1030. IJLMI: Into Influence

[00:00:00] What's up everybody? It's your girl, Lish Speaks. And welcome back to another episode of my podcast, I'll Just Let Myself In. It's the podcast where we don't wait for an imaginary permission slip or some seat at an imaginary table. We let ourselves into our God-given doors. And today, I have a guest. Now, I've been doing a bunch of solo episodes, so I hope that you guys have enjoyed those. But when I bring a guest on, you know I like to bring somebody who's going to add to the conversation.

[00:00:24] Someone who is already doing the very things we talk about here at this podcast, which is letting themselves in to their territory, to the thing that God has placed on them to do. And today, I have a guest who is doing just that. She has over 100,000 followers and subscribers across platforms. She makes content that really does move the needle in the fashion space.

[00:00:49] She's also on a show called Meet Boston on Nessun, where she goes around Boston and shows us what is cool to do in Boston. So if you ever visit in Boston, it's definitely a show you want to catch. But more than any of those things, what I love about this woman is that she is a creator who puts God first in everything that she does, while still making it very, very enjoyable for people who may not be there yet on their journey.

[00:01:17] And she's not only doing it herself, she's teaching others how to do it. Ladies and gentlemen, without further ado, Tiara Jones is in the building. Welcome. Thank you for having me. I'm excited to be here. I feel so honored. I'm so happy. Yeah, I'm glad that you're here. We've been trying to make this happen for a while. Years. Yeah. She lives in Boston. Years in the making. And I saw it. I was like, listen, girl, what you doing? You caught me at a good time now. I said, you know what? Let's make it happen.

[00:01:47] So I'm very excited to have you here. And, you know, the people who watch this podcast are people who really want to make something happen in the world. And most of them are faith based, but they want to make something happen outside of the four walls of the church. Right. And I think you do such a good job of not compromising your convictions while still creating content and experiences and relationships even with people who are on their journey. Right.

[00:02:17] And so I'm excited to talk to you about that today. Let me just say this, though. You're from Chicago. Yes. Shazelle! How in the world did you end up in Boston? I know, girl. Oh my goodness. So first of all, thank you for having me. That was so amazing. I feel like this podcast blesses so many people. And I know I be listening to it sometime when I need some wisdom. I'm like, let me, let me, let me speak. So, yeah, I feel like it's been such a journey. I grew up, I actually was born in Missouri. Okay.

[00:02:47] And then crazy stuff happened. Moved to Champaign-Urbana, Illinois. Then moved to Northwest suburbs of Chicago. And then I graduated high school early and moved to New York. Okay. And New York has been a place in my heart that God, God literally placed the city in my heart. Because even when I was a child, my uncle was like, oh, you sound like you're from Brooklyn. I loved so many, like, movies about New York. And it just was like the place I knew I wanted to kind of do my adulthood. Yeah.

[00:03:16] So anyways, moved to New York City in 2016. Funny enough, it has been 10 years since I moved to New York. Yeah. And it's crazy. I was thinking about that. I'm like, wow, like God brought me back at such a pivotal time. Yeah. So anyways, so moved here, went to college at the City College of New York. Yeah, yeah, yeah. City College. And then, you know. Period. You know what I'm saying? And from there, I got baptized in my sophomore year of college. And then I met my incredible husband. Hey, baby.

[00:03:45] Oh, and he's the reason why I'm in Boston. So we were dating, COVID love story, met him in 2019. Oh my God, I didn't realize you and Jimmy. We met 2021. Yeah. COVID. Yeah, same. Our whole first date, we have on masks. Wow. We have the pictures, we have on masks. Our first date. Oh my gosh. Crazy time. But, so I met him 2019 at a conference, started to get to know him. We started dating in June 2020. He proposed in June 2021. Period. And we got married October 2021. Wow.

[00:04:13] So I moved to Boston in January 2021 when I knew, I had a feeling that this was my husband, we were dating long distance at the time. Yeah. And I felt like I needed to surrender New York. Yeah. And be willing to move because it was hard for him to move here during the time. Like I had school remote, work, you know, didn't even have a job anymore. There's all this stuff going on. So I was the one that had the flexibility to move.

[00:04:40] So I felt God calling me to move to Boston and I did and I love it. Yeah. Crazy enough. And you've made major impact out there as well. So, you know, God definitely called you for that time. And I feel the same way about Atlanta for me. Like, I thought it was my forever place, but I think about what I was able to do while I was there and I was like, God, definitely. And I moved, I left New York in 2017. Wow. So when you, you came to Sydney, I was leaving. Right. That's when you was like, shit.

[00:05:08] And so I really do believe that God had, you know, for such a time as this kind of moment on my life in that season. I think it's been good. You being in Boston led to your creator journey. Yes. So you moving to Boston, I felt like really led you to being able to show people around you what there is to do for people like you in Boston. People who love fashion, people who love culture, people who love food, you know, being able to show that and not even being from there. Right.

[00:05:38] How does that feel for you? It feels crazy. And it's totally God because I never wanted to move to Boston. I never wanted to move to Boston. When I first visited my husband when we were dating, I went down there and I was like, yeah, this is boring to me. There's a lot of, actually, I'm not saying that, but the diversity wasn't there for me. I used to say that Boston was white people in Dunkin' Donuts. Oh, okay. Period. I forgot the show podcast. Yeah, yeah, yeah. White people in Dunkin' Donuts. And I just felt so, you know, I felt a little bit triggered because it was predominantly

[00:06:08] white because I grew up in a predominantly white area. Did you? My high school, yes. My high school was predominantly white. So when I moved to New York, I felt like I finally embraced, not that I didn't embrace my blackness then. I wouldn't say I finally embraced my blackness, but I felt like it was beautiful to be black. It was beautiful to have my hair. It was beautiful. You know, I had this whole experience because being one of maybe like 30 black people in my high school was very difficult for me. Oh, yeah. And I didn't always feel beautiful.

[00:06:38] I didn't always feel like the chosen girl because of that. Yeah. And so it was very hard. So when I moved to New York and, you know, obviously all attention is not good attention, but you know. The brothers. The brothers. This is what the- I said, right, right. I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna do it. Okay. I just felt so beautiful. But the thing that made me feel beautiful was the representation and seeing so many different people who look like me and they were wearing their hair around. It was everything for me. Yeah.

[00:07:07] And it was healing for me, especially as I was becoming a woman. Yeah. So when I went to Boston, I was like, God, this is not what I want from you. Yeah. This is not what I want from my life. Yeah. And God said, this is what you need. Well, you don't have found the black people in Boston because you be with them. I do be with them. I do be with y'all. And you know, so moving to Boston, it, God had so many blessings. Yeah. And it's like, it's so important to trust God. And even if it was something you didn't want to do, if you feel he's calling you to

[00:07:36] do it, to obey. Because where I am today was living in Boston six months, married within six months. Yeah. I mean, sorry, got engaged within six months of being there. Career has taken off. Yeah. Met amazing people, grew so much spiritually. Yeah. I literally feel closer to God now than I was when I lived in New York. Mm-hmm. And it was because of a lot of what I went through being in Boston. Yeah. So he had blessings waiting for me there. Yeah. I love that. I love that.

[00:08:06] I love that. Yeah. You know, I didn't know that you grew up that way. And it's so funny because one of the conversations my husband and I have had, you know, if the Lord blesses us with children is I have a big conviction about not raising black kids in white spaces. Yeah. Because I just, I've never seen it go well for someone. Yep. Everyone I know feels like you. Yep. They didn't feel beautiful. They didn't feel chosen. I had the complete opposite experience. I grew up around pretty much all black people.

[00:08:37] My principal, and so I went to the same school from K through eight. Mm-hmm. My principal was a PhD black woman. Come on. The entire time. Wow. So I don't even know what it's like for a black woman to not be educated and in charge. Wow. I have no frame of reference for that. Yeah. Like, you know what I mean? Jeez. It's all I know. Yeah. My teachers were black. I had a couple white teachers, but most of my teachers were black, male and female. And I went to the Frederick Douglass Academy for high school. Wow. So you already know what that was like. Yeah, yeah. In Harlem. Right. Come on.

[00:09:05] And in high school, I traveled to Africa for the first time and all the things. Oh, my goodness. And so I have a big conviction about that. Yeah. And I think it's because I'm dark-skinned too. But I have a big conviction about black women seeing themselves as wholly intelligent. Yeah. Wholly beautiful. And with that being said, I've had to confront my own internalized racism and internalized

[00:09:33] misogyny about my appearance. Right? Because we can say all the things, but then when you don't want to ever wear your own hair, you know? You gotta ask yourself. No, seriously. You gotta ask yourself why. No, seriously. If you don't ever want to leave the house without makeup. Right. You gotta ask yourself why. And I feel like this is something that you have been doing out loud in your content. Woo! You've taken us on a journey. Yeah. You wearing your natural hair and figuring that out.

[00:10:00] How did you come to the conclusion that it was time to kind of put down all the things that you felt like made you beautiful and step into your actual beauty? Mm-hmm. Because you are very beautiful. Thank you. As you are. So are you. Okay. Jimmy! See what you got over here! Oh, he knows. Listen. So I feel like God sometimes... Okay. Sometimes I'm very hard-headed.

[00:10:25] And I think God, him knowing me and my personality and my temperament, I go through a lot of intense things in order to learn the lesson, which sucks for me. I can relate. Sucks for me. So my hair started falling out. Actually, in the beginning of the year, I really felt like I needed to start embracing my natural hair, got my hair done at a Dominican salon, and hair damage. Yeah, I have a similar story. Whole situation.

[00:10:53] We ain't got to give them too much air time. Yeah. After that, found a hairstylist that specializes in natural hair. She cut my hair into a beautiful bob, love the bob. And unfortunately around middle of April, I started having some... My hair started thinning, breaking off, and I had an allergic reaction. Funny enough, I'm allergic to olive oil, which is like in every hair, in most products, especially for hair. I found out about my allergy when I was a child, because that was the first time that

[00:11:23] we found out. And so with that being said, I started losing a ton of hair. Hair was thinning. And I had to either get a perm and do a pixie or have my husband cut it off for me, and he cut it off for me. Yeah. So this journey has been incredible, surprisingly enough. Like, it was so freeing when he was cutting it off. Yeah. Just being able to do my hair in less than like an hour. Mm-hmm.

[00:11:50] And also being able to fall in love with the features God has given me. And, you know, it's still challenging at times. Like when I don't have it slicked down, makeup on, earrings on, I can be like, ooh. I ain't trying to look like a little boy. Listen, I'm a woman! I'm a woman! You know? And I think God is really still teaching me, you know, even without earrings, without makeup. Like, I haven't gotten to the point where I'm like, oh, coming outside. I mean, I went outside without makeup with my hair, but I still feel a little bit insecure.

[00:12:20] So it's a journey. But God is showing me to unlearn the old ways of how I defined beauty and to, you know, relearn what it means to be beautiful and really finding my identity in Christ and also just not focusing so much on the outward appearance. I think we focus so much on the outward appearance because you can have a beautiful face, a fire fit, and an ugly soul, and an ugly attitude.

[00:12:48] And honestly, that is just not beautiful in God's eyes. Yeah. You know, how we treat people. And that's a whole other... Girl, don't get me started. But yeah, that's how that journey goes. Get started. That's how that journey been. I love it. I love it. And when you look at, you know, what you do for a living, being in fashion, showing up online. It was so funny. I was at a concert the other day and I saw someone three rows ahead of me watching her content. I sent her, she's like, oh my girl, I'm at this concert. She's watching this.

[00:13:16] You know, and I love that because you're showing up in a way and people are, the people are receiving it. Yes. What type of self work do you do to show up online in the boldest of colors? You know, she'd be walking across the street looking like a model, honey. Like she in a movie. Come on. Tyra. Call me. Call her though. No, for real. I'm trying to make it. Okay.

[00:14:07] Okay. So, I went to New York and I get so excited every year for fashion week. I'm like, I'm going to put this on. I'm going to put that on. We going to do fattles. We going to do ruffles. We going to do it all. And God had a conversation with me coming back where it's like, this is how you like to dress. You don't have to wait for fashion week. Yeah. You know what I mean? And I was like, wait for real? I don't got to wait for fashion week. Like I can just put that on and cross the street and go on grocery shopping. And it's like, yes.

[00:14:37] He's like, yes, this is who you are. You love this stuff and that's okay. And I've loved fashion since I was a child. And I feel like sometimes when we become a Christian, we feel like we just got to let it all go. And you know, you can't do this. You can't do that. But God has created us in a specific way where it's like, you have passions. You have things that you really enjoy and he put that in you. Yeah. And for me, that was it. Fashion is something that I really love and enjoy. Obviously, God has to come first, but he had that conversation.

[00:15:06] You know, me and God had this conversation and I came back to Boston and I felt like, I don't need to blend in. I want to dress up. Boston is very, you know, people wear black, white, navy blue. They love when they go out, they have a black top with a denim and a van. That's it. And a backwards baseball cap. Right. And that's it. And that's fine. Love that for you. But I do not have to be like that in order to be received here.

[00:15:35] I can show up authentically in my colorful big, you know, floral top or rosette top or abstract shirt or whatever. And that's okay. And I think God has been helping me to realize it's okay to be you. It's okay to, you know, like these things and to stand out. And I think knowing that God has approved of me has given me the confidence to go out and put whatever I want to wear on. Yeah. Not, you know, modest, but also stylish. Yeah. So yeah. Yeah. Let's talk about this modest piece. Y'all don't want to hear this though.

[00:16:04] Y'all don't want to hear this. I'm telling y'all y'all don't. Cause y'all don't. Y'all don't. They don't want to hear it. They don't want to hear it. And I understand why, but yeah, let's talk about it because I think that you've done, you've done a great service online for the Christian girlies, for the Christian girly pops. Right. Right. Who want to put it on, but are also trying to find their way. And I think it's also really cool because we have people, you know, for better or worse, Christianity is trendy right now.

[00:16:34] Right. So we have people who are really trying to make their way out of the worldliness of their character or of their life into some form of godliness. Right. And it is difficult to just make a leap, you know? And that's why I think a lot of people do just lose all their fashion. Or if you're in the music industry, you'll stop doing music or if you act, you'll just stop acting. And it's the reason why a lot of Christians are miserable. Oh. Oh.

[00:17:01] It's the reason why a lot of people in ministry are really struggling mentally. Yeah. Ask me how I know. It's because you became a Christian and then if you went to leadership, my Lord, you went to leadership and then you left everything, every other hobby, every other talent. Why do you think the Bible told us Jesus was a carpenter? Right. Cause it's okay to do other things. Yep. It's okay. That's a battle I've been fighting for decades.

[00:17:28] You know, it's okay to be in ministry and also do other things really, really well. Right. Um, and so I think that you are a great example of that, but. Thank you. Let's talk about how you view modesty. Mm. Okay. Because I know that there are people online who don't always agree with everything you're wearing. Right. How you put it on, how you walk in it. Right. Right.

[00:17:53] So how do you view modesty and how do you teach that to, to some of the younger girls coming up? Absolutely. Before Christ. I love the deep V, honey, plunging deep V. To the depths. No, seriously. It's everything. You better see this breast girl. And you know, we gotta be grown. You know, and, um, there was so much work I had to do, but it really wasn't me. It was God and the spirit. Yeah.

[00:18:22] My first encounter with people about modesty was very much about, you know, you don't want to make the brothers struggle and, you know, somebody tapped me. Yuck. I hate it. Cause that's not what it's about. Oh, I'm finna freak. It's not about that at all. That's not what it's about. That's not what it's about. You're weird. Right. Figure it out. Yeah. So there was a lot of conversations like that about modesty.

[00:18:49] And I think it's easy for modesty to become about people and not about God. Yeah. And this is the thing that God has been teaching me is it's about holiness. My mindset about modesty is he wants us to be set apart. It doesn't mean you can't have a colorful top. It doesn't mean you can't be beautiful and have a nice dress and have a nice outfit. When you look at the Proverbs 31 woman, I love to quote this because people think modesty

[00:19:17] is wearing a cardigan and a sand skirt to the ankle. Baby, that's not the only way. If you let it, I'll let it for you. Right. But that's not the only way. And that's, yeah. Yeah. And so for me, I've made modesty about being holy because that's what it is about. It's about being holy. It's about being set apart. It's about God. Yeah. And it also is about how we present ourselves as Christ ambassadors.

[00:19:44] Before I'm a Tiara, the Boston content creator, I am Tiara, the follower of Christ. Yeah. Christ's ambassador. Right. And I think when it comes to how I present myself, I do want to be dressed well. Yeah. Every time. You know what I mean? And you know, I'll put on some sweats, baby, and a t-shirt with a hole on it if I need to run some errands and that's fine. But for the most part, I do like to be dressed well and I do love to, you know, have fun with fashion and dress up.

[00:20:10] But it's always about making sure I'm honoring God in everything that I do. And I think the issue we have with modesty is people make it about other people and the male gaze when it's not about that. It's really rooted in, okay, how can I honor God in every way? And how can I make sure that I'm reflecting Christ? Yeah. I'm going through Proverbs currently. Mm-hmm. And even today in Proverbs 7, it talks about, you know, in Proverbs, it talks a lot about the adulterous woman, the immoral woman and all that.

[00:20:38] Today, I read Proverbs 7 and it said, it was talking about the immoral woman and, you know, her character, but before it got to her character, it said she was dressed seductively. Mm. And so it's like, as a woman of God, we want to make sure with how we're dressed, this is the first type of interaction somebody's going to have with you. They looking at how you're dressed. Yeah. It does matter. Yeah.

[00:21:03] And certain clothing does reflect the seductive woman and not the Proverbs 31 woman that's dressed in fine linen. Right, right. And purple gown. Right, right. So I think that's kind of where I've been at it. Yeah. I feel like modesty is a very touchy subject. It is. And it's, you know, God doesn't want you to hate your body. Let's just say that. Yes. He loves your body, your curves. He created all that. Mm-hmm. And hopefully your husband will enjoy it too. Amen. Hallelujah.

[00:21:34] Ain't nothing wrong with a low curve. Right, okay. But yeah, so that's my view on it. Yeah, I'm still learning and I just, I'm thankful that God has put it on my heart because I used to hate that whole modesty conversation. Yeah. It was so triggering. But now that I'm starting to get it, I understand why. And also when I wore things that were revealing, I always felt uncomfortable. Mm-hmm. Man looking and it was very uncomfortable for me. Mm-hmm. So I digress. Yeah, yeah. Keep going. I love that. I think too, it's so important.

[00:22:01] I'm so happy for this generation of girls because I think it was very dangerous to be taught that it was your responsibility to make sure that the men around you are not struggling. Yeah. You know? Yeah. It was almost like they have no self control and they have no responsibility in this. Right. And although I think, especially if you're going into a Christian place. Yeah. Exactly. You should not be, you know, dressing a certain way.

[00:22:29] I also think it's important for young girls to know that the parts of your body that are out of your control. Right. Are not for you to go crazy trying to cover up. Right. You know? Like for instance, when I was leading a team ministry a couple years ago in Atlanta, there was a girl, she was, I won't even say details about her, but there was a young girl, really long, beautiful legs. Right? She would wear shorts. Mm. And at one point she was up on stage for something and someone had kind of like an issue.

[00:22:59] And I'm like, she just has long legs. Right. Nothing is showing. Right. Nothing is out. You don't see her booty. She's a teenager. Right. So you might need to check why you have an issue with this. Right. And I'm not talking to her about it. And I took a stand. I'm not. Yeah. Cause you know, they're going to come to you the leader. Right. You need to talk to, I'm not talking to nobody. I'm not telling that girl that she can't wear these shorts cause you got an issue with it. Right. I'm not doing it. You know what I mean? And it just was what it was.

[00:23:27] It went to the higher leadership and I told them the same thing and they eventually agreed with me. I'm like, she's a teenage girl wearing a pair of shorts. Right. You know what I mean? We got to stop. Yeah. No, we do. At some point, the men have to talk to each other. Yep. And say, why are you? It's just like this, this, uh, there's this creator that I love. I don't know his name, but he makes this song about how if your girl children have to

[00:23:54] change their clothes because your family member is coming to the house, maybe that family member shouldn't be coming to the house because yeah, what are we doing? Right. These are kids, you know? And so I just think it's really important that we have a balanced of conversation. Of course. Absolutely. Cause not everything we were taught was wrong. Right. Right. But it definitely wasn't all correct. Right. You know, and especially for the young girls, more than anything to be taught to be modest for the sake of Christ. Right.

[00:24:23] To be modest in service to Christ, you know, I think is more valuable, long lasting. Yes. Then don't do this because you don't want to make a man lust. Cause it's gonna, that turns people away from God. Yeah. It turns people away from coming to church. Cause I do remember certain instances of how extreme people would get about you tapping somebody at church. Are they going, where are they going to change it? Yeah. Where's the clothes? You got a, you got a shirt with you. Yeah. Or a pair of jeans, which you, you know what I mean? Yeah.

[00:24:52] So I think that, um, I would also like to say this, the first commandment is to love your Lord, your God with all our heart, our soul, our mind. I'm, you know, messing up a little bit, but sometimes we make modesty more of a conversation than actually if this person over here is not being loving to the next person, they gossiping about this person, they doing this, they doing that, but you are talking about somebody. Yeah.

[00:25:16] Well it's, it's, it's our nature as people to make the tangible sin that we see more important than the sin you can't see the heart sense. Yeah. Where's the sin of the heart? No joke. No, seriously. The Lord says you will not inherit the kingdom of God. Yeah. Like it's real. Yeah. But we want to make the sins you can see, you know, just like I tell people, even as someone who's a Christian, who's overweight, you know, this is a sin you can see. Hmm.

[00:25:46] But there are sisters, brothers, people who eat way more than me, but they just don't, they don't metabolize the way that I do. Right. So if you're going to talk to me about greed, we got to talk to everybody about greed. Right. Like, you know, I'm like, come on, Liz. All right. No, seriously. And I got factors in my refrigerator. Right. Right. You know what I mean? Like I'm working on it, but I think that it's just easier to talk about the sin that you can see. Yeah. You know? And so I think it's important to have those conversations and to be someone who people

[00:26:16] can look to and be inspired by in that way. I love that you have real brand partnerships. And I say real because, you know, we be having brand partnerships sometime that, you know, just be us doing stuff for free. Right. And that happens. And that's okay. You need to build. Yeah. But you got real checks in the mail, net 90, net 30. We need them nets to get together. But the nets, cause y'all be going to lie with the nets. They do.

[00:26:44] But you have real partnerships and you have gone after them yourself. You have an agency now, I believe. Yes. I'm signed to an agency. But there was a time where you were not. And I think that this is really important information. Okay. Because I think we have a lot of Christian influencers. Yeah. I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that. Who don't know how to get out of the Christian faith-based advice, preachy bubble, to be appealing

[00:27:09] to a Macy's, to a Walmart, to a Dunkin' Donuts, to a, I can't, I don't even want to, you, all these people that you've worked with, right? Dove, right? To a, all the people that you done work with. She done work with the people, y'all. Right. Thank you. How are you doing that? And what advice would you give to those of us who do keep God first in our content, but also want to appeal to broader audiences? Right. Absolutely. Let me take notes, Shav, because...

[00:27:38] Get your pen up again. I gotta get my pen. Grab that pen. I just posted a video recently where I was sharing how, even though you are a Christian, you don't actually have to post Christian content. Mm-hmm. If you feel God has called you to do that, then you need to do that. Okay, because he's called me to do that too. Yeah. So it's like, that's something that I have to do. You can do both. But you absolutely can do both. And I think for me, I like to hold onto the verse that says, you know, so we love you so much.

[00:28:07] We delighted to share with you not only the gospel, but our lives as well. And so I think through sharing the gospel and my life, I've been able to gain these partnerships. And I also will say having faith with deeds. Mm-hmm. A lot of people, you know, I've had conversations with other Christian creators and they're like, oh, I'm waiting for God to bring the partnerships. Mm-hmm. He will bring them. You have to work too. Yeah, yeah. You actually need to pitch. Yeah.

[00:28:35] You actually need to tag brands in your content. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Because that's because she's talking to me, y'all. I know. Hold on, hold on. So you can give, you know, the word that God has put on your heart to the people while also going ahead and taging a brand and saying my shirt is from Walmart. Yeah. Right. My lip gloss is actually a Mac. Right. You know what I mean?

[00:29:05] Earrings is from, you know, Lovisa. Yeah. You know, all of that. So I think it's a balance. And I think more people desire to see how Christians are actually living their life. Mm-hmm. And I feel like because we, if you only show one side, it will also limit you if this is your career. Yeah. Because for me, I do this full time. I've been doing this full time for almost two years. It'll be two years in October. Mm-hmm. And so I like to have a balance in my content where I'll have something where I share about, you know, modesty, modest style, something faith-based.

[00:29:35] Then I talk about my lifestyle. Mm-hmm. This is what I'm doing in Boston. Here's a Boston blog. I'm doing a series right now, my summer bucket list series, taking people along in Boston. And through sharing that, I've been able to work with these brands because they see, okay, you don't just post about God. Yeah. And I feel like, yeah, that's what you can do. Yeah. Yeah. I love that. I think that it's difficult sometimes for some of us because we did not get online with

[00:30:00] the intention of virality or becoming what we became. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Like, for me, I was giving advice online for years before I had a viral video. Mm-hmm. So I think I had gotten to the point where I'm like, this ain't really gonna go nowhere, but I'm just gonna chat. Right, right, right. You know? And now that things have gone a little, a place or two, I feel like I'm getting stuck in just giving advice. Right.

[00:30:30] Even, you know, off camera, we talked about, I've become so used to now only showing my body from the torso up that now I'm like, I don't know if fearful is the right word, but there's some insecurities about me even showing my outfits and showing my clothes. Mm-hmm. Because I love clothes. Y'all know I love clothes. I love clothes. I love makeup. She has an incredible closet. I got all the things. Right, right, right. But it's so, it feels awkward for me. Mm-hmm. So how would you encourage somebody like me, who is a Christian, who does Christian content,

[00:30:59] who wants to be inspirational, who doesn't necessarily want to make it about the material things. Right. To start trying to show up with some of those things online. Mm-hmm. What are some like baby steps you would give? I love to share, you know, doing a get ready with me. Okay. Like I told Lish, you know, film yourself. I'm not getting a camera. To help her. You know, film yourself, you know, doing your makeup. Okay. Okay.

[00:31:24] And doing things that you do on a day-to-day basis, that's the best way to slowly integrate lifestyle content, beauty content in addition to your faith-based content. Yeah. And I think doing, I think filming yourself doing things you're already going to do is easy. It doesn't feel like, oh, this is extra work. If you know you're going to do your makeup because you're getting ready to go to the city, film yourself doing your makeup. Yeah. And when it comes to even editing, I would say, okay, give yourself a time limit. Okay. I filmed this video. Boom. I've done that.

[00:31:53] I have these clips. I got one hour to edit and post. Yeah. And that's it. And I feel like when you limit yourself on how much time you have to do it, it'll help you to be more efficient. Yeah. And that's what I had to do. And I think for me, I really had to, I had to take it seriously because I saw other people that had what I desired. And I think for most of us, like we do want to do this, you know, full time. Yeah. We want to be able to work with these brands and we want to be a light in this space. Yes. This space needs more Christian influencers.

[00:32:23] And I don't mean solely people that have, you know, a faith-based account, but also people that create content that are just Christians. Mm-hmm. Because how you carry yourself in this space will help other people to see Christ and know Christ and know like, oh, being a Christian isn't just weird. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. That kind of weird, like unattractiveness that Christianity has sometimes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. And so that's what my advice would be. Yeah. Film yourself doing stuff you already do. Okay. Set a time limit to... You like dang that.

[00:32:52] I know, I know. Go ahead, go ahead. Set a time, you know, time limit for you to edit and schedule it. Mm-hmm. And create a reoccurring schedule so that you can make it happen. Because I think that, you know, sometimes we think we have more time than we do. Yeah. We don't know how much time God's been giving you to do what he's told you to do. Clock it. So... Hey. That's good. No. And I appreciate your conviction. I think, you know, from the conversations that we've been having now for like two years,

[00:33:19] you and I have been chitting and chatting about these things. Literally. I know. I gave her a card today that I had for her that I had not mailed. From 2020. The doggone cards from 2024. Which is crazy. We thank you. It's like, listen. But you've given me so much advice between now and then. And I've grown on different platforms and gotten more serious about, you know, YouTube and different things like that.

[00:33:42] And I think that it is really a plot of the enemy to get people like me to stifle ourselves. Because he knows that I'm having this revelation in real time as I was listening to you talk. He knows that we can reach a grand audience for Christ. And so he will make you so fearful, so insecure, so overly critical of yourself.

[00:34:13] Absolutely. To stop you from walking through your God given door. So I think for me, and if you're like me out there, there's just a level of conviction that we have to grow. You talked about like, you just took it seriously. I think for me there's level of conviction that I need to grow in to understand that I did what God called me to do. Right. So far. Right. And now he's calling me to do more. Will I obey? Right. You know, because there was a time where I wasn't even doing what I'm doing now. You know, it's like people were like, now girl, when are you going to start making videos?

[00:34:42] I've told this story before. My brother Trey, who has over a million followers on TikTok. I think he has a million on Instagram. You know, over 100,000 subscribers, I believe, on YouTube, doing his big one. He told me before the pandemic in a Bible talk, I was talking. Afterwards, he pulled me to the side. He said, you need to start talking online. He told me this before. This is before he had all these followers. Come on. He was just chilling.

[00:35:13] You know what I mean? Right. And I have literally watched him out of here. You know what I mean? Partnerships with everybody you could think of. Wow. And he was in your Bible talk. Help us. Right. And so I'm like, okay, now are you going to have that happen again? Because somebody who's doing it is telling you what to do. Yep. And I feel like you talking to me now. And so now I'm like, I'm going to listen to you. I'm going to listen.

[00:35:40] So I want to go back to Faith Without Dees because you talked a little bit about, listen, you can want the partnerships all you want, but if you're not doing the work, it ain't going to come. How is your conviction about the deeds not becoming selfish ambition? Woo. Because I feel like that's so hard. I feel like a lot of times, you know, the Faith Without Dees, we can think we're being pious by not doing the deeds because the deeds to us signify selfish ambition. How do you balance that out?

[00:36:10] Day by day. Day by day. And if I'm honest, I think that it's very easy whether you are in the influencer industry, the entertainment industry, no matter what, it's easy for things to become about you getting the glory versus God getting the glory. You becoming famous versus God being, you being able to show what he's doing in your life. Yeah. And so it's a hard battle. And it's also a battle that Satan knows that we have. And sometimes he'll be like, well, you're not even doing it for God.

[00:36:40] So why are you, why should you even post this? And I have faced this and I've talked about it with my husband and a husband that sat me down and been like, don't you remember in 2023 when you heard what God, God told me, he, he audibly heard God tell me what to do. Yeah. And so for the last three years, I've been going back and forth and back and forth. And the growth that I even have now is only because I have done what God has told me to do and been obedient with the deeds.

[00:37:07] And so I think that the, to not make it a selfish ambition thing, it's a thing of the heart where you got to get on your knees. I've been getting on my knees, on my face. Yeah. Praying. Because at the end of the day, you want to hear well done, good and faithful servant. It don't matter about the followers. It don't matter about the likes. It don't matter about the brand deals. None of that. Yeah. So I think it's something that if you do this, when you start doing a brand deals and when you start growing, our humility has to increase. Yeah.

[00:37:37] We have to be very humble and very dependent on God. And recently I was reading, you know, I'm going through the book of Proverbs, like I said, and just reading the seven things that God hates. Yes. The first thing was haughty eyes. I have overlooked this so many times. And I realized, I said, God, this is me sometimes. Mm-hmm. I have become arrogant. It's very easy to become arrogant when people are treating you like a celebrity. Yeah. And, you know, all this kind of stuff.

[00:38:07] So God has really helped me to realize I need to be humble. I only have what I have because of you. Yeah. And so I think doing the faith with deeds, you have to have the faith, but do the deeds with the Lord. Still ask the Lord, help me to do the deeds. Yeah. I know that I need to do the deeds and I can't just have the faith and believe. So help me to do it and help me to have a pure heart doing it. That's something I try to pray.

[00:38:32] Create in me a pure heart, oh God, to do your will, you know? Yeah. But it's a battle. Yeah. And I think a lot of Christians have made it more about them getting the glory than God getting the glory. And it's something I battle with too regularly. Yeah. And I think if we go to the Lord and we, you know, crucify that selfish ambition, then that's the only way to do it. You have to crucify it. Yeah. That's good.

[00:39:00] I think for me, one of the things I try to do when it comes to, you know, when I started doing red carpets and interviewing celebrities and when my show got on Sirius XM and all the things, God has kept people around me that don't care. Hmm. And at first I felt a little bit of a way about that. Like I have people who I'm very close to who it's been like a year since they've said, I watched the episode recently. It was so good. I don't know if they watch the podcast or not. I don't think they do because they would say something if they did. You know what I mean?

[00:39:28] I have people who never repost anything I do. People who I love dearly. Yeah. You know? And I was thinking one day, I think God is doing that on purpose. It's not a matter of them hating or nothing like that. They love me. That's very clear. Right, right, right. I've never questioned. But it's so that you understand that this don't actually matter. They love you because they love you. Woo! They don't love you because your show got picked up on Sirius XM. Right. Or because you interviewed Kirk Franklin. Right. No, they don't care.

[00:39:54] I think it's so important for us to remember to keep the main thing the main thing. Woo! You know? This is not real. Yeah. Even the material stuff. Yeah. I love a shopping trip. Yeah. Damn. Okay. Listen. Me too. I've been thinking about going on the pairs. But I be telling myself- We need to go to Japan. I be telling- We'll talk. Okay. We'll talk over camera. Yeah, hold on. I'm definitely going. Right.

[00:40:23] But I be telling myself like, girl, this stuff could burn in a fire tomorrow. No, seriously. What I would tell y'all, my TikTok account had got hacked a year ago. I remember this. And yesterday I got a notification about something I can't keep- I can't be sharing links or my account can be restricted. My TikTok account got hacked before as well. And that was so sobering for me because that was my platform- my biggest platform. At the time, yeah. At the time. And I was like, what am I going to do? I was doing brand partnerships.

[00:40:52] Couldn't even get paid from one of my partnerships because it was hacked. Mm-hmm. And I couldn't get it back for like probably two, three, four weeks. I remember. And it helped me to realize that he gives, he can take away. Yeah. And it also helped me to realize, you know, what does it say? There's a scripture that talks about- it's just, you know, it's just these things are so fleeting. Yeah. They're temporary. Exactly. And I just, I think that keeping that in mind helps you as God elevates you. Yeah.

[00:41:21] I do believe God wants to take us higher so that we can reach more people in these places. Yeah. But in order for you to be ready for that, you have to have the right heart posture. Yeah. And I think that's why I have not, I haven't grown as fast as I feel like God would have allowed me to grow. Cause he's like, I'm gonna give you- You gotta catch up. I'm gonna give you this. I think I'm experiencing some of that. Yeah. He said, cause you, you not really ready for that. Yeah. Cause I think you might not even be with me. Yeah. Catch up.

[00:41:50] If you get up there, you gotta catch up spiritually to what I'm doing. Yeah. You gotta catch up spiritually to what I'm doing. I think that's so, yeah, that's so good. That's so good. I want to talk very briefly about marriage. Love you baby. You've been married for five years. Yes. Right. And I think that, you know, my followers always love a good love story. Aww. But even more than that, I think, you know, how old were you when you got married? Twenty-five. Twenty-three. Twenty-three. Twenty-three when you got married. Mm-hmm. And so I always talk with women who are older.

[00:42:20] Mm-hmm. Yes. Who are waiting. You know, who've had to watch younger people get married. And who... It's good though. Yeah. You know, I wouldn't say I wouldn't change it. Mm-hmm. I wouldn't change it. Yeah. I would wait for my husband another 35 years. Yeah. I'd marry that man at 70. Happy. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Because I think that there are so many benefits of being older. Oh, yeah. So as you've aged in your marriage, what are some of the things that 28-year-old Tiara would do different than 23-year-old Tiara was doing as a wife? Ooh.

[00:42:50] Yes. Oh my goodness. Being 28... I'm so... First of all, I'm so excited to turn 30. 30? The owner, baby! I'm a baby! 30-o! I'm so excited to be a child. But from the relationships I have, my friends that are in their 30s, I'm like, I can't wait. I'm ready to turn 40 now. I'm ready. I can't wait to be 40. For real? I'm like, I can't... Because I'm going to be a Tara. No. You aren't ready. Period. You know? But I can't wait. But I would tell my younger self to prepare more.

[00:43:20] Okay. So many people want to rush and get married. Mm-hmm. You going to be struggling with that same stuff if you don't figure it out right now. It's true. Yeah. I wish I would have saved more. Yes. I wish I saved more money. Girl! I wish I would have saved more. I wish I would have worked on some of my financial habits that I've now taken into this marriage. And now we, you know, we're not struggling terribly, but we're figuring it out. But we're figuring it out now because I didn't figure it out. Mm-hmm.

[00:43:48] There are things that God wants us to do when we're single that will greatly benefit you and propel you when you get married. Mm-hmm. You know, allow yourself to get prepared. Mm-hmm. This is what I would have told Lil T. Lil T. I was ready to get married. You know? I would have told myself, you know, prepare more. Yeah.

[00:44:17] Invest a little bit more in your relationships and allow that man to really get to know your people. Mm-hmm. And I feel like when you do a long distance relationship, sometimes it's very hard. Maybe you can relate. Oh, no. I was on his head. Oh, period. I gave him a list of people he had to meet and had to be close to. Period. Period. Period. But that's because I was 30-something. Yes, right. I can tell you. And for me, so much was happening. I lost my dad. Literally, the month, actually, a few weeks after me and my husband started dating, I lost my dad.

[00:44:47] Oh, I'm so sorry. Thank you. My last conversation with my dad was me telling him, oh, I found my husband. And I thank God that I told him because I feel at peace. Yeah. He knew. I was married. You know what I mean? So, I'm thankful. But I really would have invested that time when my husband would come to see me making sure we're getting time with other people. Yeah. I feel like you need community when you're married. It was also COVID. So, give us some grace. And it was also during COVID.

[00:45:17] Yeah, yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. Not just when you're single, but also when you're married. Yes. And then when you have kids. Yes. You always need people. So, prioritize community with your spouse. Yeah. You know? Are you doing that now? Absolutely. Okay, good. How is that? I'm actually... Oh, go ahead. Yeah, no, go ahead. How do you feel about it? But go ahead. Tell them. I feel thankful. I feel like I've learned over the last two years, especially with me and my husband, we've moved a lot over the last two years. And now we're stationary.

[00:45:47] We know where we want to live right now. Yeah. Yeah. But prioritizing community and spending time with other couples is so fruitful. Yes. People knowing what's going on in our lives. Yes. Being able to call us higher. No judgment. No judgment. Doing life with them. I'm actually hosting a... It's called Marriage Summer Camp. Okay. So, yes. What is it? So, actually... Oh my God, I don't know what y'all doing. I am. I'm gonna send information. I'm gonna send information. We got one room left. So, August 6th through the 9th. Okay.

[00:46:16] So, me and five other couples are going to Vermont. I was able to get some sponsorships. Okay. That's the thing. I'm so excited because this is something I've wanted to do for years. I've always wanted to be able to go on a group trip with couples and have fun and, you know, kind of like, why did I get married? Yes. In a healthy version. Yes. You know what I mean? What we're just enjoying. Yeah. So, you know, we're going away. We're gonna do like grilling, swimming, just fun activities with other adults that are in the same life stage. I love that. And I just... I'm thankful. You know what I mean? And I feel like...

[00:46:45] I think when I lived here and me and Evans just started dating, I feel like I was kind of focused on so many other things versus like really fostering that community. And I realize the importance of it and it's something that I will never take for granted. Yeah. I love that. Yeah. And I think that's great advice. You know, it is important that your person knows your people. No, absolutely. Because it'll help them know you better. And they'll understand certain things about you and vice versa. And you know, that's not always easy to do, even not long distance. Exactly. Sometimes it's just not easy to do.

[00:47:15] Exactly. But if you can do it, you know, be sure to do it. And my husband said he felt like I put him through the gauntlet because I was like... He was like, I never met a person with more best friends. Yeah. I had 10 women in my wedding. Wow. So, I mean, two of them was his sisters. Oh, okay. I had eight women in my wedding. But he had to get to know them. My cousins and their husbands and my uncle. Like, I'm like... Because I knew that... I loved my husband very early. Mmm. Very early I loved him.

[00:47:43] Four months in, I was like, I'm in love. Oosh. And I knew I didn't have the wherewithal to call myself out of it if it wasn't right. Mmm. I was too happy. I was being loved too well. Yeah. I was... My husband's been taking care of me since he could. Like, he's like, I got it. Don't worry about it. You got it. I'm taking care... And not just financially, emotionally, you know? And I needed that. Right. And so I needed other eyes to tell me if he was crazy or not. Right. To tell me if he was spiritual or not. Absolutely.

[00:48:13] Like, and I had those eyes and I still have those eyes. Right. Yep. And it's so helpful. And it also, single women, hear this. That lets you know if a man is willing to be corrected. Mmm. Because if you are dating a guy and you can't get him to get in community with nobody... Yeah. Guess what? When he starts laughing, you already? Figuratively or literally, you can't call nobody. Hello? You need to know that the man is teachable, coachable. Yeah.

[00:48:43] He can get rebuked. Yeah. He can be humbled. It's important. I will say, yes, absolutely. Even though Evan and I weren't super involved in each other's communities, we still got in that time. Yeah, you knew, yeah. And I knew. And one thing I will say is, it's so important that when you go into their space or people who know of them, that they have great things to say about them and their character and their walk. Yes.

[00:49:08] And that's what also confirmed in my heart that he was one because everybody I met that knew him, he said, oh, he's amazing. I love him. Oh, I love him. Oh my gosh. Same. And it was like, wow. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So I feel like that is so important. Yeah. I think just what you were saying about waiting, it's so important to wait for the right one. Yeah. And I will say that with my husband, I prayed and I told God, don't let me date nobody unless they my husband. I prayed. I literally had this conversation with my best friend yesterday. Girl. I prayed at the doggone church. Oh yeah.

[00:49:38] I said, God, if this marriage is going to end in divorce, just cancel this wedding right now. Wow. I'm talking about bridesmaids was upstairs. I'm sitting down. That's real. Cancel that. Yep. I'll be heartbroken, but I don't have time to play. I don't have time to be out of your will. No, seriously. I prayed that in my whole relationship. We used to pray together and I would pray. Wow. He used to be like, yo, she was praying me away in my face. Like I'm sitting right here. We laugh about it now, but I was- But you was not playing. No, cause I didn't have time. I had waited so long. Oh yeah. I don't have time.

[00:50:06] And my dream was to make sure that me and my husband were not the struggling couple. Mmm. Like I didn't, that's for real. Like that was, I'm like all my friends are happily married. No, seriously. Not perfect marriages, but very happily married. Yeah. I'm not messing up the group trip. I'm not gonna be the reason we can't have a group chat. Right. Cause I done married a fool who can't get with it. Right. You know? And so these prayers are very, very important.

[00:50:30] And making sure that, like you said, the people around him, people were like, we could not understand why Jimmy was still single. We're so happy. I actually heard about that too. Before y'all- Yes. Everybody was like, we couldn't understand it. We could understand it. And when I met him, I couldn't understand it either. I said it had to be God. Yeah. He hit it. He hit him. God hit him. I knew that he was supposed to be, he was, I always say, I knew that he was supposed to be either my husband, my best friend or my business partner.

[00:51:00] Now he's all three. Mmm. But I knew it. It was, it was so, it was just easy. Wow. It just, you know, if you spend time with my husband, you will see certain qualities that just make sense for me. Mmm. You know what I mean? I don't know if they make sense for anybody else, but for me, like for instance the other night, right? I got home from this concert at the crack of dawn. Jay-Z cut. Yeah. Because child. Yeah. Had us the whole night. Anyway. Yeah. So I got home at the crack of dawn. I go to sleep at 5 AM.

[00:51:30] My husband gets up for work at, he gets up at six, but he leaves, like he's getting ready around seven or whatever. So I get up with him and I'm chatting a little bit or whatever, but I'm still tired or whatever. So he gets to work. I text him. I'm like, hey, I can't wait to tell you about the concert or whatever. He's like, yeah, I actually wish I got up earlier so I could hear about it. I, Yappy McYapperson, need a husband who wants to hear me yap. Yes. What man says I wish I got up earlier so I could hear.

[00:52:00] But that's, that's what, that's God. Yeah. Cause I didn't even know to pray for that. When I think about my husband's family, my in-laws who I adore, I adore these people. I, when I tell you my in-laws, my, my, his parents have passed, but his siblings, and both his parents have passed before we met. Oh wow. But his sisters and brothers. Yeah. I, I would do anything for them and they would do anything. They love me as a person. Wow.

[00:52:28] They invite me to still like, I'm going to brunch with his sisters on set, just us. You know, not like, you know, and I'm just like, I didn't even know to pray for that. Right. I didn't pray about that. I didn't pray for my husband's siblings. Wow. You know what I mean? Like, I didn't, I didn't even know to pray for these things. So sometime when you just wait for God and you allow God and you go, and when you're waiting, just like any other waiting room. Yep. There will be people who you see go before you.

[00:52:55] When you wait, when you got a restaurant, you got a big party, you waiting on the grand room, you waiting on the big lobster dish. I'm going to say, some people who order chicken fingers before you are going to get married. They're going to get it. It's okay. Yep. It's fine. Especially to my sisters who are older. It's okay to wait. It's okay to wait. And while you're waiting, champion your friends who get married before you. Yeah. Love on your friends who get married before you. Support your friends who get married before you.

[00:53:25] Absolutely. Because when it's your turn, you're going to want that. Absolutely. So I second that. Yeah. And I think that it is so important to, if you struggle with envy and jealousy, you need to work on that right now. Yeah. It ain't going to disappear when you get married. It's not. And I think that, I know it's very hard to see people get married, start dating, fall in love, have a kid before you.

[00:53:54] But it is important to celebrate other people because that's what you will want. Yes. Because then when your time comes, you want to make sure that when you're looking at the people that's going to be standing next to you, that you have people that really feel like, oh yeah, she was there for me during my time. That you did right by them. Yeah. Because if you didn't, you might be up at that altar by yourself. Yeah. Struggling. Raising that kid alone. You gotta care about that village. Yeah. So, you know, you're doing a whole lot in the space.

[00:54:24] You're working with a lot of brands. You're working with other influencers, kind of doing your thing. Where do you see yourself going? What dreams and visions that you have that you haven't already accomplished? Mmm. I would love to see myself being invited to like Paris Fashion Week, Copenhagen. I really want to get into- I want to be with the Janayne Nella of it all. Yeah! Okay? You know what I'm saying? I want to be up there with my legs crossed, sunglasses on, like, mmm. Clapping for the, you know, for the designers.

[00:54:53] So, I would love to be invited to more- I would love to be invited and be in more spaces like that. I would also love to partner with a brand to create a modest but stylish line. That is one of my desires. I've seen Amazon and Target. I know we got things going on with Target right now. We're figuring it out. You know, we trying to, you know, figure out something. So, I would love to, you know, partner with a brand and create a line because I feel like

[00:55:19] I, not that I am the blueprint for what a modest but fire outfit looks like. A little bit. I definitely think I can help the girls out! You know what I'm saying? So, I would love to see that. I'm really hoping to grow my YouTube and grow my Instagram. I would love to hit 100K specifically on Instagram. Period. This year, I want to achieve that. But I really, I think, the other thing I would say is I really want to be asked to speak on more panels. Like, I would love to be a part of the Black Christian Influencer Conference. Okay, figure that out.

[00:55:49] You know? Say a little something to the girls. But I think that's where I see myself right now. And I think, I just want whatever God wants me to do for the future. Like, I just want to really, I think for my future self and my career, I want to make sure I am not going like this with what God told me to do. I want to stay on that narrow path. So, I think that is my prayer. That I will stay on the narrow path and not lose sight of Jesus as he elevates me.

[00:56:17] Because I think that he is going to do that for both of us. Yeah. So, I just want to stay focused. Yeah. I love that. That's good. We ask a question to end the show. And the question is, in the grand scheme of things, what do you want your legacy to be? I feel like I really want people to know that you can live for Jesus and still have a fun life. You can still have other passions.

[00:56:46] You can still, you know, enjoy fashion. And I really want people to see that you can be a disciple and have a well-rounded life and have other passions. And I hope and pray that inspires other people to not put themselves in a box and feel like they need to look like this person or the person that's in ministry. Or, you know, I want people to see me and be like, oh, wow, I can glorify God in whatever industry I'm in. Yeah.

[00:57:15] I think that is the legacy that I want to leave. Yeah. Sounds like you want people to understand that God created their culture. Yes. And that they can glorify him. In whatever they do. Yes. Absolutely. Well, you're well on your way to doing that. Oh, thank you. You are well on your way to doing that. I thank you so much for being here, for sharing your life with us also. Thank you for having me, Lish. And for giving us a little bit of game on how to get some partnerships, how to really show up in this influencer space while still doing it for God. Tell the people where to find you. Oh, yes.

[00:57:45] Yes. You can find me at Jones underscore Tiara on Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, Pinterest. All the things. All the stuff. Yes. So, yes. It'll all be tagged below. I want you guys to go follow her. Go binge her content. Be inspired. If you're a fashion girl, copy some of them outfits. Hey. Shop your closet and see what you can do and how you can make it. This is what I'm about to be doing. Hey. You know, I want to encourage you guys to help her get to that 100K on Instagram this year and support the work that she is doing.

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