678. Music Producer D/R Period Goes Gospel

[00:00:19] It's time to spark a revolution This time is for Christ with no pollution Yeah, we see the world got no solutions Trying to dim my lights, but we can't lose it Let's be be doing with the wrong flow, give it go And seize and DJs Here we go, producers on the beat That's about to blow This to Christ for the Lusher Music Radio Show You are locked in now with a special artist to artists interview with paradox Don't hesitate to smile This is about the good

[00:00:48] Everybody man, we have a special special show today. We got in the house our bro DR Period D What's going on my brother?

[00:00:59] What's going on my brother how you feel sir? I feel good man is Friday I've made it through all of the hours and the early portion now we just coasted Yes, it's like rollercoaster ride right now, but it's all good

[00:01:12] Absolutely man, absolutely welcome to the show. Definitely definitely definitely we look forward to having this conversation you have a history and just a track record of being blessed to be in the music industry as well as

[00:01:31] Doing films and different things so we're going to cover a lot of those different elements as we go into the interview, but we start off with your your background you upbringing sometimes that is the foresight of

[00:01:44] Seeing how did you get here because a lot of people want to be in different positions and Rolls and they don't really see how it all comes together and it also will paint a picture that everyone don't have the same start

[00:01:58] But they can still end up there. So it's always cool to hear those stories So I was your upbringing in your background My upbringing was very interesting. I should say you know when you younger you don't understand what's going on in your life

[00:02:13] You know, but if you continue on pushing forward you start getting some answers eventually And you know, I come from a rough background, you know born and raised in Brooklyn, you know, so it never really was an easy upbringing for us

[00:02:31] Leaving a house and going wherever the direction I was trying to go You know, I ran into everything you could possibly think about that's not right to do And I also ran into opportunities and things that that looked like it could be the right thing to do

[00:02:47] You know, and it was just a question of choice. It was all my time. It was always about you know Okay, what excites me? You know, so you know as a young and you go through phases

[00:03:01] You know, you say hey, you know, I want to do this. I want to do it with that Or I want to go up and be dance, you know, so yeah

[00:03:09] Now I was very blessed very I can say very young because you know, God always played the role in my household You know through my mother through my household And that was one of her things you always was trying to like teach a kids how to pray

[00:03:24] How to do God, you know, and like I said when you young you might not catch the whole Concept or what she's trying to get you to think Yeah move off of but you know after a while it all started hitting home, you know, because

[00:03:40] You start getting into things just started doing things. So I say that I'm coming out of Brooklyn in those days and that time. That was really hard But I made it, you know, you know, I made it and you know, to have the gift

[00:03:56] And to be able to use your gift. Yeah, being able to use the power of God Working in your life and not knowing how God is working in life and not even being

[00:04:08] And now you're more about the whole idea that God is by your side step by step Yeah, and then when you finally realize it It's like my phone. It's like a game changer to you, you know

[00:04:20] Yeah, absolutely. Some good stuff man because that's the reality, you know, you're starting out living life And making decisions what's around in the neighborhood, what is everyone else up to But I did hear you say, you know, trying to think what do you want to be

[00:04:37] So when you were growing up, did you know what you would want to be? Like, did you already have something in sight in your mind? Well, I had a lot of ideas on what I wanted to be.

[00:04:49] You know, it was just it was just the question of like, how I was going to get there. You know, one of the things that I did know for fat was music was a drive and passion in me. Like, it's a household thing, you know,

[00:05:02] Coming up young and watching my mother be the gatekeeper to a lot of these musicians And being responsible of most of these musicians meeting one another and how I was open up her door to the struggling musicians in that time

[00:05:18] To be a command, have a place to practice, a place to eat, even lady and sometimes I didn't understand why she was so, you know, helpful to that community And but music was always around me and her thing was all her kids had to learn

[00:05:35] An instrument. You're going to school just don't go to school. You better pick up some kind of instrument Learn something about music because that was her thing and it rubbed on all of us And but for me, carry me a little different because I'm the youngest

[00:05:49] I know all of my older brothers and me being the youngest all of my older brothers Just to really be like, you know, put the music man. You really, really good at what you're doing

[00:05:59] And one thing led to another and next thing I know, the music was my calling You know, something you want to do in the music but I didn't know what So I went through the phases of DJing and humans in boxing, you know, even down the break

[00:06:15] Dance and I know you might look at me and go, you know, I know what a break dance You know? So I went through so many phases, you know, from even graffiti right in

[00:06:27] And every band, you know, when I started really like coming into myself as a teenager Yeah, I started realizing like, wow, music is something about music, it keeps calling me And I really got really focused in the music and God was really getting me

[00:06:43] It was like, look listen, I got a plan for you. But when it takes some time on the Develop you, yeah, it's the come but sometimes and I'm gonna get you there Yeah, one thing led to another and yeah, I never even thought I was so

[00:06:59] One record or even make a record to more or less sell over 30 million records as a producer You know, I knew that was the glory of God being in favor in me

[00:07:10] So I knew what it was about at that point so I started realizing like, yeah, it's got to be more To me but I don't know yet. So yeah, I'm gonna ask you a question I was talking to another artist and because we have some

[00:07:26] History with experiencing life, we can ask these type of questions, you know What do you prefer when you think about your upbringing and growing up in music to you prefer vinyl or cassette I actually prefer them both because they physical product, you know

[00:07:45] And to be honest with you, vinyl was a little bit more last longing Then cassette because you know, you don't clean your heads And you don't clean on machines, this tune that you set up like you built tomorrow

[00:08:02] And if anybody ever experienced trying to take the sense back together Looking for it, yeah, that's like going into the operating room What's more of a surgery, like, yeah, it's a real deal Yeah, if we're a great fan of vinyl, yeah, vinyl, yeah

[00:08:21] I remember getting a little screwdriver trying to open that cassette So you can get the tape in and then put it back and screw it back Right, right, and then get the little whale that you try to do Tighten just enough, so you can do the rolling

[00:08:38] You get kind of nice in those kind of areas And now we can just reach on our phone and play every album for the past Tell me about it. This is like, wow, look at the chronology group Definitely, group, definitely, group

[00:08:56] So you were in the elements of hip hop and its formation, the manifestation of it Because you defined the four areas just didn't get in the MCing But everything else was there How was that for you being in New York?

[00:09:13] Because I know I'm in Philly, so I grew up in Philly So we had similar things but not quite the same Because you guys had the record companies in your city So it was like a whole another level of just access

[00:09:28] And just being from New York, like, was it any artist that got into hip hop That you knew at an early stage before, you know, it really took off What were you seeing growing up in Brooklyn? Was there any artists that was there Start of recording?

[00:09:50] Yeah, it's funny because Brooklyn was the home in the birth of a lot of incredible And she sees that started that whole hip hop, you know, foundation You know, I can't say from the beginning but Harry, the torch and help elevated

[00:10:09] I mean from the big daddy came to, you know, to the stats society I mean, how do you make masters to, um, the Chasticive season The list goes on and on and then you get the car mains Then you get the special lady

[00:10:26] You know, I watched a lot of artists Somehow some way was in the music, you know, then they got caught into labels Little small independent labels in those times Yeah, and then we brought the things called white labels at the time

[00:10:42] You know, and a lot of them had what we call local success, you know, the record played on Like the magic show, probably more spending the record or Yeah, um, and when it was the Hank Hank Lover has pint

[00:11:00] The Mighty Mike Master Show something like that, just to see shows It was all that and then I started going outside of New York I mean, you're a booklade Yeah, I started going up town, they started going to Queens in the Bronx And then relationships started growing

[00:11:20] And then I started seeing a lot of artists from all different burrows Like somehow some way they was getting into music business Yeah, and I knew that that's where I wanted to go But I didn't know exactly how that was going to work out

[00:11:34] I understood. So when you started playing instruments Were you thinking more I would be into R&B, I would be into versus hip hop Because remember hip hop was just starting out so far Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

[00:11:52] That's cool, but I know R&B singers, you know, the barge and Michael Jackson You know what I mean? All of that was bigger than hip hop was in those days So where did you think you were landing? Well, in those in that time being a musician

[00:12:06] It was more or less making the drum live, you know, because drum I mean, my instrument of choice, you know, I say my weapon of the war of music You know, drums became that for me But um, I had a great music teacher

[00:12:22] You know, his name is Stick Sandbis That's one of James Brown's drummers Wow, and he's been He was training me for like four years in music, you know, For as that's how I started learning how to play piano, it was a different instrument

[00:12:36] And how I started growing into my whole music and shit And it wasn't no specific genre music It was just trying to stay in the band because a lot of people is getting cut You know, because we have to learn to re-shoot music and do all that

[00:12:52] It would be really good at it, you know? Because if you couldn't keep up It sticks with the kind of teachers like love man, you ain't got it man Just get him go to the gym, you know? You send everybody to the gym

[00:13:04] Go pick up a basketball, do some of this role right here It's not for you, you know? I've watched so many people walk to the gym, you know? Yeah, and I was like, I'm not going to walk that line

[00:13:14] No way, so I kept walking, kept up and kept up And I actually was a little step ahead Because I had an older brother, Booby Who was a drummer and ace of playing on his drum set

[00:13:26] And his drum set was like a full complete drum set, you know? I think he had like a 15 piece drum set And I wanted to hit every piece of that drum set But just playing around got me shocked So when I got into the music class with sticks

[00:13:44] I was already like a little header a lot of people And that was all, you know? Because my brother Booby, I watched him I worked for him, I studied and you know, just getting all that locked in

[00:13:56] That forgot me going so I knew right there as I was doing the musician part of me I was learning about hip hop So R&B was something I learned how to do play other songs You know? I learned how to play by ear

[00:14:12] I learned a lot of things just listening to all different styles of music Because sticks wasn't a lot of play just anything, you know? A lot of hard I call a lot of difficult pieces Because we used to have battles at this place called Kill Go Auditorium

[00:14:30] Down in Brooklyn on J Street And it was the battles of the school for, you know, the bragging rights of the year And get trophy and who has the best band and we used to be in that every year

[00:14:40] And that's why he's the sharpest, and us to be prepared for those kind of battles So yeah I was ready and I was prepared so to find the job of music I think I learned a lot about R&B Yeah, and pop, folks

[00:14:56] And then I discovered hip hop Gotcha So that's all the early stages of the instrument Were you playing at that time or end up now? Well at that time it was first I went in there for drums

[00:15:20] Then I learned piano, then I learned bass, then I learned guitar And then I learned how to play a couple different trumpets and different things like that Fluent because what he had was this thing

[00:15:34] Like yo don't get stuck in one place, see if you talented enough to do more than one instrument I found that interesting and that actually really built the whole producing thing about me So now when I listened to records at that point, I was listening to each part

[00:15:50] And studying how a bass player would think when he do bass lines and Get to our play with think when he's doing the guitar riffs and what a trumpet player would do with a whole section is about

[00:16:02] You know I was studying so hard because I was now introduced to the different instruments Yeah, so a little bit of an instrument yeah Yeah, so when you're in that type of element and you're listening to music now and you're listening to it completely different

[00:16:18] Others who aren't playing instruments listen to it like yeah that sounds good But you're hearing things jump out of the mix and be presentable to you So I asked you this question from the standpoint of those early formative years What was your favorite song?

[00:16:40] What was your favorite song you played over and over and over again? And it was just one song that we learned in the class and it's a song called Pots and Pants Pots and Pants I think I heard that It's one of those like pop-ish on people real

[00:16:58] Real funky like you We're moving at that Back-up was one of those that that song I played over and over I mean that was my song and then you know like when you get into hip-hop

[00:17:18] Did you get a break beats and then I want your favorite break beats yeah patchy I had a UTF on what is UFO I had a St. St. St. It was a punch it was great

[00:17:30] It was just you know music was grabbing me like in the way like I've never It almost felt like a relationship Yeah, I fell in love It is I mean for those who grew up in music we know what you're talking about like

[00:17:46] Yes, you have your own record player. Yeah, your own stack of records Yes, you used to know all the different labels and you're Say oh, this is RCA. Yeah, I know what I was really good at that. Yeah, I was studying and then I look at artwork on

[00:18:06] The covers for so long while listening to the song And then I discovered like how KWC Jones was involved with music So every For many different levels I said didn't be like wow KWC Jones did this He did that wow like yeah, that's the definitions of producer

[00:18:24] Yes, yes, yes So who is your favorite producer if you're thinking about overall I had a couple. I had a couple. Teddy Lottie was my favorite For us aren't babyface Terry Lewis Jimmy Jam These are those producers from that time and that era Um, then uh, who else?

[00:18:52] Who else? Quetzal Jones is my favorite Um It was a couple of it was a couple I mean I didn't even in the hip-hop world from the peak rocks to You know Molly Mall to Yeah, through those guys to

[00:19:10] Even the guy I remember the bar tastes Swain from Joe to C Yeah, I'm not favorite Like it was a couple Produces that really set fire to me like I just enjoy like the way they created Yeah, so how was your mind spending when you're

[00:19:30] Hearing those type of records come out and those producers The mixes and stuff and your mind to spend and to say I think I can create that type of music on that type of level Was that starting a stir-firing you to say

[00:19:48] I got to get some equipment now So I can find out how good I am and test myself Was was those some of your your feelings It was a lot to have to do with I say Learning I was doing more learning from these people

[00:20:04] I was like wow these these guys got they got They got they craft down like because I didn't know what they was doing Like I didn't know how to how they was even laying tracks Like I didn't know why I tracked was laid

[00:20:16] It stopped right there but they motivated me to try to find out So that's when my internship started happening Where I was going to Z studio and Brooklyn And uh in turning there Trying to figure out like what a studio

[00:20:32] Going on how but they kept me on coffee machines and the cleanup You know assignments so I became real good in coffee making it clean up You know, but those producers used to make me go I then when I first heard God

[00:20:48] When they first came on the scene And I was so blown away I was like man these guys I don't know what they doing now. I they doing it and then One of one of one of a good friend of mine

[00:21:00] But I shared he introduced me to a man named Royubayan Royubayan was one of the mentors to Teddy Riley at the time And when I met Royale Royale took me up and said yo

[00:21:16] I wanted to introduce him to Teddy Riley and I was like why you don't take me So he took me in and me Teddy Riley and now when I went in that studio Because I already knew these studios and it was a very great studio

[00:21:26] But I went into a studio called soundtracks when I met him He was down here doing some remixes and stuff like that I think it's rack unit and see all those different modules that he was using To make those songs All I said I need that rack unit

[00:21:44] I don't know what I mean that really But I need that unit And then that started the motivation for me to want to get ahead and just you know Start pulling equipment together and start trying to figure it out So I took my internship a little more serious

[00:22:00] And I really started getting good at you know listening and watching And taking notes and writing stuff down, you know so Yeah, yeah, and then I became like I can't even see the system engineer But I came in the system to an engineer

[00:22:14] But what I was doing on the boards but I was able to talk and ask what this is not mean in your time Well, this is the high end but it's just the made, it's just the bottoms

[00:22:26] Once you learn what's flat, you know the whole board next thing you got to learn It's like zilly the buzz that you know so I just started learning As I was going along and then this all started kind of making sense as I was getting into it

[00:22:40] Yeah, yeah, so Was your heart always still focused more primarily on the creation of music and wanting to do that But of course as the engineering aspect because you were right there seeing records being mixed

[00:22:54] And the outcome of what they went in would dry and what it comes out with With all the finish and touches That that started trying to get in some time of your desire of Creation music or as it? Yeah

[00:23:09] Yeah, because I say that it was a combination of it all like Watching something from the beginning and then hearing it at the end and then I didn't understand what they was doing. They said, yeah, they got mixed this. And I was like, what they mean about mixed?

[00:23:26] Like what is that about? And then when I sat into a couple of mixed sessions, I started understanding they took all the levels and brought them down. And they started raising everything up one by one and then they pulled the vocals up at a certain place

[00:23:40] and then started putting everything up under the vocals. And so I just started understanding but then they had these things, this thing called it really real at the time. So they showed me how to slice tape and step things up. And I was learning the real stuff,

[00:23:54] the real recording industry. So that was hands on, you know, it's great. That's why I knew I was a blessed thing. And I knew it was destined for me to do that. So becoming an engineer was something not wanted to become and then learning

[00:24:09] like how they was making the production and the producing. I wanted to be a producer. And then they also wanted to wrap. I DJ first, I hear the B-bots and I discovered that I can write some words. So then I wanted to wrap.

[00:24:24] And I think I wanted to just be down because it wasn't even about making the record. It was just like, I just want to see what I can do with these guys can do. It wasn't like I was looking for a record deal and nothing like that.

[00:24:37] I was just so excited that, you know? That I could be in the music business and do what these guys I look up to was doing. Yes, so that's like the role. I think I was wanting to be at all.

[00:24:52] And like you're saying that gave you an edge. Yeah. You started producing because most producers start out producing not mixing. Yeah. It's like you were introduced to the whole thing behind the scenes. Was there any records that came out from that studio?

[00:25:14] That became popular that you were like, I was in the room when they recorded it. Or I was in the room when they mixed it. Yeah. It was a couple of... See, what happened was that studio burst a lot of like Cindy Lawford type,

[00:25:32] Madonna, Debbie Gibson, all the pop stuff. I started learning to understand pop music a little different because that's where Z studio was really, like, no for the big pop records. You know at that time, it was the producer Fred Zarr. He was like this real huge pop producer.

[00:25:53] And you know, my brother, I missed a beat. You know, he was like his go-to guy on the internet. Then he had Jeff and Peter from family stand used to being in creating a music. You know, it was the home of the big record guys, you know? Yeah.

[00:26:10] I watched a lot of that stuff start and then I watched the ending results of the whole lot of that stuff. And I was like, wow, that's amazing. You know, and then I see how the plaque came in and they hung it on the wall.

[00:26:22] I was gonna study and walk down the steps. Every time I walk down the steps, they've all seen this plaque going down the steps. And I used to always see in my head. I went one step. You know, one day I'm a build a place like this

[00:26:34] with my basement and it wasn't his basement. But he had the whole house and he had the plaque going down the steps. You knew he was going to study, you know? And I said, I can just get like something like that going on

[00:26:46] and I didn't know what the plaque came from. I thought they made those things and just put them on wall or something, you know? As life goes on, you earn those and that's the acknowledgement in the music business that they give you when you reach a certain level

[00:26:59] of a success, you know? And then, you know, I actually was blessed to have nothing more walls for the plaques. Yeah. So in that element, you know that the creation of music doesn't mean every record does create it gets out the studio and make it to the record

[00:27:19] where you start to be introduced to spending hours on something that never really see the light a day because either the label shoots it down but it's one of your favorite songs in your life. They got to let this one rock like everything you see.

[00:27:35] Beyond this ritual, I really see a lot of that. I see the light of records was made but I never heard them come on a radio. You know? And I really wasn't like a part of it. My engineer, producers point out with just in the room

[00:27:55] and I used to see them write songs and they come out so good and sound so good. But then the next day they were doing another song and I never heard that song again. So I see a lot of that constantly going then

[00:28:07] I started going to other studios and that was happening the same way in other studios. Yeah. Yes, I've been around a lot of that. Yeah, I see a lot of that happening. That's amazing because so much music is created

[00:28:22] and then it's like you're not doing nothing with it. Like you just see it. Yeah. Now we know. And today we know that that record may not have sailed with that artist but they'll sell it to some other artists who were reaching it.

[00:28:39] And next thing you know is a hit and you're like wait a second, it was a hit before but for the right person quote unquote. So you're a lot of that. Yeah, it's a lot of that that goes on. So when did you actually start producing?

[00:28:55] When did that moment happen? What did you get your hands on to start crafting your own sounds? Well, for do said we came serious for me is when I tell the story, I don't really talk about it a lot. By the part that they did,

[00:29:11] yeah, make us a train and yeah, you know he passed away. And he was the DJ and I was the rapper at the time. You know. We had a little group that was called Dr. Darryd, the DJ and make us a train and that was our little combination.

[00:29:29] But when he passed, I kind of felt the dark space and I went into a dark space. I didn't really want to do music like that, you know. And the gym teacher, Ms. Baker, used to come around and check up on me

[00:29:45] because she knew how close me in the hour was. And she's always saying, you guys have some real good music. I don't think you should stop. But it just didn't seem like what, you know, what I could do yet. We even had a deal situation where every came,

[00:29:59] and records. Wow. And we supposed to put a single out, you know. And it just a lot of stuff just didn't happen. And the producer then came from me being depressed and getting really want to, to do so I always had this anger in me.

[00:30:19] So when I started back, mess with music, I didn't want to rap them all. So I felt it was something missing. But I started producing. So this is why the music started becoming hard, you know. That's when I started making all that,

[00:30:35] you know, against the kind of beats and all those hard chords, you know. Because I was in the dark place at the time. And after the producing started kicking in, then people started telling me, oh, you got some nice beats. You got some nice music.

[00:30:48] And then the thing I know one beat go out to doing and it gets with someone else, then it gets with someone else, and it gets with someone else, every year, and then you're in and out. And next thing I know that's what I was doing.

[00:30:58] I was pretty too. What equipment were you using at that time for the early stages? My early stages had a history of my first machine. I could be here all day telling you this stuff. I treated my first machine for a pair of blown away

[00:31:15] plums and the sheepskin coat. And the first machine I ever got my hands on was called the Soul Sonning Drop. And that's this black box with four great circles and comes with plastic drumsticks. Wow. And in my little nephew, he had a blue radio that he broke.

[00:31:34] And for some house already, thought the radio was damaged. And I asked him, can I have the radio? They gave me the radio. And I connected why is the guy that had the Soul Sonning drum play out to speak as a blue little blue radio.

[00:31:48] And that was my first setup. And then from there, I got a doctor rhythm. Then I got a T.R. 9-9-9, then I got a D.D.1 call. And then I discovered the NPC 60 Mark II. First before the Mark II, I had the NPC 60.

[00:32:03] When it first made it, the Roger Lender D.C. by Kai. And then I got the NPC 60. And it was called the Mark II. That was the second version of it. And it was history of a system. And when I got those machines,

[00:32:18] that's when the producing of D.R. really start developing them. So were you more or less sampling or did you have something to play keys into? Like how were you crafting some of the early sounds? I did what we call replays.

[00:32:40] Because at that point, my new, I'm a musician. So yeah, that's why I mean, good. This is who I record, and I didn't really because the machines went in was sampling time before I got the NPC 60. Holy Culture Radio is operated by the Corling Solutions.

[00:32:57] If I have a one-seat ministry dedicated to empowering people to reach their potential, if you feel like they contribute to this mission, visit www.holiculture.net slash donations. So after experiencing that and now starting to get more into,

[00:33:15] you know, the same beats are going out the door now. Right. So it's starting to invite you into different elements where people will want to have you producing, you have a bigger opportunity, because this label has this artist science at them. What?

[00:33:33] Because it's hard for us to go through everything you probably experienced. But what was the most exciting time when one of your beats got picked up and it became something that blew your imagination from the standpoint of how far it went? Like one of the special ones.

[00:33:54] It's funny that you say that because I never had a Pacific, like, time where I was doing it. Yeah. In a certain way, you know. Like I discovered that I was making records when one day I'm in the car,

[00:34:14] with my parents and my brother, and the record came on the radio. And the record came on the radio. It was one of those beats that I programmed and left out of the studio. Oh, wow.

[00:34:26] And I was like, wow, that sounded like that beat that I made that bloody blast studio. I knew that was popular back then. I was like, yeah, that was pretty mean. That sounded like so when I started hearing the records,

[00:34:39] I started realizing that, okay, you know, something is going down. And now that I know that is going down, I started understanding like, wow, when I programmed people were used. But I used to just leave all the machines just because the machines

[00:34:59] was like, the way it was set up, they had the machines on. You obviously decided to hit a new machine, make a lead. You know, just leave. Yeah. And didn't know that when people came in and do sessions and they hit play,

[00:35:16] they were screaming at beat padding and didn't end up just adding all to the record. And that's when I started realizing that I was doing something. Co-producer. Yeah. I didn't really understand what it was growing into. But I took that whole situation and turned to the ground.

[00:35:36] And then when I started explaining some of my mother, then my mother started explaining me what it was going on. And this she introduced me to Abby and Abby was like the manager, Madonna, that game sitting in all of them. He started explaining me, exactly.

[00:35:49] All these questions, what's through do you went to? What, what can you did? Isn't it? I don't know when I'm telling them this and then. You know, so. As you're trying to go off a memory and you probably have been assuming the studio's excited about their equipment.

[00:36:03] You just. There you go. Being in your plane around, you're messing around and hitting padding and drums. That's what I started getting excited. Like, wow, that beat that I program at that studio is crazy because now people are using the beat.

[00:36:20] And then this is then I kind of started learning a little bit more about what I was doing. Yeah, and then I started to be careful. Yeah. Yeah, that's true because that's all intellectual property and all that creation and you're supposed to be a part

[00:36:37] of everything that that goes with for the future. And it's like if you have no paperwork, no one can be able to validate supported. And yeah, I lost a lot of what they just just money. But it's still training. That's the whole thing about it, right?

[00:36:57] It's still training is just that you were a apprentice to someone's hit, you know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But doing I pulled on to it, then I started behaving like, you know, the proper way and started doing things and being more mindful.

[00:37:12] That's what I learned about copyrights and, you know, start learning the business a little bit more. Because now I realized I was in the business. If somebody was taking a beat and using it, I can't even say they stole it because they didn't know how to do it.

[00:37:26] You know, they did this. I walked in and got put in that. What if you happened to be in the same zone, able to say, oh, this is something. It's for them, you know? So yeah. Yeah. That's what I said.

[00:37:39] So what was the first record that you heard that went all the way to the moon, you would say that you didn't see foresee it being that from the creation of standpoint? Well, I say for me when I was working with positive

[00:37:57] chain and then he did I got a man that we didn't know crime than a, um, then I got to end to a situation with a freedom of ways of seeing some music factoring and doing that stuff and work over there. And that started blowing up over there.

[00:38:16] It kind of like really all started happening from there and then it started growing into something else. And then I was like kind of in a position to gain street credibility at that time, you know, for producing those street hip-hop records and then it started going there.

[00:38:39] And then, um, next thing I know, records all over the radio, things just happened with people after do some records for us getting signed and it was a lot of like blessings coming down like heavy on me.

[00:38:53] And I was like, wow, you know, and that's when I really, really was like, so don't I dare like music is you man, that's what you want me doing. Yeah. But rest of your life, I think you're going to be doing music,

[00:39:05] you know, and I've been, yeah, I've been in and I've done it. So to hear records started happening, then next thing I knew I'm out there at LA at the time at the Jackson House, you know, Janet Jackson was at the time on a

[00:39:20] resignation tour and I stayed at the Jackson House and I stayed in the room that she was staying every touch and come over to the family house. So I stayed at that bragging race going around. Nobody. Oh, back in the day, back in the right.

[00:39:34] I was playing balls with the job. I played basketball with Jackson. I slept with Jackson. Ben. Oh, my God. I think this guy here, man. But it happened. And truly, that's right. I remember when I beat Biosho Joe Jackson in the very first time, that man was smiles.

[00:39:50] Oh, I think he can believe me beat Biosho like that because that was a very good beat, you know? So a lot of blessings came out of what was going on with me, but I didn't understand still at that point how God was working

[00:40:05] as magic and developing me to become the person that I am to this day. So that journey was like amazing because it was kind of almost like it was meant to be. You know, a lot of my mistakes, a lot of my bad situations,

[00:40:21] could was coming out of it. A lot of my mistakes good was being made in them. Like it was just so much bad going on and wrong going on. But at the same time, God was like, look, listen, I'm getting a little bit of go down like this.

[00:40:35] Yeah. So a lot of that was happening. So you know, yeah, I got to experience some real great racking to the very beginning in that hit radio and did a lot into golf. Yeah. So when was the top? Yeah, it was a couple of racking. It's a couple.

[00:40:54] Yeah, well, when we go through the discography, you know, people online, they can be see all of the records. Oh, yeah, they're very chill right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there was a lot of records. Like if you look at my Instagram, wow, I didn't get this guy.

[00:41:10] Just, you know, this is the one man band doing all this stuff. Boy, these people, yeah, but that's how it was for me. Yeah. And like you were saying, God's hand was still on you, even though the content may have not been glorifying to him is just that

[00:41:25] that's where you were in a creative state and even all of the different challenges. Because I'm sure it gets even more complicated. I've seen another interview we're talking about when you're working with this camp, another camp can be offended by what

[00:41:39] you're working with that camp and is trying to deal with. And opportunities, it's like why is this so complicated? It's just music. And it's like, yeah, it's not music. Yeah, because one thing I realized is that, you know,

[00:41:55] through the music because when I had to think about it, you know, I went into silence with, I said, I'm not going to wrap them on. I'm not going to be doing this wrong thing or whatever, because you know, my experience of being that

[00:42:09] and losing my best friend to same time. Yeah. So that put me in what we call a real dark place. But God's said, look, I'm going to develop you and I'm going to bring you back to it.

[00:42:20] And all these years, and even though that the content was in growing fine God, he was designing my craft as a producer, as a marketing person, as a creative person. And all the great thing, because he said, the time that you

[00:42:35] are opening your mouth again is, speak, you're going to have a reason to talk. And that's why I tell everybody, maybe some people be like, oh, why? Oh, son, you're having that old, why do you, you know, I'm sitting making breakfast.

[00:42:49] I've got a reason now, because God gets growing everything I do now from this point on. You know, so it's different for me. And then, you know, I always use it as like a boxer and a ring and he swing his swing in the out of breath.

[00:43:04] And did he get that second win? And he goes super hard and then start winning that fight. That's where I feel God did for me. And he got that second win. It was like, look, now let's go. Hey, man.

[00:43:16] And I was like, wow, go Holy shit, she was developed. Wow. So missions are always open for artists and we are not hard to fight. Holy, coach your diet net for slash submissions. Let's get into that. Let's get into when did you get to that?

[00:43:35] You know, what happened for the moment of you to say, God, I'm ready. I'm ready to shift. I feel you pushing me to this way, you're leading me and God in me this way.

[00:43:49] And to slow down on all because I can look at your discography and I see there was a Paul's period. Yes. You probably just mature and growing and God. So for you, what got you to that point and you're going to explain it from there

[00:44:07] because you lived it. Because what's been happening in that, what happened is that I've been working on my life. And for a person that born and raised in Brooklyn, you know, I started going to church, and I went to a church.

[00:44:26] I was invited to a church in the first church that I went to that hit me like that was a has a kaywalket church. Right there. And then you took it on right there. Yeah, so I went to this church and mine you were me walking then.

[00:44:43] I've never felt that feeling before. I thought it's something different about this building. And then I started noticing that I kept telling everybody how exciting church was for me. And like, God man, you fucking out of these, oh, I church, you know, you know, you're

[00:45:01] like giving me that philosophy of my church, you know? Of course. I was hearing it. I was dealing with it, but I think the real transition happened is the day when I went and got saved. So I left Brooklyn.

[00:45:12] I moved out there to a land city that you know, I was thinking out there. And then I went to another church with Pastor Woodrow McKenzie, right? You know, and when I went to the McKenzie church, that's when I became a part of something

[00:45:30] because they embraced me and walked me into the brotherhood. And I'm going to a couple of brotherhood meetings and listening and watching me brothers and what they was giving me from the day when I walked in, they gave me that every time

[00:45:45] I sent them and it never changed. It never changed. They never made me feel uncomfortable. They're not coming back. You know, it was a real solid situation. And I think what really happened is when I got into that process where I was kind of confused

[00:46:02] or what I want to do. You know, where I got to a point. I didn't want to make records. So I just started focusing on product placements with. And for me, you were publishing, you know, we do the submission game for TV and films and commercials.

[00:46:17] So I just started doing that for years and years and years. But then I got saved. And when I got saved, I didn't know what that was all about. So I got saved. Then I started noticing my life is changing.

[00:46:31] So the people that I wanted to be around me so bad and keep close to me got was moving up. Yeah. And I was like, wow, all the people I liked is leaving. Yeah. You said, what is it about me? Yeah, it was just all about so. Yeah.

[00:46:48] The separation started happening. And then I started feeling like, you know, you get to a place where you start feeling alone. Yeah. But then now, maybe feeling alone wasn't me feeling alone. God just put me in a place where I can concentrate now. I'm sorry.

[00:47:04] And he put me in a place where I could hear them now. So my ears was different. So when people talk, I hear people talk. But when God talk, I was paying attention. Yeah.

[00:47:16] And then he was like, well, this is what you're going to do with the church. You hear how bad the system is in the church. Why? And you got the ability to go in that church and fix that problem.

[00:47:24] So I went in there and fix the problem of the sound. Then I started realizing he's speaking with partially blown. So I started don't need to speak as to the church and when and what the mnesset of EVs

[00:47:37] and and told that church until a sound like a club. Yeah. All right, that place jumping. You thought you was a club. Well, sadly, man. You gotta bring something sound. Get the software. Get your sound in.

[00:47:48] And my pastor, Mr. Cunning me is like, I don't know what you're doing back here in this sound room. But you can't be going. So you ran a sound room. So I run in the sound room now. So I'm they sound up. They never had that before.

[00:48:03] They had some people just fix the power. But buy thems and whatever. But after a while, I became a part of that church and then next thing I know they talking my breaking ground and expanding the church and doing that. I'm a deep breaking ground with them.

[00:48:18] I did doing it all. Like, I became a part of it with my homies like, oh, you now turn to a church boy. I'm like, well, call it what you want. That's what I'm saying. You know, it's starting working in my life and I cannot deny it.

[00:48:32] And I go, because you don't see it for y'all. So I say, you know what God, you know, I pray to. And I say, let me leave by example. Let me now become better in what I do.

[00:48:46] And music, well, I don't know what kind of music they made. God, I said, look, listen, you got labels, you got business, you got the duction company, you got studios, create new company. So inspiration, rock boy became the new company and I was like, I got a

[00:48:59] front of all this. So he said, no, you know, you're going to the arts. Sorry. He's happened developing you for over 20 something. Yes, to become this. And I say, wow. And I was like, can I do it? He said, yeah, you could do it. That's right.

[00:49:16] And I went in there and went to work and because it looked like me albums you got done. Five albums done so far. I believe. And we got just been putting them out, putting them out, putting records out, just weekly records and pulling up the system.

[00:49:31] I've got a plan for now for the top of the year all the way to next year. I believe. Now I start releases and music and coming. And then I was like, I need to be jumping on stage going to show you. Yeah, you do.

[00:49:43] Somebody got to say it. That's right. And you said, you're not going to have to run and do it the way that you think you're going to do it because now is a thing of where people think image wise.

[00:49:54] Like, yeah, do you know, you should get your Bible, you know, put your suit on, you know, you should look like a pastor when you come out and do your performance and stuff like that.

[00:50:02] And then I said to myself, if I do that, then who I'm going to appeal to? Yeah. And then God was like, no, this is how what you're going to do. You're going to stay you and you're going to go places you don't belong.

[00:50:15] You're going to be around people don't need to be around. You're going to do it so different. Yeah. And you're going to do the music that you was doing in that other world.

[00:50:23] If you're going to do it in my world, but your content is going to go in for I mean, all day, every day. And that's what's been happening and God has been so amazing because of the records I'm making.

[00:50:34] I think now the greatest records I've ever made in my life. That's what you're doing. I definitely fail you, man. I have a long on show. Wait. I spun on the show, whole another let. I did a DJ mix to it and all in. Oh, wow.

[00:50:50] My brother is just that type of energy. And because I've been around Christian hip hop now since 98. I've known with it. So with my own ministry and stuff like that. So I totally understand what you mean when God sits you alone and start pouring into

[00:51:10] you and telling you all of the things that you've been through is not in vain. It's for a specific purpose. And now you're actually living out the purpose. And then that's why you said you can reflect. It's even if bad things was going on.

[00:51:26] Some way somehow, God was keeping me. I'm evading and getting out of the situations and escape. Right. It's not just because of a coincidence. It's like, no, you're called to do it. You have a purpose. You have a calling on your life.

[00:51:43] And now like you're saying, you have music that you can release from now until whenever it's all because of God's plan and what he has to do. So now you're just walking in fulfillment of the predestination of what he really wanted to do through you.

[00:52:00] So I'm excited to see this for you, man. Yeah. And thank you, brother. And I get God to glory in all this because if you got like, this is the greatest feeling I ever had doing music. Wow. This is one of my greatest feelings.

[00:52:17] And you know, it made me more of a better person. It made me more closer to God now. I got to a place where now I have to go to Bible study because that want to do to the world more. I want to be taught more.

[00:52:31] I want to know more so I could say more to help someone, you know, to spice someone to come closer to God, you know? And I know now that God put a musician to be a leader, you know, he's like,

[00:52:44] look, listen, I want you to be a leader and I want you to lead that whole crew, those people that are separate from their comeback. But they're going to come back on different terms. Yeah.

[00:52:56] They're going to have to come back with a totally different level of respect for what we're standing at now and me. Yeah. And that's what I'm waiting to see on that note, but all I have to say in time,

[00:53:07] I said to myself, I said, wow God, I haven't felt this creative. And my imagination has not been running as well in a long time. So now I get up with a certain excitement. I afford to come in there. I look forward to having meetings.

[00:53:23] I look forward to Sunday service. I look forward to seeing my homework on meeting our church. And that's what I'm going to do is come. I don't know how to do that. That's God going to do the rest of you. You just show up.

[00:53:34] That's what you're going to do. Just show up. You like your day, I'm going to come because you actually may. You actually become a com. Yeah, this comes to show up. Hey, God, what do you want me to meet me down here?

[00:53:45] You know, so that's my new, that's my new way of pulling people closer to God and also doing music because right now what he has planned is amazing. It's amazing. So I can't wait. I can't wait to be touched with so many more people.

[00:54:04] You know, I know it was going to be challenging because that first I was working in fear because I didn't understand what was going on. It's the reality. Yes, it's all. Yeah, it was like, you know, you'd be a little scared of like, oh, you do this.

[00:54:19] Then this and then you lose the whole means and have I telling you that you're getting all into God and you know, I'm just into everything wrong. Well, God's saying that I need you to hear that because when these people leave they're

[00:54:33] all going, oh, wow, we left and look what this guy's doing. We need to go get on that. That's half but not for me. Yeah, God took for God. You know, so I'm excited to do that. That's what I'm excited for.

[00:54:46] You know, I just, I just, you know, walking the walk and I'm talking to talk and I live and I'm standing on it and I'm not turning around for me. That's good stuff, man. And Holy Spirit in Jesus and God the Father is back and you up.

[00:55:00] So when I talked to a brother earlier this week, he said, when God backs you up and he's behind the scenes just connecting hearts to the music. It's like you know you're in your purpose and it's not for your glory.

[00:55:15] It's for God's glory because so many people need to be touched. And unfortunately, content nowadays in music or just the internet and then of itself is so like not uplifting. It's just way people down is like God have something different to hear, to liberate,

[00:55:39] to set free, to revive, to refresh, you know, to a noine like. And if he's using vessels all across the, you know, and that's the question I want to hit you before we close out is, you know, God was leading you to start writing and stuff.

[00:55:57] But for you and your perspective, you wasn't necessarily thinking Christian rap. You were just being led in the music and what to write about. So where you exposed to Christian rap, did you know any Christian rappers in this?

[00:56:10] I know, what it was about at the end of the day. What is I'm just worried that now I'm just learning about the grade, busy with all these up. I'm just worried about these down. And it's going to be a great idea.

[00:56:24] I went into it from the heart, you know? And the interesting part about it, I can't sit down and write nothing every time I try to write a song, I can get it right because I get into things of over thinking. God, you know.

[00:56:42] I've worked back this thing in me that just, I call it the biggie small jazzy syndrome with put the mic on and just flow. And that's how the mereka's being made. That's a blessing. I said, wow, God, you're doing it like that's why they all just like, boom,

[00:57:00] but he's got a lot of things to do with you. Come on, we gotta go. Yeah, we've done work to do. So I had to start catching up, keeping up and getting ready. And not being afraid, falling in, you know?

[00:57:13] So when I jumped into it from the heart, you know, I said to myself, like everybody, like, you need to go to the church and do this. You need to go to the church and do that. Oh, oh, oh, oh. Fucking regrow into it, please.

[00:57:25] Then can I just first understand what's going on? It was going on. You know, because God is making these plans. Like, I'm quite sure he ain't telling you to tell me what to do because you don't come to church.

[00:57:38] So I don't want to be in church with you, you know? Yeah, I'm sitting there and I'm like, he's playing in that to these people, but then I said to God, I pray on in God and say, look, listen, don't worry about all that.

[00:57:52] Don't worry about none of this. Other stuff that just not important right now is the point is the purpose that I put you in and let me do my process with you and just walk with me. Just walk with me. That's good.

[00:58:06] So that's where I've been and that's where I met. And now that I'm like learning more about the community, learning more about the DJs, I'm learning more about you and learning more about it. Yeah, I'm so excited because it feels like I'm meeting my brothers.

[00:58:26] My sisters, you know, and Christ. So it's like, wow, wow. You know, so I'm excited. I'm here for you, too, brother. If you need me for anything, I'm just like, no, brother. I'm here for you. I feel you, man. I'm here for you as well.

[00:58:43] And that's the part about the community that we're so much excited about. I was talking with Trig who actually runs Holy Culture and he was saying to me when we were writing up to New York to go to because they actually have events in New York.

[00:58:58] One of them is Kingdom Time, Choice Award. So it's the Christian hip hop awards they had at last September. When we was writing up though, he was saying like, it just seems like God right now is pulling back the floodgate in blessings.

[00:59:14] Like when you're praying for fulfillment of the prayer comes a little bit quicker than what it used to be. And it's like the sensitivity that is God is planning something spectacular. We're all just playing our little roles, but ultimately he sees it from a higher view and

[00:59:34] just rolling it out. So when you finally seen the community and you're like, what? Yeah, it's just confirmation to say no, you're not alone because a lot of us will tell you when God started causing us to write wraps about God.

[00:59:50] We felt like we were the first Christian in the series. The very first, this is going to be awkward and strange. No, it's the plan of God in when he starts connecting like Voletron in the body.

[01:00:03] And then you actually do stuff together and it's like, this is what he was talking about. So that's the excitement man. Yeah, that's an excitement because it's like, wow. But now my, I do a lot of gigs. I do a lot of running around.

[01:00:19] Yeah, when I come on and perform, I feel like, first of all, we don't get God to glory. And when my show tape is set up, they look at that mean when I come off that stage, I think it was just something going on. Why?

[01:00:36] You're like, why not? I said, yeah, I said, why do you think I say, it's a whole nothing. Let's go to the car make promises to you. That's a whole nothing. Let's let you think of that because you do with this and you're doing that,

[01:00:49] which you get God in your life. That's a whole nothing. That's a whole nothing. That's a whole nothing. So I'm like, let's run with this. Let's go. So I push it. And when I see people like you, I need to get with you man.

[01:01:02] I said, well, if you're going to get with me, just know what I'm about. Don't come with the crazy. This is the I really don't got time to tell you that no more like that really something.

[01:01:13] Like, I'm really, really doing everything my part would make the thing of the past. Yeah. I feel good. That's having a pause situation. Paul was saying, yeah, because that's true. It's like I ain't trying to break people down. Trying to build people up. Yeah.

[01:01:29] We have enough other people doing that. You know, I ain't trying to help nobody in a work. I'm trying to do what God called me to do. And that's when I'm going to stand on. So you said, do you burn period? Yes. Yes. How did you say, period?

[01:01:45] Period. Period. That's the dope, miss of it. So what's coming up in the future? So you said you're going to start. You have your calendar ready and you're going to start unveiling more music. I guess you're going to start. Yeah.

[01:02:00] So what I've done top of the year, I started putting out records all the whole month. Every week I've been introducing new music to people. And this, this, this, this month of February, I've been doing the same March. I would be introducing a little bit more collaborations.

[01:02:19] Got short films I've been writing. I got a new app called a Let's Link Up App that I'm going to be launching the off-sume. And yeah, I got a lot of good things and I've set it up now.

[01:02:31] Some of the poor days are getting ready for software software. Because I'm going down here with the cloud. What's going on? Never seen before. I'm like, God, when I go down some of my stuff was this year, God, last, last, last. Last, last.

[01:02:48] So I can't wait to do that. You know, and then I just actually got two new artists that I'm going to afford to development up some things on inspiration for the way. Yeah. So yeah, it's a lot of great things is going on.

[01:03:02] And I'm just looking forward to sharing all this good information and sharing all these good energy, about and picking people up and allowing God to do what he called me to do. That's a blessing, man. I'm excited for you, man. I'm excited for you. Thank you.

[01:03:21] Everything that will be unveiled, we're saying of course the undertone is always to God be the glory. But he's working in you and we're excited to see that we're competing for you if they're on Instagram or if they want to go to the web,

[01:03:38] you know, you can drop it. Well, you can follow me on dupirrior.com and dupirrior.com has everything. My Instagram, my Facebook, my YouTube, it has everything. You just go to dupirrior.com. That's what's up. So we had DR in the house, you know, DR.

[01:03:57] You want to touch on anything before you get? Well, brother, I want to say thank you. And I like to send a prayer out to everyone for the Lord Jesus. Thank you for all you doing.

[01:04:07] I like we actually know the continue on doing the great work that you're doing and I like. We like you Lord. So allow people to grow in you and allow people to come to you and hear what we got to offer and the name of you Lord.

[01:04:20] And we thank you for everything that you're doing on life. Amen. Amen. Amen. Thank you all for tuning in. Make sure you follow up with DR, period, follow him on line of all his socials as well

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