:09] I'm not no gatekeeper.

[00:12:11] I just I think one thing though

[00:12:12] that I will be is genuine.

[00:12:14] Like if I if I say, I think it's fire

[00:12:17] and I share it is because I genuinely do

[00:12:19] and if I don't, you know, I mean,

[00:12:21] know how feelings I'll give you whatever

[00:12:23] insight I can to kind of help you,

[00:12:25] you know, improve or push you in the

[00:12:27] direction you need to go.

[00:12:28] Yeah, that's fire.

[00:12:29] Shouts out to the gatekeepers too as well.

[00:12:30] Keep holding us back much love.

[00:12:32] Listen, DJ focus.

[00:12:33] We got to go to a quick break.

[00:12:34] Don't touch that down.

[00:12:35] I'm coming right back with more from

[00:12:37] Jerry Saunders.

[00:12:37] You tapped into the fix.

[00:12:39] You know, the fix is in.

[00:12:40] Welcome back.

[00:12:41] Welcome back.

[00:12:41] DJ focus.

[00:12:42] You tap back into the fix.

[00:12:43] Still got our brother, Jerry Saunders

[00:12:46] on with us and we talking about a little

[00:12:48] bit of everything.

[00:12:49] We got to definitely talk about this

[00:12:51] project.

[00:12:51] Talk to me nice.

[00:12:53] So come on in first, Jerry.

[00:12:55] Walk us through the inspiration for

[00:12:56] this project.

[00:12:57] 12 tracks.

[00:12:59] I think you gave us a little something

[00:13:00] different on this, but I want to hear

[00:13:02] your thoughts.

[00:13:03] Walk us through your mindset when

[00:13:04] you first started recording tracks

[00:13:07] for this walk us through your creative

[00:13:08] process for making this in the lab.

[00:13:11] You know, it's going to be mad funny.

[00:13:13] Like what's crazy is I was working on

[00:13:16] a completely separate project.

[00:13:18] I wanted to make a bunch of fun

[00:13:19] records and you know, just be outside

[00:13:21] and just rap really good.

[00:13:23] And what ended up happening is that

[00:13:26] it didn't go down like that.

[00:13:27] So the album was made before this.

[00:13:32] You know what I'm saying?

[00:13:33] And ironically, you know, that's

[00:13:35] where all the heavy stuff, the

[00:13:36] introspective stuff came out.

[00:13:38] And so once that happened, like I

[00:13:40] felt free to just rap, you know, and

[00:13:42] normally the way that I've kind of

[00:13:44] built and created to get to project

[00:13:46] creation is like I'll do the mix

[00:13:48] tape stuff to like get my muscle

[00:13:51] memory up to make the albums.

[00:13:53] And this time it was in reverse.

[00:13:56] It was make the album first and

[00:13:58] then do the mix tape vibes.

[00:14:00] And so that ending of itself was

[00:14:02] kind of a unique experience for me.

[00:14:05] But then in the inverse, like

[00:14:07] talk to me nice.

[00:14:09] It's it's layer.

[00:14:10] You know what I'm saying?

[00:14:10] Like talk to me nice and one aspect

[00:14:12] is a cool way to try to talk about

[00:14:15] delivering the gospel.

[00:14:17] Another way of saying it is like

[00:14:19] we're living in a competitive

[00:14:20] landscape where you know, there's

[00:14:24] the enemy is out here making

[00:14:26] everything seem really palatable

[00:14:28] and cool.

[00:14:30] So I wanted to create something that

[00:14:32] was competitive so that line for

[00:14:35] line you couldn't draw this distinction

[00:14:38] outside of the messaging that

[00:14:40] somebody was a Christian or not.

[00:14:42] Like I wanted it to be like, yo,

[00:14:44] that's nice period.

[00:14:46] Like let's tear down that wall of

[00:14:48] oh, such and such as this and such

[00:14:50] and such as a Christian blank fill

[00:14:52] in the blank.

[00:14:53] So, um, you know, more than anything,

[00:14:55] that's kind of where the records

[00:14:56] came from.

[00:14:57] I wanted to have fun.

[00:14:58] I wanted to talk about some real

[00:14:59] experiences and I wanted to,

[00:15:01] you know, execute it really well

[00:15:03] through rhyme.

[00:15:04] Listen, stay right there because

[00:15:06] you just said something.

[00:15:07] You want to break down that wall

[00:15:09] of the stigma of thinking, you know,

[00:15:11] Christian hip hop artists can't

[00:15:13] just make good quality music.

[00:15:14] Why was that so important to you?

[00:15:16] What specifically were you really

[00:15:19] trying to convey when you

[00:15:21] when you were delivering this?

[00:15:22] Like why was that so important for

[00:15:24] you to make that be known?

[00:15:26] Well, because I feel like there's

[00:15:28] an urgency that, you know,

[00:15:30] because now I got babies, right?

[00:15:32] And so there's an urgency that I

[00:15:33] feel at times where like I genuinely

[00:15:36] feel like the voice and the messengers

[00:15:38] of God are being drowned out

[00:15:42] because there's so much wicked

[00:15:44] and there's so much and it's like

[00:15:47] the way to how do you make something

[00:15:49] that's convincing?

[00:15:50] How do you make something

[00:15:51] that's appealing?

[00:15:52] You make it competitive first.

[00:15:55] Like so that when people hear it

[00:15:58] next to something that they're

[00:15:59] consistently ingesting, they're like,

[00:16:01] oh, this is so this is kind of fire.

[00:16:04] You're like when you can create

[00:16:05] that opportunity because really

[00:16:08] we're just trying to be persuasive

[00:16:09] in creating the opportunity to be

[00:16:12] a bridge so that somebody

[00:16:14] could hear more, learn more,

[00:16:15] see more and be exposed to more

[00:16:19] as it pertains to, you know,

[00:16:20] Christian content because I know

[00:16:23] that you turn on the television,

[00:16:25] you throw down your social media

[00:16:26] platform. All you see in is wickedness.

[00:16:28] You know what I'm saying?

[00:16:29] Like that's just what it is.

[00:16:30] So there is a burden to a degree

[00:16:34] that I have now where I need

[00:16:36] something that my my kids

[00:16:37] can listen to where they don't feel

[00:16:39] like they missing out.

[00:16:41] Like if they don't listen to the world,

[00:16:43] like what do we introduce to them?

[00:16:45] What do we supply them

[00:16:47] that makes them feel like

[00:16:48] they're not missing something

[00:16:50] like from a quality standpoint

[00:16:52] and from a good music standpoint

[00:16:54] in general?

[00:16:56] That's good.

[00:16:56] All right, let's come on.

[00:16:57] Let's let's talk about a few of these

[00:16:59] songs break down some of the

[00:17:00] inspiration behind a few of these songs.

[00:17:01] So first I got to ask you.

[00:17:04] Okay, I got to know you can only pick one.

[00:17:07] You're going prime time M.J.

[00:17:09] A prime time Kobe.

[00:17:10] I need to hear this from you.

[00:17:11] I need to hear it.

[00:17:13] All right.

[00:17:13] So there's the teacher and the student.

[00:17:15] Like I mean prime time M.J.

[00:17:18] Is is the teacher man.

[00:17:19] You understand like Cobb is is the closest

[00:17:22] to M.J.

[00:17:23] But bro M.J.

[00:17:25] Is M.J.

[00:17:25] Man like I'm not I'm good.

[00:17:27] I'm good because because listen,

[00:17:29] I hardly ever hear you say that and you always use

[00:17:32] Kobe.

[00:17:33] So I'm starting with that.

[00:17:34] Come on break down Kobe's back.

[00:17:35] Not Kobe is my favorite.

[00:17:37] Kobe is my favorite player.

[00:17:38] You know, I ain't never going to front on cold.

[00:17:41] You know what I'm saying?

[00:17:41] Like I grew up on cold.

[00:17:43] But Kobe's back was also like an opportunity for me

[00:17:48] in my time of silence.

[00:17:50] Like I had a mixtape called called Black Friday 3,

[00:17:54] which is a reality right?

[00:17:56] And there came out right after the Lakers won the championship.

[00:17:59] They last championship and so you know, they had these

[00:18:03] jerseys though that was like the Black Lakers jerseys.

[00:18:06] Right.

[00:18:07] And I was like inspired to get back outside and rap.

[00:18:10] So for me from May 22nd of last year into December 22nd

[00:18:15] of last year, like after four years of silence,

[00:18:19] like I wrote 65 records.

[00:18:21] So like wrote and recorded 65.

[00:18:23] So I was like, oh, we back outside like Kobe's back.

[00:18:27] You know what I'm saying?

[00:18:27] Cause one of the things that he was definitely recognized

[00:18:30] and known for was the ethic, like the work ethic, the grind,

[00:18:34] like that maniacal pursuit of excellence.

[00:18:36] And so like when I finally was able to, you know, really

[00:18:40] get back outside again and start making music and being

[00:18:43] like, oh, I'm lacing these J's again.

[00:18:46] Here's saying like now Kobe's back.

[00:18:48] So really that's what that was.

[00:18:51] One of my favorite joints.

[00:18:52] You started off with that morning Divo.

[00:18:53] Come on and break that down, man.

[00:18:56] And the production on this thing was ridiculous.

[00:18:58] I don't know who produced it, but for you to switch

[00:19:00] that thing up, man, this was something different.

[00:19:03] Talk about inspiration behind that track.

[00:19:05] Yeah, not morning Divo was just like I wanted the project

[00:19:10] to sound like an experience.

[00:19:11] Like I wanted morning Divo to feel like what you would

[00:19:14] wake up to.

[00:19:15] You know what I'm saying?

[00:19:15] Like, ah, the birds chirping.

[00:19:18] You know what I'm saying?

[00:19:19] Sun coming over the horizon.

[00:19:21] You know what I'm saying?

[00:19:22] And then, you know, you finally that water splash

[00:19:25] and hit your face.

[00:19:26] And that's when you get to be here and then switch up.

[00:19:28] So morning Divo was also like the beginning of

[00:19:31] re reintroducing myself because like in general, we as artists

[00:19:36] got opportunities with every record that we do to reintroduce

[00:19:39] ourselves to a new person.

[00:19:41] Like it's not always, we can't always assume that the

[00:19:44] same old people is listening to what we do.

[00:19:47] So I wanted to make sure that that introduction was like,

[00:19:51] yeah, we really, we not playing like I wanted whoever came

[00:19:55] on board now to be like, oh, okay.

[00:19:59] All right.

[00:19:59] Yeah, like this, this, this dude's not playing around.

[00:20:02] And so generally morning Divo is just that also that

[00:20:07] time that I have, you know, really with God and my

[00:20:10] and my reflection and I get a chance to just lay it all

[00:20:13] out on the table like God, I thank you for.

[00:20:16] You know, waking me up to see another day.

[00:20:18] Thanks for new mercies.

[00:20:19] Thanks for new grace.

[00:20:21] These are some of the things that I've been going through

[00:20:24] not that he on already know, but to just go ahead and put

[00:20:28] that out there on paper.

[00:20:30] Yeah, man, you did that.

[00:20:31] You executed that boy well.

[00:20:33] So this next one, man, I was like, how many blessing

[00:20:37] blessings songs do Jerry got?

[00:20:40] I promise you you got to have about four to five

[00:20:42] of these songs.

[00:20:43] So just just that had to be on your heart or you featured

[00:20:47] on some with some other people with songs called blessings

[00:20:49] or blessings.

[00:20:50] So just break down that song too as well because you

[00:20:52] are mission mission is the feature on it and yeah, definitely

[00:20:56] y'all took care of business on that talk about the

[00:20:58] inspiration behind blessing.

[00:21:00] Oh man, just keep it a being that journey was like

[00:21:02] years I had that I had that beef for like years.

[00:21:05] But in my time of silence, like I had no idea what

[00:21:10] I was going to do with it because like I said, the

[00:21:12] way that I had planned the next album to be was I was

[00:21:15] going to do a double album.

[00:21:17] One of them was going to be like all singles and one of

[00:21:20] them was going to be like intro detective stuff.

[00:21:22] Like that was what it was going to be.

[00:21:24] It was going to lay out like that and that record just

[00:21:27] didn't fit where the album ended up going.

[00:21:31] It just didn't fit anymore.

[00:21:33] And so I decided to be like, oh, I was like, we just

[00:21:39] gonna go with it.

[00:21:40] Like I honestly and nobody ever believed it.

[00:21:44] Like I didn't write that at all.

[00:21:45] Like I didn't write it down.

[00:21:47] Like I just recorded it like I was like, we just going

[00:21:49] right line for line.

[00:21:52] I didn't put nothing down on paper like and it came out

[00:21:56] really dope because I stopped thinking like I just wrapped

[00:22:02] you know, and that to me was was a lot of fun and

[00:22:05] Mitch came through you know, saying and I like

[00:22:07] featuring people on records that they want to be featured

[00:22:10] on because then they're going to put their best foot forward

[00:22:14] and I feel like when me and Mitch come together like he

[00:22:17] know don't play and I know don't play because we're

[00:22:21] going to try to make something this dope.

[00:22:23] Is that a challenge at times?

[00:22:25] You said something about you know, you just wrapped

[00:22:27] on this song blessing is at a challenge of times.

[00:22:29] You know sometimes you in your head too much over

[00:22:31] thinking what you want to put out there in a song.

[00:22:35] Well, I would say it was a contrast.

[00:22:37] So what I say is that for the album that I was you know

[00:22:42] preparing there was a lot of thoughtfulness taken like

[00:22:48] there was a lot of intro strength that there was a

[00:22:49] lot of regular conversation that was being had in a

[00:22:53] way that I've never communicated with people before.

[00:22:56] And so when I started to you know really write

[00:23:00] things down and just go there in the uncomfortable

[00:23:03] spaces it was interesting because it took a lot of emotion

[00:23:07] whereas blessing I really just got to rap like I didn't

[00:23:12] have to you know feel anything.

[00:23:15] I was just like all right let's just go because the vibe

[00:23:18] was there.

[00:23:19] I turned the music up in the headphones and we just went

[00:23:21] for it.

[00:23:22] And this listen I feel like this is the Kingdom version

[00:23:27] of G unit or something this backup track with you say

[00:23:30] line we okay to own and I ain't I ain't know what

[00:23:32] to do with this I say man listen if y'all think we we

[00:23:35] soft over here listen put this thing on to get this in

[00:23:38] your spirit you might question if they save or not.

[00:23:44] Yeah nah man.

[00:23:46] So backup was like it was a joke at first like to keep

[00:23:51] it a whole being with you so like the gritty CHH crew

[00:23:55] you know to see for Katona and you know why P and

[00:24:00] commission all of those like I feel like they be playing

[00:24:04] with me because like when they be put may records together

[00:24:07] like they don't never call me like they don't call me like

[00:24:11] and I'd be like oh y'all think I'm playing like okay

[00:24:14] so watch this because there was a part of me that was like

[00:24:18] why didn't get called for 99 like why I didn't get no

[00:24:21] call nobody called me at all.

[00:24:25] And it was like nah bro that's that's not true that's

[00:24:27] not true you're not nah you salute to you you dope but

[00:24:31] this is something that we got I said I watch like and that's

[00:24:36] how the record came together.

[00:24:38] It came it came together just like that too as well I promise

[00:24:41] you when you listen to it it's like it felt personal it

[00:24:44] felt like yeah listen.

[00:24:49] When it's all said man what do you want the people

[00:24:51] to take away from this project man talk to me nice

[00:24:54] what do you want the people to take away from it.

[00:24:57] I mean this is this is you know how he was building how

[00:25:00] Marvel was building up to the Avengers in game.

[00:25:04] Absolutely so this is the build-up today like we not

[00:25:07] there yet like when when we finally get to the to the

[00:25:12] other side of this because it should be for projects

[00:25:15] this year like this is this is the first step.

[00:25:20] You dropping you dropping four projects that's the go

[00:25:23] go listen what is going on with y'all I don't know if you

[00:25:26] familiar did you see Ken Jones Ken Jones just dropped a quad

[00:25:30] quadrille G 61 songs in one day.

[00:25:34] I'm trying to figure out.

[00:25:37] Yeah yeah look it up for yourself.

[00:25:39] Yeah Ken Jones literally about a week ago dropped the

[00:25:42] quadrille G and yeah he dropped four projects in one 61

[00:25:46] songs and now you saying you dropping forward projects

[00:25:49] with throughout the year still that in itself is a problem

[00:25:52] so what do you feel like you got to do it like that.

[00:25:56] I mean what was what's up.

[00:25:58] Because I'll say this and you know I'm saying I I I don't

[00:26:03] think I'm gonna be doing this much longer dog.

[00:26:06] You know I'm not longer dog I ain't gonna cap.

[00:26:10] And it's not because you know I'm saying it's not

[00:26:12] because anything negative I just like I there's other

[00:26:16] things I want to do it's other things I'm interested

[00:26:18] in I'm I've accepted the role as youth pastor man so like

[00:26:23] grass.

[00:26:24] Yeah appreciate it like the affections of my heart for

[00:26:27] hip hop just ain't really where they work and it just

[00:26:31] so happened know that you know this was an opportunity

[00:26:34] for me to kind of create and be back outside but what I

[00:26:40] want people to take from it is that I never took

[00:26:43] shorts like I never took shorts I never gave anything

[00:26:48] less than 100% I never was was committed to do anything

[00:26:53] but whatever it is with excellence and so like this

[00:26:57] is the first step like I'm telling you though.

[00:27:00] This is nothing in comparison man like and I love I love

[00:27:04] talk to me nice I really do it's an amazing project

[00:27:08] but we got more like we're gonna grow up together

[00:27:12] like we're gonna grow up together.

[00:27:14] Well definitely man I just want to give you some advice

[00:27:16] if it wasn't on your radar man make some sync stuff

[00:27:19] because that way if you do give it up you can get them

[00:27:22] syncs places is still can live on in some of these

[00:27:25] series and movies and stuff.

[00:27:27] 10 years from now when you use like you know what yeah I made

[00:27:30] that record to instill is still vibing.

[00:27:32] Yeah it's a whole vibe right there so yeah just make sure

[00:27:34] you're doing that and I know yeah shots like I say again

[00:27:37] congrats me and you faster you're gonna still create

[00:27:40] something in local you know your local ministry with them.

[00:27:42] Yeah I don't yeah I doubt I doubt that I'm a hang up.

[00:27:46] I'm not putting the jersey in the rafters you know what I'm

[00:27:48] saying but but I feel like I'm getting like I got gray hair

[00:27:52] in my bed man I didn't have that four years ago.

[00:27:56] Like he's nothing but surround bus around 55 just dropped

[00:27:59] that just dropped a project bro it means nothing.

[00:28:02] I feel it I'm gonna be the wise old sage you know

[00:28:05] what I'm saying like I know how to use a sword when

[00:28:07] I need to and saying but but I'm trying to usher in

[00:28:11] the new people and you know really create a platform

[00:28:15] because you know surprise surprise like this is my first

[00:28:18] project under my own imprint hope is though music.

[00:28:22] So so really the goal is to start to you know develop

[00:28:25] a strategy and foster more talent to come along so I

[00:28:28] can help push them and build a platform for them.

[00:28:30] So yeah I'm trying to it ain't really ministry in my

[00:28:33] opinion till you give it away.

[00:28:36] So so at this point in time now we do a ministry

[00:28:39] you know I'm saying like now this is not just music

[00:28:42] business no more.

[00:28:43] Let's appreciate you.

[00:28:45] Jared man tell the people how to connect with you

[00:28:46] following you and all your social media platforms

[00:28:48] and where they can go stream a new project.

[00:28:51] Yeah man at Jared Sanders pretty much everywhere J.

[00:28:54] E. R. E. D. S. A. N. D. E. R. S. A. K. A. Mr.

[00:28:57] Hope is dope I mean y'all can find me anywhere.

[00:29:00] I'm not hard to find I communicate with my followers

[00:29:03] and my listeners and yeah maybe you're gonna catch

[00:29:07] a joke one of these days maybe you can catch a dad joke

[00:29:10] maybe you'll catch some some food criticism or some music

[00:29:13] critiques but even way you don't get the real me so yeah

[00:29:17] find me anywhere.

[00:29:18] Tap in with your boy real conversations from real

[00:29:22] imperfect people in pursuit of a perfect God let's jump

[00:29:26] into today's real talk topic.

[00:29:29] Welcome back welcome back DJ focus dice gamble you

[00:29:31] tap back into the fix your source of faith diffuse

[00:29:34] hip hop R&B and poetry.

[00:29:36] It's time to get really these streets dice and you got one

[00:29:39] form today you got one for now sometimes you get really

[00:29:43] really real right here you get really these streets so come

[00:29:46] on talk to the people.

[00:29:47] Well you know we're going to talk about a you know the

[00:29:50] seed of doubt like where are you doubting who sold the

[00:29:53] seed and is it a is it a legit concern.

[00:29:57] You know we have a lot of people who refuse to

[00:29:58] revisit an opportunity or situation or something that

[00:30:02] happened in their life or maybe a vision or goal.

[00:30:04] Got a set before them because somebody else is so in a seed

[00:30:08] of doubt maybe they can't do it you shouldn't do it why

[00:30:11] would you do that you're too old you don't know you

[00:30:15] don't have enough money like so I just I just wanted to

[00:30:18] talk about that today because I truly feel like some people

[00:30:22] are limiting themselves or being limited.

[00:30:25] You know

[00:30:27] simply because there was a seat of doubt that was

[00:30:29] sewn and when that seat of doubt is sewn how do you

[00:30:32] actually uprooted.

[00:30:34] You know so yeah I mean if you're in the circle of people

[00:30:38] who are doubters one in one man plants or plants that seed

[00:30:42] you know somebody else comes along and waters that seed

[00:30:45] by saying yeah I wouldn't do it either well then you're

[00:30:47] going to have the fruit of doubt.

[00:30:50] Because that's it's biblical and that's the one thing

[00:30:53] about biblical universal law it's the same whether it's

[00:30:59] in a positive what would it whether it's for a positive

[00:31:01] reason or whether it's for negative reason.

[00:31:04] So that's why yeah it's like hey a man can plant a seed in

[00:31:08] you somebody else can come and agree with that and then

[00:31:10] now there will be fruit starting to grow if you let it.

[00:31:13] So I'm just saying I think we need to check our fruit you

[00:31:15] know they have fruit inspectors in real world in real

[00:31:18] time focus like when the fruit comes off a tree or

[00:31:21] when it gets picked before it gets shipped out or sent

[00:31:23] to a grocery store.

[00:31:25] There's someone who actually inspects the fruit.

[00:31:28] I don't know if we inspect our fruit we're out here

[00:31:31] fruiting all day but what kind of fruit is it you know so I

[00:31:35] just I wanted to bring that up because you know turns out

[00:31:39] you can't eat every fruit in real and real life and in the

[00:31:43] spirit realm.

[00:31:44] So we need to know like hey is that a legitimate seed that

[00:31:49] I should be dealing with right now you know like is that

[00:31:51] something that I want to fruit you know so yeah I

[00:31:55] wanted to chat about it and I don't know if you've ever

[00:31:57] had any real life examples of this where somebody you had

[00:31:59] a suggestion and somebody else was like nah man I really

[00:32:02] wouldn't do that.

[00:32:03] I don't know if I do that.

[00:32:05] I don't think that's smart how how how you gonna make money

[00:32:07] off that what does that look like like you know I'm saying

[00:32:09] that it's like okay but if God told me to go do a B and C

[00:32:14] and you over here constantly so in the seed of doubt you

[00:32:18] know how do I deal with that.

[00:32:21] Well thank you this is a great topic.

[00:32:24] Okay now this is a great topic that seriously I thank you

[00:32:26] for bringing it up and yes so first.

[00:32:29] When you when you talked about doubt and I just want to

[00:32:32] backtrack a little bit at the first thing I was talking to

[00:32:33] my mind was you know everybody you know when you think

[00:32:36] about doubting it's you being uncertain if you should make

[00:32:39] a move and not absolutely so when you're uncertain of

[00:32:42] course you want to go to some wise counselor should be

[00:32:45] wise counselor should be people you trust to you know

[00:32:48] get some thoughts on it you know running bounce it off

[00:32:51] of them and see if this idea is a good idea so let's

[00:32:53] be very clear absolutely one is up to speed right now

[00:32:58] the fix radio show.

[00:32:59] Okay first when I first said I was going to radio you know

[00:33:04] how many people told me you can't do radio you don't speak

[00:33:09] well enough to do radio money and there's no money in

[00:33:14] Christian radio that was multiple times that you talking

[00:33:18] about playing nobody gonna listen to that corny music and

[00:33:22] I'm talking about multiple people at least 10 or better

[00:33:25] absolutely doubt it and then what happened.

[00:33:28] No, no, no, so I'm just saying absolutely if I would

[00:33:31] listen to them if I wouldn't if I would have stayed in doubt

[00:33:34] and then listen to them and not play because that's what

[00:33:37] I first of the first thing I did I said Lord why do you

[00:33:40] keep putting this on my mind why do you keep putting

[00:33:42] this in my spirit for me to do this like that like

[00:33:45] that's the first thing I identify so I started praying

[00:33:47] I started studying again everybody knows the backstory

[00:33:50] I catch all up in case your first introduction my wife

[00:33:53] and I wanted to get out of debt so I can I pick

[00:33:55] the second job up and when I pick the second job up

[00:33:58] the supervisor at my second job that I was working at

[00:34:01] he actually had a little radio station that he was starting

[00:34:05] and he was building up and he was looking for somebody

[00:34:07] that was familiar with Christian hip hop that was

[00:34:10] DJ was doing it so before I even say yes to him

[00:34:15] this is where the dollars was like nah man you wasting

[00:34:17] your don't waste your time doing that like nobody

[00:34:20] nobody's gonna invest in that nobody's gonna advertise

[00:34:23] with that nobody gonna listen to that music you like

[00:34:25] yeah you got you got a little cray and a few little

[00:34:27] artists but you know it's not enough music to go around

[00:34:31] to what the masses are going to really like it so

[00:34:33] absolutely this this that's what I said this one right

[00:34:36] here is great because I have multiple experiences

[00:34:39] but I want to let everybody know listen I promise

[00:34:43] you if I would have believed the doubters we wouldn't

[00:34:46] be right here today that's good that's good no

[00:34:50] that I appreciate you sharing that no that's what

[00:34:52] I'm saying like there are a lot of people out here

[00:34:54] that are missing the same opportunity that we have

[00:34:57] right now because they actually listened to somebody

[00:35:01] who was a doubter you know they weren't a fater

[00:35:04] they were a doubter so it's like and they and you

[00:35:07] know like this is why it's important to have community

[00:35:09] we talk about it all the time you need a good circle

[00:35:11] around you people who trust God people who will go pray

[00:35:14] you know people who will intercede on your behalf

[00:35:16] people who will partner with you differently about

[00:35:18] the plan that God has for your life and so some people

[00:35:22] and I just I got to call this out there are so many

[00:35:25] people right now who the reason why they hate on other

[00:35:29] people as soon as they see people on TV or they hear

[00:35:31] them on the radio or they see them at our award show

[00:35:34] it's because they stopped doing what they was doing

[00:35:36] because they fail for the seat of doubt they

[00:35:38] they wanted to do it they had that dream at one point

[00:35:42] you know how many people and you know because you

[00:35:43] always at the bar which I hear this all the time

[00:35:45] at the salon and even in my family oh I could have

[00:35:48] been such and such I was whoop-de-whoop and I'm like

[00:35:50] okay I hear you talk about the past all the time

[00:35:53] you're gonna be in a nursing home talking about the

[00:35:55] past why don't you go do something you know I'm

[00:35:58] saying no bussing move yeah like cuz all this

[00:36:02] I you know coulda shoulda woulda you know it's

[00:36:04] like okay coulda shoulda woulda what does God

[00:36:06] think about your coulda shoulda woulda because

[00:36:08] honestly it's not about me and it ain't about

[00:36:10] everybody else but if it's on your heart and the

[00:36:12] Lord said move shame on you okay cuz you're gonna

[00:36:16] have to answer to God face-to-face about that

[00:36:18] you know so it's like the seat of doubt who do you

[00:36:21] believe you know and and it's it's insane to me

[00:36:25] like I I don't know I've never really thought about

[00:36:28] not doing and LJ brought this up the other day

[00:36:31] shout out to my husband we were talking about age

[00:36:34] and he just had a birthday in January you

[00:36:36] know shout out to all January birthdays one

[00:36:38] scan and he said I just don't even see you age

[00:36:42] because you're always doing something

[00:36:45] and I was like but I was telling him like I don't

[00:36:48] I could care less about age I care more about

[00:36:50] what God said do so if this might my birthday

[00:36:54] comes around it just come around you know

[00:36:55] praise God but I'm so busy trying to do what

[00:36:59] God said do I don't even calculate my age

[00:37:03] to what I do it makes no sense to me but

[00:37:05] some people would calculate their age are you

[00:37:08] too old to still be doing music oh I used

[00:37:10] to y'all you you know you're almost a half

[00:37:13] century you know I'm saying whatever like

[00:37:14] you why you want to be you know doing why

[00:37:16] you want to be a DJ why you want you know

[00:37:18] and these people they be down they doubt

[00:37:20] what God's plan is in the earth and so

[00:37:23] it's important for us to stay tapped and

[00:37:24] I'm glad you talked about prayer but

[00:37:26] yeah even with relationships like some

[00:37:28] people would refuse to get married again

[00:37:29] why because they first marriage failed

[00:37:32] so so so what so you telling me you

[00:37:38] may have opportunity to actually have a

[00:37:40] legacy have a family you know change

[00:37:44] change affect change in your community

[00:37:46] if you would actually maybe marry the

[00:37:48] man or woman of your dreams but you won't

[00:37:49] do it because the first person you

[00:37:50] married when you was 19 it didn't work out

[00:37:53] self-doubt nobody else yeah man I

[00:37:57] wouldn't do it because marriage it's

[00:37:59] like don't get stuck don't get stuck

[00:38:01] make sure you hear the voice of God

[00:38:03] when it comes to your life and the

[00:38:06] I think that was the lady grandmother

[00:38:07] and a black panther I love it because

[00:38:09] she was 85 years old she pursued her dream

[00:38:11] her her grandson because of her grandson

[00:38:13] he kept telling me you always want to be

[00:38:14] actually actress grandma you're gonna be

[00:38:16] actress is your opportunity won't you

[00:38:18] go try out try it out and she made she

[00:38:19] landed in a row yeah because it was

[00:38:21] like okay it's my time let me go be

[00:38:23] moved on what I move down right now

[00:38:25] so I just some people plant that seat

[00:38:28] of doubt and I remember growing up I

[00:38:30] wanted to bring this up and I'll

[00:38:31] come into a close people would say

[00:38:35] and this was in my particular family

[00:38:37] don't trust women and I remember I heard

[00:38:39] that a lot you know and I'm thinking

[00:38:41] don't trust women why cuz they'll take

[00:38:43] your man to try to take your man like

[00:38:44] this is the thing that women actually

[00:38:46] tell other women which is absolutely

[00:38:48] absurd to me when you're growing up I

[00:38:50] get it if you've had a situation but

[00:38:52] that seat was sewn so young I had all

[00:38:56] male relationships probably until I had

[00:39:00] my son like male friends you know I

[00:39:03] mean like women at bay and then I

[00:39:06] realized when I had a baby I was like

[00:39:07] wait a minute I need to talk to some women

[00:39:09] cuz I don't know what I'm doing here

[00:39:10] like I'm gonna have to have you know

[00:39:13] some female relationships to help me

[00:39:15] with this and I just remember I was so

[00:39:19] angry that I fell for that seat of

[00:39:21] doubt that other women other hurt

[00:39:23] broken broken toxic women had

[00:39:27] instilled in me you don't need girl

[00:39:29] relationships you know don't do that

[00:39:31] cuz you know they be too you know

[00:39:33] but that was their whole life

[00:39:35] experience their life experience was

[00:39:37] focused on the land yeah they passed

[00:39:39] the brand so it's like in their tragedy

[00:39:41] so I'm accepting their their doubt

[00:39:43] their doubt seat of no women were

[00:39:46] designed to have relationships with

[00:39:48] women you have a mother like every

[00:39:50] person on the earth was designed to

[00:39:52] have relationship with a woman God

[00:39:53] trust a woman obviously the most turns

[00:39:56] out so it's like why would you fall

[00:39:58] for that idea that women cannot be

[00:40:00] trusted you know women are trusted

[00:40:01] with every child that comes here so

[00:40:03] it's like put some respect on women's

[00:40:05] name so I but I hated I hated that it

[00:40:07] took me 25 years but I got to point

[00:40:10] where I was like man I will never tell

[00:40:12] a male to have not have male

[00:40:13] relationships what in the world you

[00:40:15] understand that's the first thing I

[00:40:16] told my sons all of hey you need to be

[00:40:19] around some man so many don't say like

[00:40:20] going about the kitchen you know

[00:40:22] something like yeah you're gonna

[00:40:24] have to build relationships with you

[00:40:28] know people that look like you think

[00:40:29] like you talk like you need

[00:40:30] examples and role models but I'm

[00:40:32] just saying like the things we say or

[00:40:34] the things other people have said these

[00:40:36] doubtful seeds because they've been hurt

[00:40:38] or it didn't go their way or their plan

[00:40:41] failed like don't let people sell that

[00:40:42] seed into your life you'd be like

[00:40:44] listen I respect what you're saying but

[00:40:46] I trust and believe God has shown me

[00:40:47] this this is the path I'm taking if

[00:40:49] you don't mind praying for me in this

[00:40:50] you know like I would greatly

[00:40:52] appreciate it you know what I'm saying

[00:40:53] but this is my path you know I'm sorry

[00:40:55] that happened to you I'm sorry maybe

[00:40:58] maybe you weren't able to have kids I'm

[00:40:59] sorry for that but I'm gonna keep

[00:41:01] trying I don't care if I am 50 shout out

[00:41:02] to my friend Sandy Savage her and her

[00:41:04] husband they're 51 years old with a whole

[00:41:06] baby because they refuse to give up

[00:41:08] you never like yeah I hear y'all maybe

[00:41:10] we won't have a baby in our 20s maybe

[00:41:12] you won't have a baby in our 30s maybe

[00:41:13] we won't have a baby in our 40s but

[00:41:15] I have a little niece and her name is

[00:41:17] JoJo and yeah and her mom was 51 so

[00:41:20] I'm saying you can't let people sell

[00:41:23] these the seeds of doubt in your life

[00:41:25] if God has a plan for you you know

[00:41:27] that he's showing you that vision

[00:41:29] and here's the thing if it's for you it

[00:41:31] never goes away if God said you need to

[00:41:33] be doing this and never goes it will

[00:41:35] haunt you the thing won't you like God

[00:41:38] I know I'm supposed to do that I know

[00:41:40] I'm supposed to do that because it's

[00:41:42] God's idea for your life so it's like

[00:41:44] trust God more I just wanted to say

[00:41:47] that because we have a lot of people

[00:41:48] out here that hurt people especially

[00:41:49] now everybody got a podcast everybody

[00:41:51] online trying to give somebody let me

[00:41:54] tell you you know blah blah blah

[00:41:56] everybody's advice is not good advice

[00:41:59] you hear me everybody's advice is not

[00:42:00] good advice and we have a lot of people

[00:42:03] online right now they just following

[00:42:04] people listening to people and I'm like

[00:42:06] your life gonna look just like theirs

[00:42:08] so if they're not living a godly life

[00:42:10] and it ain't the life you really won't

[00:42:13] I'm gonna need you to stop listening

[00:42:15] to all day little doubtful seeds of

[00:42:16] advice about relationships and God

[00:42:18] in church and the church people do this

[00:42:20] too y'all done been hurt at one

[00:42:21] church now you're online talking about

[00:42:23] the pastor now your whole audience

[00:42:25] 25,000 people is listening to your

[00:42:27] hurt story about this one pastor and

[00:42:29] knowing good and well every church

[00:42:31] across America ain't like the one you

[00:42:32] was at so it's like stop sowing that

[00:42:35] seed of contingency like you will have

[00:42:38] to answer God for that and I just

[00:42:40] want to share that like your experience

[00:42:42] is not everybody else's experience and

[00:42:45] stop trying to get this pity party

[00:42:46] going online or in front of social media

[00:42:49] because you was hurt so bad and you

[00:42:51] won't now you want to be the victim

[00:42:53] go be a victim but don't sow that

[00:42:55] seed of doubt in the people that are

[00:42:57] in the people around you or the people

[00:42:59] that are following you other people

[00:43:00] that need to hear a positive message

[00:43:03] you know just say hey it didn't work

[00:43:04] for me but maybe you try baby I tried

[00:43:06] to start my barbecue shop you know

[00:43:08] it didn't go very well but guess

[00:43:10] what I'm here for you if you're

[00:43:11] gonna start yours and I'll be there

[00:43:12] in the kitchen trying to help you

[00:43:14] out when you ready to start yours

[00:43:15] because maybe this is my opportunity

[00:43:17] to support you because you can do it

[00:43:20] better than you know I had a great

[00:43:21] idea but maybe now you can expound

[00:43:23] upon it and let's partner together

[00:43:25] like we got to learn to not do that

[00:43:27] guys they right there no no

[00:43:29] say we're gonna come back we're gonna

[00:43:31] pick up right back on that and I agree

[00:43:33] yeah don't stop all the people out

[00:43:35] there with y'all past experiences and

[00:43:37] y'all trying to be put y'all fear

[00:43:39] of failure on other people that's

[00:43:42] not cool I'm doing that listen we

[00:43:44] gotta go to a break we coming right

[00:43:46] back with more keep it locked you tune

[00:43:47] into the fix and the fix is in

[00:43:50] welcome back welcome back DJ focus

[00:43:51] dice gambler you tap into the fix

[00:43:53] your source of faith infused hip hop

[00:43:55] R&B and poetry and we're just talking

[00:43:57] about it today where are you doubting

[00:44:00] you know who sold that seed into you

[00:44:03] and is it true across the board

[00:44:05] just because maybe they didn't

[00:44:06] succeed that you ain't go succeed

[00:44:09] too as well and are we believing

[00:44:10] that and should we believe that

[00:44:11] in a listen dice you said a lot

[00:44:13] but I think we gotta we gotta go back

[00:44:15] and let's talk about the root cause

[00:44:17] I think identifying the root cause

[00:44:20] of doubt is critical when you talk

[00:44:23] about you know your personal growth

[00:44:25] and understanding where you are in this

[00:44:28] so I know for me absolutely

[00:44:32] I'm always making sure that something

[00:44:35] I always say something I'm always

[00:44:37] making sure I'm trying to stand

[00:44:38] to not probably Mr. Mark

[00:44:39] sometimes I ain't perfect but

[00:44:41] I try to make sure I hear from

[00:44:42] God I have to go back to that

[00:44:43] hearing from God because when

[00:44:45] everybody else's doubt and I want

[00:44:46] to say I want to hear what Jesus

[00:44:48] got to say about it I do

[00:44:49] I want to hear what he has to say

[00:44:51] see if he's involved in it

[00:44:52] so I know for me anytime I'm

[00:44:54] in a doubt mode and it's a big

[00:44:57] decision I want to make dice

[00:44:58] it's a big move I want to make

[00:45:00] shout out to all our fasters

[00:45:02] I go on the fast oh yeah my wife

[00:45:04] no and she knows when I'm

[00:45:06] in that mode where I'm fasting

[00:45:08] you know two or three times

[00:45:09] within a month because I want

[00:45:10] to make sure I'm like all right

[00:45:12] I'm gonna do it one more time

[00:45:13] gotta believe I heard from you

[00:45:14] but I want to make sure I heard

[00:45:15] from you because this move is

[00:45:17] critical this next one I give

[00:45:19] you example everybody knows

[00:45:23] you know I worked a great

[00:45:24] government job for a long time

[00:45:26] and listen look at it for my

[00:45:28] household very well very well

[00:45:30] let's be very clear very well

[00:45:31] let's be very very well so

[00:45:33] no no no I'm just saying all

[00:45:35] these things they say about

[00:45:36] government employees majority

[00:45:38] of it's true when you talk

[00:45:39] about benefits and salaries and

[00:45:41] we even though if you go to

[00:45:42] the service right now there's

[00:45:43] a lot of great benefits going

[00:45:44] on the Air Force Army Navy you

[00:45:46] name it so yes when when I

[00:45:49] when I finally submitted to God

[00:45:51] because God had already told me

[00:45:52] to walk off my job probably two

[00:45:53] years before I did it so I'm

[00:45:55] gonna catch up over game and

[00:45:57] here's where I was in doubt

[00:45:59] on my own this is me personally

[00:46:01] this ain't nobody else I'm

[00:46:03] like Lord I make this great

[00:46:05] salary it's already guaranteed

[00:46:09] let's be very clear so so

[00:46:10] so I'm already in my mind like

[00:46:12] okay you know I'm a man you

[00:46:13] know I have to take care of my

[00:46:14] household this money is already

[00:46:15] guaranteed the money that I am

[00:46:19] looking to make and the personal

[00:46:21] business the radio show

[00:46:23] mm-hmm

[00:46:23] hey nothing guaranteed over here

[00:46:29] in this space I'm not gonna hold

[00:46:31] y'all the truth this is a fake

[00:46:34] journey make sure you talk to God

[00:46:35] before you do it because I

[00:46:37] wouldn't tell nobody just to bust

[00:46:38] a move like this because it got

[00:46:40] to be a fake move so again

[00:46:42] I'm doubting let's be very clear

[00:46:44] Lord you sure like I'm straight

[00:46:47] like man we good savers good

[00:46:50] they do whatever we want to do

[00:46:51] with like we you sure and he

[00:46:54] kept telling me yeah I need you

[00:46:56] to get in purpose all the way

[00:46:58] 100% I need you to be able to

[00:47:00] push this music push this

[00:47:02] ministry 100% so yes I doubted

[00:47:06] myself for two years dice

[00:47:07] before I finally pulled the

[00:47:08] call and said you know what

[00:47:09] Lord I ain't gonna keep running

[00:47:11] no more and he kept showing me

[00:47:12] over and over again what you

[00:47:14] waiting on I'm waiting on you

[00:47:16] yeah it won't go to the place

[00:47:18] you wanted to go because you

[00:47:20] need to be in other spaces

[00:47:21] and this job is taking your

[00:47:23] time from you being in these

[00:47:25] spaces what you gonna do

[00:47:27] yeah so he kept showing me

[00:47:29] and showing me till I

[00:47:30] submitted and to listen to

[00:47:32] God be glory it's I've had

[00:47:33] my ups and downs I ain't

[00:47:34] gonna be one and one saying

[00:47:35] it was all just beautiful as

[00:47:37] soon as I transition know

[00:47:38] I prepared shots out to me

[00:47:40] my wife and myself we

[00:47:42] prepared we make sure we put

[00:47:43] some savings we make sure

[00:47:44] we pay some things off so that

[00:47:45] way as we we build our base

[00:47:48] up and we build the money

[00:47:49] up over here on this side

[00:47:50] we were prepared for it but

[00:47:52] again I doubted myself

[00:47:53] two years died for I really

[00:47:54] bust that move and say

[00:47:55] you know what I'm gonna do

[00:47:56] it full time I mean it's a

[00:47:59] process you know I'm

[00:48:01] glad you shared that story

[00:48:02] because people need to know

[00:48:03] it might not be easy for you

[00:48:06] you know it might be

[00:48:08] and definitely depending on

[00:48:09] who you are like you know

[00:48:10] from your perspective you

[00:48:12] definitely who as men being

[00:48:14] the head of households and

[00:48:15] we know you was making big bank

[00:48:16] Joe good government job so it's

[00:48:19] like that's that's serious

[00:48:22] you know I'm saying that is

[00:48:23] super serious you know

[00:48:24] and for me on the other end

[00:48:26] like you know thank God my

[00:48:28] husband is out here hustling

[00:48:29] you know so it would be less

[00:48:31] pressure for me you know

[00:48:32] but more pressure for you

[00:48:33] so I'm sitting here like

[00:48:35] bro we always had the

[00:48:36] pressure believe me all the

[00:48:37] men yeah y'all got

[00:48:39] a beautiful way of letting us

[00:48:41] know it to as well

[00:48:41] I saw to the real why

[00:48:43] what you gonna do

[00:48:45] what you gonna do

[00:48:47] what you gonna do

[00:48:49] what you gonna do

[00:48:50] yeah

[00:48:51] man what you gonna do

[00:48:53] right

[00:48:54] right

[00:48:55] right okay don't play like

[00:48:59] we will throw that it's so funny

[00:49:00] I told somebody other day

[00:49:01] I was like it's so easy being

[00:49:02] married because you know

[00:49:03] your husband got to carry it

[00:49:04] at all like you could make

[00:49:05] the worst mistake and it fall

[00:49:06] back on him like literally

[00:49:07] falls back on him physically

[00:49:09] and financially and spiritually

[00:49:10] so it's kind of like get married

[00:49:12] so you protect it done

[00:49:13] and you can go out here

[00:49:14] and pretty much do what you

[00:49:15] want to do and then he got

[00:49:15] deal with it like oh Lord

[00:49:17] this woman you gave me

[00:49:18] that's what happens to Adam said

[00:49:20] it was like this woman

[00:49:21] you gave me

[00:49:22] I was like Adam what you doing

[00:49:24] he was like this is so funny

[00:49:26] I need to go back in Genesis

[00:49:27] and read the whole deal

[00:49:28] with Eve and the tree

[00:49:30] and the snake because

[00:49:32] when God asked Adam

[00:49:33] what's going on

[00:49:35] this woman you gave me

[00:49:38] totally okay

[00:49:40] he's like man

[00:49:42] she's a mess

[00:49:43] but um no this is

[00:49:45] this is something I just

[00:49:46] wanted to bring it up

[00:49:47] because to your point

[00:49:49] you could doubt like you said

[00:49:50] you were the one and I hate

[00:49:52] to say you were doubting God

[00:49:53] but I think you were just

[00:49:54] trying to check the boxes

[00:49:55] make sure everything's gonna

[00:49:56] be okay you're a planner

[00:49:57] and I know that you know

[00:49:58] I'm saying and you may have

[00:49:59] been you may have been

[00:50:00] out with bricks dice

[00:50:01] I was like this

[00:50:02] I'm gonna be real y'all

[00:50:04] like listen

[00:50:04] I was sweating bricks

[00:50:05] and Lord knows I was

[00:50:07] sweating bricks Lord

[00:50:08] I say listen Lord

[00:50:10] you better make this work

[00:50:11] I told my faith

[00:50:12] because you know

[00:50:13] I go back on the streets

[00:50:14] and then you ain't gonna be

[00:50:15] able to use me at all for a while

[00:50:16] I'm gonna be in time out

[00:50:18] because y'all gonna be like

[00:50:18] what's focus over there

[00:50:19] to listen

[00:50:21] the license about to get cut off

[00:50:22] what you want me to

[00:50:22] to win it too

[00:50:24] which breath

[00:50:26] it gotta be paid today

[00:50:28] today

[00:50:29] that's gonna be turned off

[00:50:30] right

[00:50:31] no I mean you know

[00:50:32] it's just I want to encourage everybody today

[00:50:34] who has have been doubting

[00:50:36] themselves you know like

[00:50:38] get yourself off of social media

[00:50:39] spend time with God

[00:50:41] you know get

[00:50:42] get really

[00:50:43] get started on your plan

[00:50:44] and remember the goal that

[00:50:46] you know the Lord has put in your heart

[00:50:48] remember the things you've accomplished

[00:50:49] and we are

[00:50:50] we are always our best

[00:50:52] and worst critics at times

[00:50:54] you know so you have to know like

[00:50:56] okay am I supposed to do this

[00:50:57] I want to achieve this

[00:50:58] you know

[00:50:59] I'm gonna achieve this

[00:51:00] I'm gonna tell myself every day

[00:51:01] I'm gonna do what God asked me to do

[00:51:03] regardless of

[00:51:04] who I'm talking to

[00:51:05] and here's the thing

[00:51:05] some you need to shut up

[00:51:07] about telling people stuff

[00:51:08] because

[00:51:10] everybody can't

[00:51:12] take

[00:51:13] the fact that God is blessing you

[00:51:15] hard to believe it

[00:51:16] hard to believe it

[00:51:17] and I'm talking about

[00:51:18] they can be saved

[00:51:19] and not saved

[00:51:20] everybody cannot handle

[00:51:23] the vision God has given you

[00:51:25] that's why God gave it to

[00:51:27] you

[00:51:28] is

[00:51:28] because everybody can't

[00:51:30] handle it

[00:51:31] and then you'll know

[00:51:31] who's a part of your team

[00:51:32] or who's supposed to be

[00:51:33] part of your crew

[00:51:34] as they come along

[00:51:35] because their

[00:51:35] their vision will align

[00:51:36] with the vision God gave you

[00:51:38] but

[00:51:39] I'm trying to tell you

[00:51:40] everybody can't take

[00:51:42] you telling them

[00:51:43] what's next in your life

[00:51:44] so that's why they'll

[00:51:45] so that seed of doubt

[00:51:46] because

[00:51:47] they don't want to lose you

[00:51:48] I got friends right now

[00:51:50] constantly trying to pull me back

[00:51:51] to do stuff

[00:51:52] I don't have time to do

[00:51:54] because I'm like

[00:51:54] they don't see

[00:51:55] that God has a different vision

[00:51:56] for my life

[00:51:57] so he's so busy

[00:51:59] yes

[00:52:00] I am busy

[00:52:01] but it's not that I don't love you

[00:52:02] and that I can't come hang out

[00:52:03] when it's

[00:52:04] when you know

[00:52:04] when I'm

[00:52:04] when I'm back

[00:52:05] where I am in town

[00:52:06] or whatever

[00:52:07] it's just

[00:52:07] I have to complete the vision

[00:52:09] God has given me

[00:52:10] so

[00:52:10] you know

[00:52:11] and some people

[00:52:12] will so a seed of doubt

[00:52:13] in that

[00:52:13] in that relationship

[00:52:14] and say

[00:52:14] well

[00:52:15] you

[00:52:15] you just

[00:52:16] you know

[00:52:16] you ain't trying to be

[00:52:16] a good friend

[00:52:17] or you think you

[00:52:17] all that

[00:52:18] are you too good

[00:52:18] you know

[00:52:19] and it's like

[00:52:20] sometimes you go

[00:52:21] have to say

[00:52:21] you know what

[00:52:22] I am too good

[00:52:23] to be hanging around

[00:52:24] people who

[00:52:24] don't mean me

[00:52:25] any good

[00:52:26] I am too good

[00:52:27] to be hanging around

[00:52:28] with people who have

[00:52:29] that old mind set

[00:52:30] I am too good

[00:52:31] to be hanging around

[00:52:32] people still walking

[00:52:32] and sin

[00:52:33] and doing everything

[00:52:34] simple

[00:52:35] and they are far

[00:52:35] from the cross

[00:52:36] yes

[00:52:36] I am too good

[00:52:37] like you're

[00:52:38] going to have to start

[00:52:38] changing your

[00:52:39] speech

[00:52:40] and affirming

[00:52:41] what God said

[00:52:42] and God told me

[00:52:43] to go here

[00:52:43] and that's

[00:52:44] where I'm going

[00:52:45] and so some of us

[00:52:46] are going to have

[00:52:46] to leave

[00:52:48] some friends

[00:52:49] some of us

[00:52:49] are going to have

[00:52:50] to leave family

[00:52:51] to pursue our

[00:52:52] goals

[00:52:52] so we don't compromise

[00:52:53] on the journey

[00:52:55] and the purpose

[00:52:56] that God

[00:52:57] has set

[00:52:57] before us

[00:52:58] so

[00:52:59] I say spend time

[00:53:00] in your words

[00:53:00] spend time

[00:53:01] in prayer

[00:53:02] and everything else

[00:53:02] is going to be okay

[00:53:03] and here's the deal

[00:53:04] if people

[00:53:04] you

[00:53:05] if you're afraid

[00:53:06] to lose people

[00:53:07] they wouldn't

[00:53:07] with you

[00:53:07] in the first place

[00:53:08] Nope

[00:53:09] they wouldn't

[00:53:11] and a lot

[00:53:12] of y'all need

[00:53:12] no

[00:53:13] a lot of y'all

[00:53:13] need to

[00:53:14] reevaluate

[00:53:15] some of your friends

[00:53:16] you think

[00:53:16] your friends anyway

[00:53:17] because they

[00:53:18] are trying to hold

[00:53:19] you back

[00:53:19] because they're

[00:53:20] walking

[00:53:20] in the spirit

[00:53:20] of fear

[00:53:21] listen

[00:53:21] go put some

[00:53:21] Bible on

[00:53:22] before we get

[00:53:22] out of here

[00:53:23] Romans 8 and 15

[00:53:25] for you

[00:53:25] to not receive

[00:53:26] the spirit of slavery

[00:53:27] to fall

[00:53:27] back into fear

[00:53:28] but you have

[00:53:29] received the spirit

[00:53:30] of adoption

[00:53:31] and to be

[00:53:32] a new creation

[00:53:33] in

[00:53:33] in Christ

[00:53:35] and by whom

[00:53:35] we cry out

[00:53:36] to

[00:53:36] Abba Father

[00:53:38] Hebrews 11

[00:53:39] and 1

[00:53:40] also says

[00:53:41] now faith

[00:53:41] is the assurance

[00:53:42] of things

[00:53:42] hope for

[00:53:43] the confidence

[00:53:44] of things

[00:53:45] not seen

[00:53:46] and that's exactly

[00:53:46] those

[00:53:47] just a couple

[00:53:47] of scriptures

[00:53:48] of course

[00:53:48] there's

[00:53:48] 20

[00:53:49] scriptures

[00:53:50] on fear

[00:53:50] and doubting

[00:53:51] just

[00:53:52] get back

[00:53:52] in the Bible

[00:53:53] make sure

[00:53:54] you have

[00:53:54] that relationship

[00:53:55] you need

[00:53:55] to have

[00:53:56] what your Lord and savi

[00:53:57] because I promise

[00:53:58] you He'll never

[00:53:59] leave you

[00:53:59] and never

[00:53:59] forsake you

[00:54:00] so

[00:54:00] there you go

[00:54:01] tell you to move

[00:54:02] yeah

[00:54:02] move

[00:54:03] yeah

[00:54:03] that's all I got

[00:54:04] to say

[00:54:05] trust the

[00:54:05] process

[00:54:06] and

[00:54:07] everything

[00:54:07] will be good

[00:54:07] listen

[00:54:08] that's

[00:54:08] that's our

[00:54:09] real real

[00:54:09] for the day

[00:54:10] our real

[00:54:10] talk

[00:54:10] conversation

[00:54:11] we got to go

[00:54:12] to a break

[00:54:12] we coming right

[00:54:13] back for more

[00:54:13] keep it locked

[00:54:14] you tune into

[00:54:15] the fix

[00:54:15] and the fix is in

[00:54:16] that's it

[00:54:17] for the tiptoe

[00:54:18] Tuesday

[00:54:18] that's it

[00:54:19] for us

[00:54:19] today

[00:54:19] nice

[00:54:20] and

[00:54:20] that was enough

[00:54:22] huh

[00:54:25] that down now

[00:54:25] that was enough

[00:54:26] hopefully

[00:54:27] that changed somebody's life

[00:54:28] hopefully somebody

[00:54:28] will stop

[00:54:29] doubting

[00:54:30] hopefully somebody

[00:54:30] are running to the

[00:54:31] blessings that

[00:54:32] God has promised him

[00:54:33] and just

[00:54:33] you know

[00:54:33] don't look back

[00:54:34] don't turn into a

[00:54:35] pillar of salt

[00:54:35] you know

[00:54:36] like

[00:54:36] lots wife

[00:54:37] just from doubting

[00:54:39] don't do it

[00:54:41] just keep on

[00:54:41] walking forward

[00:54:42] blessing is over there

[00:54:43] forward

[00:54:44] don't doubt

[00:54:45] so trust God

[00:54:46] just keep

[00:54:47] trusting God

[00:54:48] yeah

[00:54:49] please crush

[00:54:49] God

[00:54:50] please

[00:54:50] trust God

[00:54:51] yeah

[00:54:52] and a lot

[00:54:52] for God to be

[00:54:53] God

[00:54:53] because

[00:54:54] I think

[00:54:54] a lot of people

[00:54:55] they're getting

[00:54:55] their heads

[00:54:56] dicing

[00:54:56] and they start

[00:54:58] second guess

[00:54:58] and they self

[00:54:59] and

[00:55:00] you brought up

[00:55:01] some great tips

[00:55:01] on

[00:55:02] just walking

[00:55:02] by faith

[00:55:03] and just

[00:55:03] allowing for God

[00:55:04] to be God

[00:55:05] and

[00:55:05] keeping God

[00:55:06] involved in

[00:55:06] because the enemy

[00:55:07] want to keep us

[00:55:08] in doubt

[00:55:08] the enemy

[00:55:08] want to keep us

[00:55:09] behind

[00:55:10] the enemy

[00:55:10] don't want to see

[00:55:11] you shine

[00:55:11] now

[00:55:12] you know

[00:55:13] he don't control

[00:55:13] nothing

[00:55:13] he just

[00:55:14] suggests things

[00:55:15] to keep

[00:55:15] you in a

[00:55:16] sunken place

[00:55:16] so

[00:55:17] let's not

[00:55:18] stay

[00:55:19] in the sunken place

[00:55:20] let's

[00:55:21] make sure

[00:55:21] we continue

[00:55:22] to

[00:55:23] shine

[00:55:23] for God

[00:55:24] so

[00:55:25] yeah

[00:55:26] we're going

[00:55:27] just

[00:55:27] doubting

[00:55:28] and

[00:55:28] getting better

[00:55:29] I'll talk to everybody

[00:55:30] who want to get better

[00:55:31] this year

[00:55:31] there you go

[00:55:33] there you go

[00:55:33] my brother

[00:55:35] Jared Saunders

[00:55:35] if you have not

[00:55:36] checked out

[00:55:36] his latest project

[00:55:38] it's in

[00:55:39] you can go stream

[00:55:40] that thing

[00:55:40] right now

[00:55:41] talk to me

[00:55:42] nice

[00:55:42] and

[00:55:44] as he's already said

[00:55:45] he got a

[00:55:45] two or

[00:55:45] three more

[00:55:46] projects

[00:55:46] he's dropping

[00:55:47] before the

[00:55:48] end of this year

[00:55:49] dice

[00:55:49] so

[00:55:49] he just

[00:55:50] he just

[00:55:51] about to put

[00:55:51] project

[00:55:52] at the project

[00:55:52] out

[00:55:53] and he

[00:55:53] came

[00:55:54] retiring

[00:55:54] dice

[00:55:55] I was like

[00:55:56] what do you mean?

[00:55:56] You retire

[00:55:57] he's like

[00:55:57] I

[00:55:58] I think my season

[00:55:59] for wrapping

[00:55:59] is about to be up

[00:56:00] after this year

[00:56:01] so

[00:56:02] everybody pray

[00:56:02] for Jared Saunders

[00:56:03] y'all

[00:56:03] we don't need

[00:56:04] him

[00:56:04] retired

[00:56:04] we need him

[00:56:05] we need

[00:56:06] we need

[00:56:06] we need the

[00:56:07] we need the good ones

[00:56:08] that can still

[00:56:08] rap for real

[00:56:09] uh

[00:56:09] still

[00:56:10] rap for real

[00:56:10] it's

[00:56:11] on

[00:56:11] I'm just

[00:56:12] said

[00:56:13] dice

[00:56:13] you know

[00:56:13] yeah

[00:56:14] we pray

[00:56:14] for

[00:56:14] cause

[00:56:15] we

[00:56:16] you know

[00:56:16] when you

[00:56:16] get a rapper

[00:56:17] like

[00:56:17] you know

[00:56:17] as good as Jared

[00:56:18] we want to

[00:56:19] make sure

[00:56:19] he wraps

[00:56:19] but I know

[00:56:20] he's moved on

[00:56:20] to

[00:56:21] something new

[00:56:21] God has

[00:56:22] elevated him

[00:56:23] I know he's doing

[00:56:24] some youth

[00:56:24] pastoring

[00:56:25] and

[00:56:26] working with a lot

[00:56:26] of the

[00:56:27] teams at his

[00:56:27] local church

[00:56:28] so

[00:56:29] I'm excited for

[00:56:30] him and his wife

[00:56:30] and what they're

[00:56:31] doing with

[00:56:31] the you

[00:56:32] but

[00:56:33] yet

[00:56:33] Jared

[00:56:33] we need you

[00:56:34] still to make

[00:56:34] some bars

[00:56:35] too as well

[00:56:35] so

[00:56:36] we pray

[00:56:36] for

[00:56:37] a

[00:56:37] great schedule

[00:56:38] that'll

[00:56:39] keep you

[00:56:40] making bars

[00:56:41] and also

[00:56:41] preaching to

[00:56:42] the little kids

[00:56:42] and taking care

[00:56:43] your family

[00:56:43] and everything

[00:56:44] that's

[00:56:45] that's true

[00:56:46] that's true

[00:56:46] present

[00:56:47] all right

[00:56:48] we got

[00:56:48] to get out of here

[00:56:49] we're going to see

[00:56:49] y'all tomorrow

[00:56:50] same time

[00:56:50] same place

[00:56:51] we got

[00:56:52] exclusive tomorrow

[00:56:53] the spiritual detox

[00:56:55] it features

[00:56:55] super talented

[00:56:57] yeah

[00:56:57] you're going to have

[00:56:57] just tuning

[00:56:58] I ain't telling you

[00:56:59] you thought he's

[00:56:59] gonna get

[00:57:00] you're not

[00:57:00] gonna get

[00:57:01] they

[00:57:01] ain't gonna get

[00:57:02] that work

[00:57:03] y'all just need

[00:57:03] to tap in

[00:57:04] listen

[00:57:05] she's a

[00:57:05] entrepreneur

[00:57:06] she's a CEO

[00:57:07] she's a

[00:57:08] listen

[00:57:09] a

[00:57:09] pastor

[00:57:10] she's a director

[00:57:11] she's an actress

[00:57:12] she do a little

[00:57:12] bit of everything

[00:57:13] so

[00:57:13] tap in the mall

[00:57:14] for exclusive

[00:57:15] spiritual detox

[00:57:16] y'all

[00:57:16] dice

[00:57:16] gonna take

[00:57:17] y'all to church

[00:57:17] with that real

[00:57:18] talk topic

[00:57:19] and

[00:57:20] much much more

[00:57:21] as always

[00:57:22] remember

[00:57:23] negative to a positive

[00:57:25] Jesus Christ

[00:57:25] is always the answer

[00:57:27] Kingdom advancement

[00:57:28] should always be the

[00:57:28] go

[00:57:29] the fix is in

[00:57:30] we out

[00:57:31] peace y'all