679. Is Hip-Hop's Impact on the Grammy Awards Changing the Music Industry?

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[00:01:47] so, you know the Grammys, uh

[00:01:49] You know 66 annual Grammy

[00:01:52] award show kicked off and

[00:01:55] You know as some unique

[00:01:58] Awards and situations going on in here, right? And you know sometime the Grammys an award show won't that

[00:02:05] stir up different culture like whether it's how somebody dressed whether it's how somebody's

[00:02:11] speaking rapping

[00:02:13] major movements I think in

[00:02:15] In shifts of culture or affirmation of as for culture sometimes jump off

[00:02:20] And in the in a war show you can probably list off several different award shows where

[00:02:26] These these groups came out and did this

[00:02:29] You know 50th anniversary hip-hop all these different

[00:02:34] Scenarios artists who you haven't seen first this first that and so this award show

[00:02:40] Was similar in some ways. We just kind of want to comment on it and comment on it in

[00:02:46] respect to culture and respect to

[00:02:49] Just faith in God and faith, you know real talk about hip-hop the church and sit on the streets and just

[00:02:55] how how

[00:02:57] We as believers

[00:03:00] Can engage in this in a way that's that that's real

[00:03:04] and how it affects it then and one of the things that was there was a

[00:03:09] Jay-Z and Jay-Z we love Jay-Z man. I mean great artist. We've gone to his concerts man

[00:03:14] He's an artist for wrongful. You know I'm saying

[00:03:17] And

[00:03:19] You know

[00:03:20] We all went to the concert when he came to Chicago man

[00:03:23] It was it was for dick Jay-Z on stage what three hours just buy himself man by our self. Yes

[00:03:29] By itself man a diesel wasn't even a great

[00:03:33] In the one bike great the band might have been underneath the stage or something

[00:03:38] I don't even know where the band was but it was crazy

[00:03:42] But he he won the Grammys dr. Dre global impact award and

[00:03:47] I'd never heard of that award before in some regards, but I'm grateful that he gave it to Jay being able to have

[00:03:54] His legendary status kind of firm even more so but you know

[00:03:58] You know Jay's MCs are gonna keep it real gonna keep it real like like we try to do in this show

[00:04:03] We're gonna listen to what he said and come back and talk about it over right there

[00:04:09] Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much

[00:04:13] I

[00:04:15] Used to say this is a sippy cup with blue blues growing up now. She doesn't take sippy cup and she has her own Grammys

[00:04:26] First of all

[00:04:28] Thanks to

[00:04:29] Dr. Draven city analysis something up. There he is Andre young. Thank you, sir

[00:04:35] All the doors that you open, you know shoulders that we can be

[00:04:39] Rop stars see you on the roller stop

[00:04:42] Obviously there's run DMC with the leathers and the arrow Smith or when you came out West

[00:04:46] You took it to a whole new level put us on covers rolly stone put us around the world

[00:04:51] You will snoop all these job did all the records y'all broke. So thank you for this

[00:04:56] Um

[00:04:57] on it on it to accept it on it to accept it and

[00:05:01] Thank you to the black music collective for all the work that you guys do

[00:05:05] scholarships for young creatives and

[00:05:08] Hopefully

[00:05:10] No, I'm adding to you know what you guys are doing out here. Obviously

[00:05:15] it's

[00:05:16] It's great to have an award

[00:05:19] to such a icon

[00:05:20] How far we've come

[00:05:22] with Will Smith and them

[00:05:25] Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince winning a first Grammy in 89 and

[00:05:29] boycotting because it wasn't televised and then

[00:05:34] It went to like a hotel and watched the Grammys. I didn't even understand what that was in a great boycott

[00:05:45] With yeah, but then 98 I took a page out of it

[00:05:49] both I was nominated for the best rap album and

[00:05:52] DMX had dropped two albums that year they both were number one shout out the DMX and

[00:05:57] He wasn't nominated at all. So I boycott it and I watched the Grammys

[00:06:03] I'm just saying we just we want y'all to get it right. We love y'all

[00:06:09] We love y'all we love y'all we want y'all to get it right at least get it close to right and

[00:06:14] Obviously subjective y'all got to clap at everything obviously

[00:06:19] Obviously is subjective because

[00:06:21] You know, it's music and it's opinion-based

[00:06:24] But you know some things, you know, I don't want to embarrass this young lady

[00:06:28] But she has more Grammys than everyone and never won out in the year

[00:06:32] So even by your own metrics that doesn't work

[00:06:36] Think about that most Grammys never won out with a year that doesn't work

[00:06:42] You know, some of you

[00:06:45] Some of you gonna go home tonight and feel like you've been robbed

[00:06:49] Some of you may it raw

[00:06:54] Some of you don't belong in the category. All right now. No, no, no, no, no, no

[00:07:01] No when I get nervous, I tell the truth

[00:07:04] But outside of that outside of that, you know, we got to keep showing up and forget the Grammys for a second just in life

[00:07:14] As I as my daughter sits instead of me nervous as I am

[00:07:19] Just in life, you got to keep showing up just keep showing up forget the Grammys

[00:07:24] You got to keep showing up and

[00:07:26] See until they give you all those accolades you feel you deserve until they call you

[00:07:32] Chairman until they call you a genius until they call you the greatest of all time feel me

[00:07:40] Thank you

[00:07:42] There it is

[00:07:52] So that's a whole lot to talk about in that spot

[00:07:57] Yeah

[00:08:00] So he won this award dr. Dre global impact award and

[00:08:06] Instead of just like, you know a guy this award blah blah blah

[00:08:10] He cuts into the injustices of a system that

[00:08:16] That

[00:08:17] I've done his his bride role

[00:08:20] DMX and him wrong right Will Smith and then when he laid that whole thing out like a preacher and

[00:08:28] Go and then he says by your own standards

[00:08:32] Yes, oh my goodness

[00:08:35] Yeah, yeah, I love that

[00:08:39] He set it up in such a way that

[00:08:42] I would even think people peeped at the beginning

[00:08:45] He made sure that all the accolades that he gave went to African-American artists in groups. So he started off

[00:08:54] Shout out dr. Dre. Yeah, what he's done in Snoop all that that he went to the black

[00:09:00] Recording or back creatives group or something like that for giving scholarships to young creatives and all that stuff, right?

[00:09:06] Then he went into talking about

[00:09:09] Y'all don't get it some of y'all will get passed up tonight and then going into like this whole idea of his wife being snug

[00:09:15] So he never once if you think about it in his speech shouted out the recording category. He only could take it

[00:09:23] He did it so slide and then feel like a critique it felt like he was like

[00:09:27] He said we just want y'all to get it right, you know out

[00:09:30] We boycott it and then we watched the Grammys we boycott it

[00:09:33] We just want to have at least get it almost right. He says

[00:09:41] So I'm sure like it was it was smooth and the sister like he never called out

[00:09:46] The recording got to be all the Grammys

[00:09:49] But at the same time he like show love for like the black folks and the people color that like actually gets snub

[00:09:55] So it was it was smooth man. It was smooth. It was preacher like I like way

[00:09:59] Yeah, I mean I was nervous I was nervous for his daughter because he you know

[00:10:04] He kind of be in a car game, but he did it a little bit more eloquently

[00:10:10] That's right. No, we're fine. It's like oh snap. What do you just say? He said, oh, you know

[00:10:17] I'm sorry. I tell the truth when I you know when I'm nervous

[00:10:24] Man, I wonder how long it took him to you know, cuz I'm pretty sure he did wrote this

[00:10:29] He didn't have this plan, you know probably when they told it and he had the nomination

[00:10:34] He probably decided if I'm gonna win this

[00:10:37] This is what is it gonna say because he says some of y'all

[00:10:40] You know get what he said y'all some of y'all

[00:10:44] Gonna feel like you got robbed and some of y'all are gonna get robbed

[00:10:47] That's some of you did get robbed and some of y'all don't even belong in a category

[00:10:52] You know, so I need to go see who was in the category

[00:10:56] Well, I can tell you right now bro because he's bringing up the artist of the year award

[00:11:02] Right at the beginning of the show Trevor Noah says tonight might be the night we see history

[00:11:08] There's only two other artists. I forgot who they are forgive me

[00:11:13] I saw the Grammys all I promise but like two other artists who've ever won three artists of the year awards in their career

[00:11:20] It's one what and then the other is Taylor Swift

[00:11:23] Which oh he said tonight. Was it sweet? So any deal

[00:11:28] No, I wasn't silly in the odd will talk about some lady on a why that was such a right that was crazy, right?

[00:11:33] I don't know. It was too hard if I'm wrong y'all correct me. Sorry correct me on Instagram

[00:11:38] I remember but like it was two other artists that wanted as she was gonna be the first one to ever win for

[00:11:44] If she won that night as it hadn't been given yet when Jay-Z gave his speech

[00:11:49] So what he's saying is my wife's got more Grammys than anybody and she's never won artists of the year

[00:11:56] And then he says some of y'all gonna give rise some y'all don't feel like you got robbed and some y'all don't belong in the category

[00:12:01] Wow, my and me

[00:12:05] He talked about who's gonna witness artists of the year or how she getting she don't have more than anybody

[00:12:11] Yet the woman I'm married to got more Grammys than anybody

[00:12:16] Joe and so I saw I think he mean going that but

[00:12:19] Which is why I say I think you did a Kanye would class. Yeah, that's all he did

[00:12:22] He just snatched the microwave say hi y'all get his son

[00:12:25] What would be I say at the best album of all time? Yeah?

[00:12:28] Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was reading I was going through social media somebody said cuz you know

[00:12:36] Charleston white say Chicago

[00:12:39] People are bullies and so one somebody I know posted well Chicago we are bullies

[00:12:47] Cuz they were talking about the difference of how Kanye did it versus how Jay did it and they said Kanye did it in a bully way

[00:12:57] Now, you know, I saw something else on social media

[00:13:01] Portain to the Grammys where they talked about I couldn't find a post but they were just like the producers

[00:13:07] Over Gen X the artists of the yeet the album of the year Gen X

[00:13:12] It was like a whole bunch of hip-hop categories that were all wood by people in their 40s

[00:13:18] And then the question that it was like what does this mean for hip-hop?

[00:13:24] Yeah, yeah, yeah, and it's like wow

[00:13:29] Now I'm looking at this

[00:13:32] Beyonce the one

[00:13:34] 28

[00:13:35] grary

[00:13:39] Yeah, yeah, I mean

[00:13:42] And then Jay Z

[00:13:45] The quiz here in 28 she tied with Quincy, right? And then Jay Z Jay Z got 24

[00:13:51] But never in the big four album record song of your best best new one. Yeah, I mean and so

[00:14:00] It's one of those kind of things that

[00:14:03] You just wonder how these how do these things go the the

[00:14:07] They change new people every time and so we had a we had a

[00:14:13] White group this time voting and

[00:14:16] Group from another country, but I don't know how does all those stuff work in that way

[00:14:20] But the thing to me with Jay one is defending his wife as a husband as a father

[00:14:27] impact

[00:14:28] Award, you know Ward E like like I'm making an impact even more so now right then two

[00:14:35] Like you said Jay affirms all the other African-American led organizations and artists, but two he is

[00:14:43] Flipping the whole logic of the folks on upside down that he did that a little bit even with the NFL when

[00:14:50] When Colin was on the knee and Jay went to go meet with the

[00:14:54] Commissioner of NFL and and had a long dialogue about like like yo what's going on and in those kind of behind the scene things

[00:15:03] Offsets that people don't know or don't talk about they want him like join the protest and

[00:15:08] Like I've joined approaches, but I want to make something happen. I won't make something happen, right?

[00:15:13] So that the class was like you said, you know Kanye will class he put everybody on blast and made other people

[00:15:21] Whoever the other people who vote or the people who hired the people who vote making them think huh

[00:15:28] You want to motion one these

[00:15:31] Right, you know right. I know she was in these categories

[00:15:33] It wasn't like she was not even I'm sure she nominated these other categories

[00:15:36] She worked when she's clearly had the album of the year at least once come on now like see she sells out

[00:15:44] arenas at an alarming rate, right like

[00:15:48] There's some year that she literally had the and then the thing that happened was it was like documented that

[00:15:55] The recording Academy so this is what people's issues are in the industry the recording Academy is supposed to be a peer voting group

[00:16:01] Right like supposed to be you get voted on by your peers

[00:16:04] That's why the Grammy is such a great award to win

[00:16:06] But nobody knows who these voters are like nobody knows who the people are

[00:16:10] And but it came out that people stopped voting for me

[00:16:15] Because she wouldn't now

[00:16:17] She wanted that last applause because if it's the fact of somebody's wanted too much

[00:16:22] Why would somebody still be able to win four hours of the year right like it's like

[00:16:27] It should work and that's why he means by don't go with your metrics. You understand. Yeah, yeah

[00:16:33] so

[00:16:35] So the three people call Simon

[00:16:37] Stevie Wonder and I just look to the past time in Stevie Wonder and

[00:16:42] John juice John in it now Frank Sinatra Stevie Wonder and Paul Simon

[00:16:46] The only ones that won three and then now Taylor Swift has four so she's the only one in the category

[00:16:52] That's a big deal like yeah, but what Jay was saying is is like

[00:16:57] we make such a big deal out of

[00:17:01] somebody who

[00:17:02] like

[00:17:04] Basically, she gets what she gets he thinks because of the fact that she's like right be the white girls in right versus

[00:17:11] Really being like elite music so, you know trash on the block man

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[00:18:00] So other things happening in the Grammys man. What else what else happened to the Grammys Jay that was crazy

[00:18:05] Yo, man my hours look I was telling Pastor Phil

[00:18:11] I was telling DJ ruckus. I put them all earlier this year that killer Mike's album Michael was the dopest about over the year

[00:18:19] I told him I told him I told him that boy got a clean sweet. He won every category

[00:18:25] They apart

[00:18:27] Segway

[00:18:30] And but it's interesting man like that dude killed it like

[00:18:35] Man super excited from the South. You know man be doing this for a minute

[00:18:40] And man made a clean sweep. It was talking about a guy good. I'll tell you don't tell me God ain't good

[00:18:46] Don't tell me that you can't you know, your dreams can't come true. Don't tell me you too old

[00:18:52] I'm too old

[00:18:54] His his testimony during his acceptance speech was so genuine man

[00:18:59] Like as somebody who really been grinding just trying to make music that was that's probably contrary to like what the industry

[00:19:07] Want you to make and

[00:19:09] Yeah, feeling like really honored that like he got that only to find himself

[00:19:15] By the time the show was done like be escorted out of him rollable, but I don't know

[00:19:22] But yeah kill my I was sad I did not I think I I don't remember if I listened to the album

[00:19:28] But now I am going to take a listen to it and

[00:19:33] Just just give it a good good listen. I think I did but I can't remember if I did it's just getting old

[00:19:40] Jeff text me two words after you do just text me. I got you

[00:19:50] Man

[00:19:52] I mean

[00:19:53] We look at the scenario and whatever comes out and finally discovered about whatever

[00:19:58] The situation was a misdemeanor and it was quote unquote a week ago

[00:20:05] It's not like Mike came in five minutes with a Grammy started and snuck in in the back and sat down

[00:20:11] And didn't nobody know who he where he was at and he looking for me

[00:20:15] And I ain't like the old I'm going on my age myself right here

[00:20:18] The Blues Brothers when they circled the whole arena and we want me and the most has a sneak out from underneath the stage or whatever

[00:20:25] So there was something about like arresting him publicly, you know in that space

[00:20:33] You know where

[00:20:35] You're just embarrassed about about

[00:20:38] We're not he ain't embarrassed. I mean he may be mad about it

[00:20:40] But in the context of embarrassing artists and black. I don't know man

[00:20:44] It's something mysterious about that piece man. That's it's frustrating now

[00:20:49] Was crazy is that we see we've talked about this before

[00:20:52] Did no police come down arrest Will Smith?

[00:20:57] Facts the fine Smith like the whole human being maybe why he might smack the white person

[00:21:10] It's over you know, it's big for us. You know, hey, right if you black history one by the way

[00:21:17] Ah

[00:21:18] The secret is different for us. You smack we're we're spending right we police is the last people we want to call

[00:21:24] You know, okay, we'll call our homies and our family so we can handle this, you know, you right

[00:21:30] Right, you smack somebody else white people or other nationalities. They might want to call the police

[00:21:36] So I don't know, you know, he will not confirm or say anything about what happened which I've yet back before

[00:21:43] He's keeping their positive. I don't want to know what happened, but he's making it positive all the top shows

[00:21:51] They just they keep asking them and he's just like look we're gonna talk about this this these Grammys a man

[00:21:57] We are party that I'm having fun

[00:22:00] Man probably still party he probably still somewhere at a party somewhere celebrate me to be ready

[00:22:07] Now that dude was so elated what he was now Malik when he got that third one

[00:22:13] Man

[00:22:16] Like man

[00:22:18] You know and you know, it's legit like tears. I know you know, you want to talk about this is something about like

[00:22:27] Real music coming from like a place of like maturity and growth and death

[00:22:34] When you talking about like real stuff that speaks to them as it speaks to people, you know

[00:22:39] And and you know, I mean him being you know, nearly 50 years old drop this album and being the one-on-one

[00:22:44] Like I think that's a real genuine conversation with it to have about like

[00:22:49] What did hip-hop is being like?

[00:22:52] Respecting and honored and like real musical spaces. I agree

[00:22:56] I remember talking with some of the young people and they'd be trying to give me the listen to

[00:23:00] All these new artists and I've been like man if I'm listening to drive-by music

[00:23:04] I don't listen to some old Spice one or somebody else. I don't need no new drive by rappers to be listed to

[00:23:12] I'm in my 40s now

[00:23:13] You know, can we talk about the back pains that I have and how I got to get up and go to work?

[00:23:18] It's gonna take care of the family and we talked about the life problems. I'm going through at this age

[00:23:25] I'm passing at a lesson. Yes, you know, I'm old just out new

[00:23:30] Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean the the fact that you want to read them all right

[00:23:38] Yes, the movement of I guess where people want the culture to go

[00:23:46] Compared some way with the industry, you know, trying to push it to go. Yes. Hey, that's say that again

[00:23:53] One day was evident from these old words. You know, I'm saying yeah, the industry is trying to take it to go

[00:23:58] It's about the money and the dollars and

[00:24:01] Simply read these kind of crazy stuff that that

[00:24:06] Of course, like I am awesome. I got a great line

[00:24:10] We says simple minds simple rhymes for simple minds lead the simple blunt

[00:24:15] You can't find a proper math matik for they might right so he's saying in a bit of that that's simple

[00:24:20] This you know, you you catch them with that age group at at three years old

[00:24:24] You've been eating hot chips for breakfast you ain't gonna think I love it, you know

[00:24:28] We won't get our chip but your stomach is jacked. So it's like that kind of food this being shared

[00:24:33] You know, I know there's probably some young cats out there to talk about here like Mike

[00:24:37] You know the way he rapping here ever at man or they say I don't even know who that is

[00:24:43] How do you know everybody jump saying no, it's dude. I don't even know that

[00:24:47] That's the same thing they said

[00:24:50] Last year when what's his name one?

[00:24:53] That do all the jazz stuff because

[00:24:57] Chris Brown got me all

[00:25:00] What's the name August of August green up? We'll be with common. Yeah. Yeah, I know you tell about

[00:25:07] Yeah, anyway, he won Chris Brown

[00:25:10] I have to say that he saw he sold our Jasper

[00:25:14] What is the name? They're a glass glass glass. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, he made shirts

[00:25:20] They said who is who this guy glass, but because that's who Chris Brown tweeted like was they through that beat me

[00:25:26] You know I'm saying tell them Mike had the first song

[00:25:32] Really

[00:25:33] Like superheroes very first song of that album that one last year was killer Mike he opened up

[00:25:39] You see what I'm saying like real artists make a real music is the ones that's getting on it

[00:25:44] And so like people don't know who he is

[00:25:46] But that don't mean that the music ain't good. You know, it should be a point thing you too good, right? Right, right, right?

[00:25:53] I mean, yeah

[00:25:55] So you look at what is going on in the midst of that to write lyrics the beat all the things that we

[00:26:03] Mugs ain't rhyming three verses no more. They got two verses, you know, and they you know, uh,

[00:26:08] I remember Jay quest had a line like

[00:26:12] Gone is the third verse like to me who put the death the third verse, you know

[00:26:18] The only other hip-hop artists

[00:26:23] On the show like

[00:26:25] Performing on the on the on the main show not the pre show because the pre show was very different

[00:26:30] The main show that had the tables and stuff was Travis Scott and his performance

[00:26:35] No offense to anybody who likes them. It was trying right like he was

[00:26:40] The only thing I like about Travis Scott is his shoes

[00:26:42] You know, I got it's Jordan's nice with the back was swoosh. I think those is cold

[00:26:45] But like isn't his performance even if I didn't like the song this performance wasn't even yeah

[00:26:50] It was like him walk down some rocks with the skinny white girl and then like

[00:26:56] Then he start picking up aluminum folding chairs and hit and throwing them all over the stage white

[00:27:01] They like literally go watch this this this thing with this yellow long white. They were they white

[00:27:07] No, I was like, oh man, he doing the nod to Alabama. Yeah, I do

[00:27:11] Like what like it was no boats. It was nothing. It was just like rocks and you just like getting mad and throwing chairs

[00:27:18] And I was like ridiculous man

[00:27:20] And this is why we got to go back to a Gen Xer right T the five good music and give an award to

[00:27:27] Because I'm once make a real music, you know and no disrespect to the sound

[00:27:31] I don't kill a care about the sound if you ain't saying nothing right then it don't matter what you sound like. Yeah

[00:27:37] Yeah, so it's something like killer Mike said he blames confusion over overzealous security guard for the Grammys arrest

[00:27:44] There's a physical

[00:27:46] physical contact between a female security guard

[00:27:49] You know who whose real name was Michael Rinder

[00:27:54] The time on my killin that's that's Mike's

[00:27:56] Let's kill him

[00:27:58] So so like like oh no, man, it just seemed like

[00:28:06] Like like that

[00:28:09] Incident or whatever didn't suit the punishment of all of that like absolutely it's like yo this

[00:28:15] I mean just a moment. I'm sitting there. We will we we working today more

[00:28:19] We go I ain't gonna get Mike. I'll crazy. I'm gonna stay right watch this pop machine like what do you mean? Like?

[00:28:26] Especially don't ask that free grab me. She won three Grammys. That's not the night to arrest him for me

[00:28:35] Come on y'all like you knew that was gonna make headlines

[00:28:39] You won't go better sneak in and grab him out real quick. Like I just

[00:28:44] I don't know. I'll tell you other thing that it brings up like it brings up to me like this idea of like

[00:28:50] You know the fact that like they they were

[00:28:54] You know team was jokingly talking about it earlier when we smacked one another black folks and nobody come right right

[00:28:58] But like it wasn't a black artist if he had just like it's a way of like diminishing his success that night

[00:29:05] You know, I mean as a black artist. I think we see it too

[00:29:09] Like as dope as it was

[00:29:11] when for the country our music award when new cones won for

[00:29:15] car

[00:29:15] Well, dope is a watch there to perform that like

[00:29:19] Tracy chairman they've been thought about

[00:29:21] Yeah, in 20 years man, and it took this white dude all of a sudden to sing our song and everybody

[00:29:26] Oh, Tracy chairman won the greatest song one is all time. Tracy. Jump me. It's just like why is it that we need like

[00:29:32] The white dude to bring the song back for us to realize like she's one of the greatest ever

[00:29:36] My I just see that woven off. I think that was what jz was saying. I see that

[00:29:41] Man, it's almost it's almost

[00:29:43] like

[00:29:44] Lynn Campbell

[00:29:46] There's a white folks snatching our

[00:29:49] Black group back in the day and and give it to glen camble because they wanted to go slower

[00:29:54] And I was having glen camble singing this song

[00:29:56] um, yeah, you got you got um, you know, chuck berry

[00:30:01] Take the chug getting some it's like the same kind of rhythm of that man, you know

[00:30:06] Elgin you watched that doc a little richer. Oh, yeah

[00:30:10] It's a documentary. I think it's on netflix about little richard and I mean

[00:30:14] It's making the a pure claim that little richard is the the first rock and roll artist period

[00:30:22] But all his style all the Beatles the you too like all these dudes all idolized

[00:30:29] Right and took his songs took his style took everything from and they went off

[00:30:35] And and made rock and roll and he don't get no credit. Yeah greater. That's the story we see all the time

[00:30:43] It's so you know, it's one of those kind of things where

[00:30:49] You know, you don't have to knock the whole mound out at one time but you chip away at it chip away at it chip away at it

[00:30:55] You know, I'm gonna set

[00:30:56] created

[00:30:59] A decrease of the integrity of the artists of the people of oh, oh, yeah, I told you how you know that

[00:31:03] I'm glad you know how they are a web this even the overzealous security guard whatever

[00:31:09] She was on yes was like

[00:31:11] Yes

[00:31:12] I gotta do something about this. He he got a mr. Mead at it. We got it. We had to do something about this, you know

[00:31:19] What was it? Where was where was that the other day when he was just going to go into the store?

[00:31:22] Why didn't you have something right?

[00:31:26] Exactly

[00:31:28] Why are we waiting to grab me like you know and when he's a winner like it just it just

[00:31:34] It all smells nasty and dirty than me. I always don't you know, like that that was shady

[00:31:40] But you know like bottom line is like I love that he taking the high road see because like what he don't want

[00:31:47] Is the accomplishment to be taken away because that to me was the worst part

[00:31:51] I know this show ain't about the Oscars or whatever

[00:31:53] But that was the worst part about the will smith slap to me

[00:31:57] Of chris rock was the fact that it happened

[00:32:01] Right after um quest love won. Yeah, the oscar for that documentary

[00:32:06] So nobody remembers quest love like nobody

[00:32:10] Nobody remembers what he did. It was this great small documentary about um this black

[00:32:17] Like uh version with so

[00:32:19] Well, yeah, like black version of woodstock right like he made this old documentary telling this story and now

[00:32:25] Nobody remembers like nobody went to go see that movie after he won the oscar because all everybody remember it

[00:32:32] So, yeah, it's just like same thing. They tried to do the killer mic man. It's like just a great

[00:32:36] The victory and I'm glad that he took in the high road because he's not letting them

[00:32:39] Yeah, you know

[00:32:40] I'm glad and uh the reality of of

[00:32:43] His his music all of the compliments who is right and even taking the high road and in that space

[00:32:48] I bet he's gonna come back

[00:32:50] And clap back on something in a way that's appropriate, you know

[00:32:53] Even even the other night when he was well, they showed some clip

[00:32:57] He was on somebody's show and they were trying to get him bill more or some were trying to get him to

[00:33:01] Co-sign on politicians and what politician are we reading you gotta read for by the trump?

[00:33:07] And he's like if Biden and we just this is logic of him

[00:33:10] It if by the can go and apologize for the chrono bill and do this and do this and such as black folk

[00:33:15] And yeah, I'm all for by yeah, but until they do you know, but until it

[00:33:19] Who's thinking that critical about a amount of that right and

[00:33:23] And bill mar was on to try to get him hooked in that spot was causing

[00:33:28] Other folks are just oh, yeah, I'm gonna be for by just you just go car blonde stink people

[00:33:32] Are not gonna think critically

[00:33:34] You know about that look look

[00:33:36] No, I had the opportunity man to be

[00:33:39] In the airport at the united airlines a little bougie little eating place in the little rival little role and here comes

[00:33:47] A shawlaming the guy shawlaming the guy names

[00:33:52] And all the old super super cool

[00:33:55] I'm up here like hey man. I don't want to bug a bull

[00:33:58] I want to bug you out, but like you cool by just shaking hands

[00:34:01] Yeah, man, that's cool. Sure can and we talked about an array of different things

[00:34:05] But man, he brought up some of our politicians and talking about the the you know, we got the got the evil group over here with what they do

[00:34:12] We've got the the the the apathetic

[00:34:15] Democrat and then we got the couch

[00:34:19] You know and

[00:34:21] I just see the voice of artists radio

[00:34:25] You know hoax um

[00:34:27] Um is significant and I say all that because even he got arrested doesn't diminish him as an artist

[00:34:33] But it's those kind of things like that. I think that folks try to find ways to

[00:34:37] To just to create some hate. Yo, we're gonna be right back man church on the block

[00:34:41] Stay right with us stay right with coming back with my mother crack

[00:34:51] Welcome back church on the block man. We are dissecting this cultural phenomenon called our grammy's

[00:34:57] Sit around some stuff at hip-hop man and talking about jay-z and what he said

[00:35:03] And and and the significance of that and and killer mike and his album. Uh, and yet, uh getting arrested

[00:35:10] kind of

[00:35:11] Uh in a way that didn't need to be done

[00:35:14] In a way that then it wasn't as if he got somebody duct tape in the base of a building

[00:35:20] We're looking for you and that kind of said the man had a mission meeting but to you know right now

[00:35:24] We we want to bring some christian mcs right christian artists or something like that and I even

[00:35:29] Am i was watching the devil wars and and the devil wars gave some props to uh

[00:35:34] Christian hip-hop

[00:35:35] They did it kind of weird to me because you know, they had like dc talk pop up

[00:35:39] They're like, oh, yeah, we y'all really brought these talk back like

[00:35:42] What's going on?

[00:35:44] Um, I should have called tear cuz that's his main

[00:35:47] Yeah

[00:35:49] Don't be this a decent

[00:35:51] Inbound don't you know

[00:35:58] You know and then they brought in uh, they brought in my man coffee and it was from uh coffee and bonafide from, um

[00:36:07] For grits. Yeah grits radical revolution in the spirit. Um, but I thought it would be out of artists that would come through

[00:36:14] And do some I don't know they had another artist

[00:36:17] Uh come I should say because there's some recognition of that being a part of

[00:36:20] More down the way I guess to see what they're honoring their culture

[00:36:23] Uh, and I appreciate the grammy's recognizing

[00:36:26] All aspects of music especially you know hip-hop not just categorizing it

[00:36:31] Letting the christians have their own you know, they own

[00:36:34] Stuff this right but if music is music if it's good music then honor it in that way and um and la craig

[00:36:40] The craig stepped up again man. He won one in 13

[00:36:43] He won one in 15 three took really three two and 15

[00:36:47] And then two and 24 so like five, uh, then he got man and um just being able to you know be consistent and

[00:36:55] You know, we've had the craig several times and we know the young man

[00:36:58] And you know Dara's wife and just being able to be proud of the fact that he is

[00:37:03] State on his grind and he has really evolved with no popular genes and taking the hits from it

[00:37:09] To be the type of artist that he is, you know, and uh, you got to be comfortable in your own skin

[00:37:16] As as an artist period, uh, let alone a Christian artist with other layers of judgements about what you're saying

[00:37:22] And what are y'all what are y'all think?

[00:37:25] Yeah, I'm always big up the craig for um

[00:37:29] You know, I know it hasn't been an easy journey for him. Um

[00:37:34] It'll come in from you know, having been in that really reformed conservative like

[00:37:40] You know, most of the white evangelical space when he started to really reconnecting with the the streets in the more

[00:37:47] you know, like

[00:37:48] Real way after the the murder to mir rice and speaking out vocally

[00:37:52] All the things he went through and I know that was a real big mental

[00:37:57] Uh, you know situation for him, but he really was struggling man

[00:38:01] We're like, you know, his faith with his music with everything and to see him come out of that

[00:38:07] And still make good music that being read recognized by the industry is powerful. Um, I respect that 100%

[00:38:15] I always will um, and I think I respect the fact number one as a father

[00:38:20] That he has daughter right there next to him. It was dope to jay z there and then you see the craig do it

[00:38:24] It's like that's what we do with black fathers man. We giving our daughters

[00:38:28] Experience yes that they would never have gotten and you know, know where we come from

[00:38:33] So I just thought that to me it was dope. You know, you know, I like

[00:38:36] Yeah, I mean I would say, you know, I'm proud of them too. I'm just proud of them for

[00:38:41] Just continuing to make music continue it to be an artist and just keep pushing pushing with your art despite

[00:38:50] Everything that's been going on kind of like what you just said that yeah, he went through a lot

[00:38:55] and

[00:38:57] That's your music

[00:38:59] Everything you want them put in put it in your sauce talk about it, right?

[00:39:02] And that's what makes it has a grill man. And so

[00:39:06] He's done that

[00:39:07] And so I'm just you know proud of him and I don't know I feel like he he bout to pop up someday

[00:39:13] Like I'm retiring or something

[00:39:18] But this is it's one

[00:39:20] It was dope one of those kind of things like we talked about the evolution hip hop and the artist too

[00:39:24] You can't keep saying, you know only on the creep side only on the left, you know, you can't keep

[00:39:29] Going that route at

[00:39:31] The things have changed around you. That's probably not even your real

[00:39:35] concern because you got other things you deal with and and and then you add that

[00:39:40] Traditional mc's but then you add it with a christian piece

[00:39:43] It's almost a demand by the church people god of faith community that you rhyme in this way

[00:39:48] Like when we're going to go

[00:39:49] Your theology in this way to take a chance to as you're evolving as an artist as a person of faith

[00:39:55] Recognizing, you know, this I don't really believe like this anymore. I still love the lord

[00:39:59] You know, you gave shout out to one one six click, you know, all my one one six people, you know

[00:40:04] it really

[00:40:06] Has allowed that growth to really bring in a whole not a generation to faith

[00:40:11] Holding a generation to to know christ and in a way and people feeling like even for folks who in the faith

[00:40:16] But they didn't want the church. They're looking at him like

[00:40:19] That's what I've been wanting to say the whole time. That's for real

[00:40:22] You know and give me other other artists a platform to say, okay

[00:40:27] Right, I can step out of this. I can I'm gonna go over here and tell him I was sold on ice. You know a solo ice

[00:40:35] You know, uh, what I like what he said, you know when he got his award

[00:40:39] To everybody there in the context of other

[00:40:44] artists

[00:40:46] Just being able to say it in a much more balanced way. He said the imprint of god is on each and every one of y'all's lives

[00:40:51] That's that y'all's I say y'all's lives

[00:40:54] During his his acceptance speech. He said you're up our you know

[00:41:00] You know, that's your up now whether you take home an award or not

[00:41:04] You are fishing in wonderfully many but I thought that was just

[00:41:08] Brilliant, you know, and if you'd been thinking about it before in or how you're gonna say it

[00:41:12] But it was just so smooth. I think that's

[00:41:17] That's where you want to be

[00:41:19] As a believer in that space

[00:41:22] Where folks feel

[00:41:24] That they can be met right where they are to take and wherever god would happen to be in whatever conversation you are having, you know

[00:41:31] Your music representing that as well

[00:41:34] I don't know what other artists were the other artists were in their category. There were other artists in their category

[00:41:40] True the truth was in there

[00:41:43] And I respect him too because

[00:41:46] he

[00:41:47] First of all, he stayed true to who he is like the truth is the truth right like he's gonna be like who he's been

[00:41:53] but his he was very gracious about like

[00:41:57] Like you go his instagram. He like yo

[00:42:00] I'm very proud of being nominated very proud

[00:42:04] Fitness, you know this category and was I hurt for like two and a half minutes? I lost absolutely

[00:42:09] I'm like, I feel real like you want to win but then he says but I'm very proud of my boy. Look right like

[00:42:16] To see his growth and to see his pros and variances. So it was like very

[00:42:20] It was not only like gracious, but it was also like uplifting another brother and christ like in the way he responded

[00:42:25] So I respect that I also feel like um

[00:42:30] Like

[00:42:32] I think we're starting to see the actual this is just my opinion. I don't tell me I think we're starting to see the actual

[00:42:38] Like immanuel men, but like who real change

[00:42:42] How the real hip hop dude like he's

[00:42:45] He's a dude who like kind of fell in love with hip hop and realized he could

[00:42:50] But like when you listen to his album just very more like god's yeah

[00:42:55] See him as shing and then he dropped a verse who is wrong, you know, man and like more genuine

[00:43:01] Be who you are. So I think it hits me more listen to his music now

[00:43:06] Um because I feel like he's being genuine. He's not trying to sound like you know, like I feel like

[00:43:11] The early music he was trying to sound like jay's rain. So I'm right. So I'm like that

[00:43:15] Uh, that they wanted no, you know, but some of the jay did more

[00:43:19] I mean the the the truth did god is good

[00:43:24] Dying on that. Yeah, let's check out the rite background

[00:43:28] It is that dynamic worship that dynamic of affirmation in in their context, you know

[00:43:34] And um, even though he's was doing some apologetics and stuff like that

[00:43:37] It hasn't been like a whole album or apologetic. I'm a rhyme and I'm gonna cut everything down, you know, and that and that's right

[00:43:44] They kind of go up

[00:43:45] uh

[00:43:46] unique

[00:43:49] Yeah, it was only two hip hop artists in there the other one was my tribe

[00:43:54] Lauren dago

[00:43:56] And uh, phil wickham. So those only two hip hop artists in there and and the hip hop one

[00:44:02] And they aim to help category which is yo this can tip to a music album. So ccm out. Yeah

[00:44:09] You know and he still wants I thought oh, yeah

[00:44:11] There was a time when you know that no artist up in that space like that, you know, the exact

[00:44:18] Exactly exactly. I think

[00:44:21] The other piece of it is like

[00:44:24] I love that

[00:44:26] When the craig came out after winning the second one

[00:44:30] um

[00:44:31] He was he was almost like

[00:44:35] I'm so humbled by this. They're like, I really just want to tell y'all god

[00:44:40] Like you know what I'm saying? It was like one of those days where like yo, I don't even really have words to say

[00:44:45] I wouldn't expect no one to like this is dope. But at the end of the day

[00:44:50] God is good. I thank god

[00:44:51] I think he said something like I thank god for allowing me to use my music to express who he is

[00:44:57] Like I get me the use who he created me to be to do this

[00:45:01] And I just think that like he knows now

[00:45:03] I think how to operate in those spaces in a way that don't feel super preachy

[00:45:08] But also feels very genuine. So I appreciate that from him too. Yeah

[00:45:14] Because that was a day boy. You had a backpack full of jottie max

[00:45:17] You know what i'm saying?

[00:45:21] Right, right

[00:45:24] I will say this too, but I know I'll take a lot of time. This is the last thing I say it. I'll

[00:45:28] uh, I watched uh, um

[00:45:30] Interview on the fix radio show shout out to the fix radio show holy ghost radio

[00:45:35] Um had one case you on there and bill earlier you was like you watching the craig

[00:45:40] Kind of sparked another entry, you know another generation of reliever. I love

[00:45:45] You know, I loved him one case you talk because what you see it was

[00:45:49] Other people try to hide that they christian rappers like they say they love jesus to love

[00:45:53] But then they like but I don't want to be known as christian rapper

[00:45:56] He was like that's stupid, bro. Like if you love jesus just say you know you about for jesus

[00:46:02] Like it's not such a thing and you you know, don't don't try to use it as like a tool

[00:46:07] But he like you sound silly when like every you like all your music is christian and then you try to say

[00:46:13] So I was like wow, I haven't heard anybody from this generation talking like that

[00:46:18] How long

[00:46:20] So it's kind of refreshing to hear somebody kind of be like

[00:46:23] Just open about the fact that no, this is what I do and he was to look to like

[00:46:28] Lecrae and like, you know, who he is and went and grabbed us all that he's like

[00:46:32] That's him. Let him do his thing and it's great. He's wonderful

[00:46:35] You know, we wouldn't be what we are without him

[00:46:37] But you know, I'll just decide to be in my lane and be like nah

[00:46:40] I did chester a ray ray

[00:46:43] He's they all get you know, so I thought that was dope. It was a fresh for 2020 fall day and that yeah, that was good

[00:46:49] That was good. That was good. I mean

[00:46:51] the moves of uh

[00:46:53] Of uh, uh music good music. I think should dominate

[00:46:57] uh

[00:46:59] The category like like what I mean is is that we went to the record store once

[00:47:03] We were going together somewhere and it was like a black gospel like

[00:47:08] Right like when white gospel it was like it was gospel

[00:47:13] Which uh, the portuguese gospel and what you gonna keep going?

[00:47:16] When do we stop like when do we stop like is it god?

[00:47:20] And then we got a texas in nor nor greek nor ebru nor greek nor greek or jew and then we got

[00:47:28] All of that that's not even important though. You know, we we had a funeral

[00:47:33] Uh, not too long ago and i'm sitting there like they they tell me hey, we need you to play some music

[00:47:39] I said well, I I wasn't prepared for all of that

[00:47:42] It

[00:47:43] Is i'm looking through my phone like what can I play? I got a lot of lot of different stuff in there

[00:47:49] But I was just like i'm up there looking for a black funeral

[00:47:58] So

[00:48:01] Playing

[00:48:05] And only because with america, you know this black history of y'all, you know, we gotta we gotta add them classifications

[00:48:11] Yeah, because of america. I don't think it would have been like let's me bust out some ccm

[00:48:19] That ain't what they're looking for right

[00:48:22] Yeah, they they they were some some can that's so

[00:48:27] And yeah, yes

[00:48:29] Yeah, exactly

[00:48:31] Well, let me let me drop these bars in y'all real quick man

[00:48:34] There was a professor who was asked to speak at this military base

[00:48:37] And his young soldier went to pick him up. His name was ralp and ralph went to go pick him up and and

[00:48:43] Got him from the plane as they're going to go get the luggage

[00:48:46] The professor kept seeing ralph like dip away dip away dip away dip away and

[00:48:52] As he began to look for ralph and see certain things he saw ralph

[00:48:55] Go over to this one kid and and help him up with the parents help him up to go see santa

[00:48:59] Then he would go follow the the the professor

[00:49:01] And then he would dip a dip away again helps me with the luggage and go back to the professor

[00:49:05] Dip away again helps me with some directions and and and the professor finally said hey man

[00:49:10] What did you learn that he said wait a minute learn what he said?

[00:49:13] Where did you learn to live like that? Were you served folks that kind of uh, uh,

[00:49:17] Were so well aware self-aware of what was going on. He said well

[00:49:22] I guess I learned it when I was you know in vietnam and in in in the war

[00:49:27] He said what do you mean? He said what do you mean that he said well?

[00:49:30] um, my job was to clear minefields and how he watched

[00:49:36] His friends

[00:49:38] Blow up in front of his eyes. So he's saying this to this professor

[00:49:41] He said I learned to live between the steps

[00:49:44] I never knew whether this the next one would be my last step

[00:49:49] So I learned to get everything I could out of that moment between

[00:49:54] That step when I picked up my foot and the next step when I put my foot down

[00:49:58] And I put it down and put it picked it up every time every step I took was a whole new world

[00:50:04] Now I've been living that way ever since man the abundant life that christ promises and john

[00:50:08] 1010 that the thief comes to steal kill him in the store

[00:50:11] But through christ christ gives us abundant life let us live between the steps

[00:50:15] Let us recognize that the landmines that we are in and what we experience in our life

[00:50:21] It's not all of life. We can live in a bonnetsy

[00:50:25] With the landmines being grateful for every step guy gives us to walk in his space

[00:50:29] Young pastor filled with my great brothers great friends great oaths

[00:50:33] Pastor j

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