Episode #35: Hanukkah Edition

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[00:01:16] This is episode 35 of The Finding Neverland Podcast. Our mics weren't working for some reason. And so we're using the computer mic. But, you know what we're doing? We're doing it. It's picking it up. This is the Hanukkah episode. And we got Armandora, a small manor on the background.

[00:01:36] You can see that. Thanks, Dan. Very, very. Yeah. And Mary sent us that as a blessing. Thank you. Yeah. So we are kind of wing in this episode. Yeah. Hopefully you guys are having a good night. It's no one here in Colorado. I had to.

[00:01:56] I can just stay the night here when you're here. Yeah, I got to stay the night in this house because it is just coming down. Yeah, it's just coming down like crazy. So but I think it's fitting that we're talking about Hanukkah and it's very wintery outside. Yeah.

[00:02:12] And so we're getting, I don't know. I just, I just had this sense of joy and gratefulness with how cool that was. And I just, I love the winter, you know, the Christmas season. So, I love this time of year. I love what Christmas is on the outside.

[00:02:29] And as far as I hold a day, I love the lights and everything about that. But somebody even asked me to do this because they saw that this was going to be our topic. And we've been talking about it. And, uh,

[00:02:41] Yes, this was, can you tell me what's so significant about Hanukkah and why it's important to a Christian believer. It things like that and I was like, well, I can tell you a couple of things are up to that.

[00:02:53] It commemorates a time and history that they wanted to remember for thousands of years now. A couple of thousands did commemorates a miracle that happened when they were having an insurrection against the, uh, came of a Syria, a Syria at the time.

[00:03:20] Who came in and basically did what Hitler did on, you know, in a short period of time killed 80,000 Jews in a span of three days. And if you do a math on that, you know, if they're doing it for 24 hours straight for three days,

[00:03:32] like every minute in there killing a 100,000 Jews. And you just, you know, but it commemorates a miracle and we can, I think we're going to do a couple more episodes after this one until I get to the details of the story because the story isn't in the Bible.

[00:03:45] It's, you know, there's references to the story and that, you know, and then I said, well, I'll contrast with Christmas also Christmas has words in really pagan areas or, you know, polytheistic culture that seeps this way into a monotheistic religion, which is unique.

[00:04:07] And we've kind of adopted it, tried to baptize it. You know, you can't baptize it and you can't baptize evil. If it's not from God, if it's a lie, you can't make it true anymore than he can make it true.

[00:04:22] He, you know, he, he said this, this, you know, was like this for a reason. There is a right and wrong and things like this. That's just about wrapped in that, you know, and then I'll just rediscover quickly but where's Elis John Taylor think, yeah, he go ahead.

[00:04:39] Yeah, so I was just kind of reading like what, how on occasion is it's, it's so it's the Jewish festival. It's also called the feast of dedication or the festival of lights.

[00:04:53] And it, it's an eight day festival beginning on the 25th day of the Jewish month of his, his love. I said that right. Yeah, yeah. Which typically this falls in November, December. So last night was the first night I believe upon a thine hour calendar this year.

[00:05:11] That's why we have, I don't know if you can really see we have two candles lit on the menorat night. And says, this, this festival is actually not mentioned in the, to knock out the old testament, but it is mentioned in the new testament Bible.

[00:05:31] So I think that's what the link was going to, was going to read more of that. He can, I think it says just very simply, you know, John 10, John chapter 10, 22, first 22.

[00:05:47] Just, it says then came Hanukkah or most people's Bible translations they all say things like the festival lights which is what Hanukkah is. Then came Hanukkah in your crucial line, Jerusalem, it was winter and Yeshua was walking around inside the temple area and Solomon's colony.

[00:06:07] So it says right away you're like, it's winter.

[00:06:10] So yeah, they've been celebrating it. It is having your sense to be in the holiday and just you seem so pretty notice like, oh my god, you know, I actually, you know, finding some links here and scripture this like, okay, this is, this is a thing that we've been doing nothing is going to the sun.

[00:06:28] And Yeshua Jesus, absolutely celebrated this holiday is that you, you know, this is not, I guess what people don't understand for the Christian believers. Why I knew I have the celebrator, what should I care about celebrating it and I think over the next couple of years.

[00:06:44] So we can get into like the reason why you wouldn't want, why wouldn't you want to celebrate it?

[00:06:49] You know, like it's not a burden is something you actually find joy and so on and why you wouldn't want to be kind of, meaning God and saying, I didn't really care about that, you know,

[00:07:00] or you just gave it no time of it. But, you know, he celebrated this, so this is not a political feast that God ordained and said you will celebrate this like the feasts of the Old Testament, they're in their God's peace, you know, but it is, it's a cultural, a holiday that's been so in very bad and Jewish people. So yes, you can say this is a Jewish festival.

[00:07:26] On the other one, you can't really say it or a Jewish piece of their God's peace. Yeah, I like how it says it was winter. Yeah, I'm not sure if it's specific. Yeah, it's just like, look, this is what's going on now.

[00:07:38] This is a lot of people probably think you read through a book like John or something, you're like every chapter represents like, oh okay, then it was another day or something, you know, then it was another day and sometimes it spans years between chapters and you're like,

[00:07:53] but ultimately the Gospel span of course, if you months I think Jesus was doing his ministry. And so yeah, you can't really, you know, chapters and verses were put in scripture for a purpose of study and to be able to

[00:08:09] not take where you read that. So someone else could find it's just not how things are written, you know, chapter verse chapter.

[00:08:18] So yeah, this is, um, did you want to keep reading or you just wanted to read that first verse that just mentions it? I think is that first one because,

[00:08:30] because the rest of it just talks about Jesus talking to the Jewish leaders and things like that, but he's trying to convince the Pharisees that he's got pretty much right.

[00:08:43] Yeah, he's, he's also done. Yeah, yeah, and then they try to stone him at that moment also, but you know, ultimately I guess is where he talks about, but do you not believe?

[00:08:58] My sheep here, my voice and I know them and they follow me. So this is during. So this is during. Yeah, yeah, it was just like a week long, you know, basically, or maybe some of us there probably in the middle of it.

[00:09:18] Yeah, and you know, somebody, if people say to like, you know, that this is just, you know, thought to them, but you know, I'll say things like Jesus was born on Christmas.

[00:09:28] And you just have to look only a little bit into that and see that this is some egg and holiday that honored a pagan God indeed, it's not real.

[00:09:40] And it was baptized and the church was like, how do I get everybody to stop? You know, how do I get everybody under one roof and just kind of like, so I can control them better honestly.

[00:09:51] That's this, this is the story of all this time. Look what we have today, a progressive ideology that's sweeping the whole earth trying to get us to lose our identity, which a lot of the Christians don't know they haven't identity in this, but this is your identity.

[00:10:06] You are grafted into this to these, to these as a Christian believer from the Jews, you know, a blessing from the Jews.

[00:10:14] And but you see this happening now, we're just trying to make everybody conform and they're going to start peer persecuting as much as you can get it from being affiliated with the God of the Jews.

[00:10:29] And for people say, I like this to Hitler didn't hate the Jews he hated, they got it and used because he did all that too. Like you're not allowed to go to synagogue, you know, a lot of worship.

[00:10:41] And so if, you know, the communist idea of how you control a population taking away their work ability to worship.

[00:10:48] So you can demoralize and control them. And another thing too, like the Jraydle, which I have never really messed with that much, but like the idea of the Jraydle is a game.

[00:11:02] It's a kids play, you know, during contact, but it's actually a real thing. It's actually something that was done for a reason because when they're when, you know, these, these are Greeks or I don't know that the Syrians, when they were going to house the house because it would be a good thing.

[00:11:17] And it's a house that has because it was they made it illegal for them to, to even studying the Torah to study the scriptures. But that's all they did, you know, they did it, they talked to the kids about it and says, when you lie down, when you wake up, when you eat.

[00:11:30] And so when the soldiers would come by to like check on these people and see if they catch them doing that kind of stuff.

[00:11:36] They put it all the way in the act like they were playing that game of spinning the Jraydle and avoid suspicion completely. Like, oh, they're just playing their stupid Jraydle.

[00:11:46] And so it was absolutely a real thing, you know, the Dicoat, yeah, it was absolutely a real thing because then when they left, they would bring the Torah back out and have their dinner and just have it right there like at the end of the tale will make some way. Let's read something.

[00:12:00] Sounds reasonable. Yeah, we see that in any anti-Semitic movement is to just try and pull that Jewish identity away from from Jews and make them like that culture.

[00:12:15] And we see that with Christians too, like they're trying to the world now, the American Americans, they're trying to pull Christians into looking like the world.

[00:12:26] I think that's what Jews just talks about is and Paul talks about doing not conform to the world and things like that because that's what happens. You just see your identity gets pulled out. The world starts to slowly pull away your identity into the world these things.

[00:12:46] We've seen that in thousands of years with the Jewish people. They just slowly take away the Jewish traditions and anything like that. That's how they conform to their own culture. So yeah, so we got, so I was reading a little bit of the history of Phanika.

[00:13:08] And I don't know if you touched on this yet, but we can touch on it. This is the holiday of Phanika celebrates the events which took place over 2,300 years ago in the land of Judah, Judea, which is now Israel.

[00:13:23] It begins in the reign of Alexander the Great, who conquered Syria, Egypt and Israel, but he allowed the lands under his control to continue observing their own religions

[00:13:33] and retain a certain degree of autonomy. Under this relatively benevolent role, many Jews assimilated much of Hellenistic culture adopting the language, the customs and the dress of the Greeks, and much of the same way that Jews in America today blended to the secular American society.

[00:13:52] And then says, more than 100 years after Alexander, how do you say his name? Antiochus. Antiochus the fourth. He rose up to power in the region. He began to oppress the Jews severely placing a Hellenistic priest in the temple Hellenistic like Greek culture.

[00:14:15] Hellenistic priest in the temple, massacring Jews prohibiting the practice of the Jewish religion and desecrating the temple by requiring the sacrifice of pigs, a non-coacher and a more army altar.

[00:14:30] One of the groups which opposed Antiochus was led by Matyahu and his son Judah, Makabe. He was also called the Hammer. That's a tightening.

[00:14:47] We're going to bring the Hammer to destroy this guy's killing Jews. This small band of Pius Jews led guerilla warfare against the Syrian army. Antiochus sent thousands of well-armed troops to crush the rebellion with the Makabees, succeeded in driving the foreigners from their land.

[00:15:14] Yes, I'm sure that was a miracle in itself. According to historical accounts, Jewish fighters entered Jerusalem in about December 165 BC. The Holy Temple, the Jewish religious center, was in shambles, defiled and desecrated by foreign soldiers.

[00:15:38] The Makabees clenced the temple and re-dedicated it on the 25th day of the Jewish month of Kizlev. This is how he began.

[00:15:50] When it came time to relight the Manora, which is the multi-branched lampstand candle, they searched the entire temple but only one small jar of oil bearing the pure seal of the high priest could be found.

[00:16:08] The Makabees were the most popular in the world. The Makabees were the most popular in the world. Thanks for bringing that to you. Yeah, I use it's a lot more context to read and talk about for sure I didn't know about the the oil. That's why they

[00:16:47] And that's why it Yeah, there's a canvas one. Yeah, I knew something about it But she had the oil was only enough to last like a day and a half or something and it had a blast a eight

[00:16:58] Yeah, and I didn't know this too when you said help or candle Which is supposed to do is you like that candle first and then you take that candle and you like the next candle with that candle and then put it back in the center I think

[00:17:14] Can we wrong but I think that's how you do it? Then you then you can use that candle to light the other ones too if you're on the seventh or anything

[00:17:20] It is like symbolizing how the flame is just passed on to you know this day and this day and this day Can you believe that dude? Yeah, that's an Aussie. I'm gonna think about that. That's beautiful Yeah, yeah, I'm sure those are really great stories of how the

[00:17:33] These guys Matiahu and the hammer we're able to You know beat this Syrian army. I'm sure there was I'm sure they were outnumbered. I'm sure it was you know I'm more reckless

[00:17:46] Yeah, this is after they killed those 80,000 Jews. Yeah, just like it was on that bit and just the fact that they prevailing isn't very cool What you said dude, but But this is like this is beautiful because they're taking back what got given them that what was there

[00:18:02] You know, God allowed them to be able to because it because they didn't stop and Then they can give into this pressure to just conform you know Got to realize the the Syrian

[00:18:15] King he puts in a statue of Zeus inside the temple and forces them to also use pigs in there And stuff to when they sacrificed her and then eventually you'll put it into all sacrifices Yeah, you couldn't even sacrifice like they did for their sins

[00:18:29] Animal sacrifices they could they had to eat pig and everything else like that So totally the filing like who else is this besides the anti-carats? Yeah, who else is this besides the devil himself What's it to him that they do these things if he can still control them?

[00:18:45] And that's kind of what Rome Decided to do like we'll just let him knew what they want to do You know, they can worship their own God and but and come to the temple and everything but other than that Yeah, they're gonna be under our rule

[00:18:57] And that's that that seems like the US right now You've got you know, you can have religious freedom, but if that religion starts to interfere with our ability to control you They're gonna start cracking down on yeah, and you know, what are they doing today? Um

[00:19:15] My things like Christmas and different things like that and that was just sneaky with it because he knows we are You know a Christian based society or we are yeah, I got bullying society I've got to introduce and he makes it in there like Christmas

[00:19:31] I'm gonna put that there you are gonna you know open presence on this one day It's actually a holiday that was dupped upon us from I'm really paying a Simple Festival that they had and you're gonna believe You know

[00:19:47] All these different things about it, and this is like you know god bless you for celebrating the birth of Christ But you have to know what your rooted in I think and this is just them. This is such a beautiful picture them not

[00:20:01] Count howling to this and the effect that it had this these are people that gave their lives for the Torah They gave their lives for the word of God so otherwise we might not have it today

[00:20:12] We wouldn't have it and that was the new all along. What's this stamp it out and they're stamping it out Throughout history, you know the Holocaust things like that and just This is repeating itself linked to one right now. So we just why would you want to celebrate

[00:20:28] The holiday they remember the sacrifices that were made so that we could see here and read this text today Yeah, well I'll go and read this commentary from my mind by all because again, it's cool But yeah, John chapter 10 The verses 25 through 39

[00:20:49] Well first of all, most people were probably if you asked them where's Hanukkah and then buy well if it's even in there And they tried say a little test of it. That's really dupped. She know that's must be no And you're like okay It's actually only in this

[00:21:02] Both of John right here that it mentions the holiday and you don't find any other mentioned of the holiday In scripture So it's like oh when you know it What it says Jesus was walking in the winter here, but

[00:21:17] It is surprising to both the Jewish and the Christian communities that the clearest mentioned of Hanukkah and the Bible is in the New Testament Then came Hanukkah and Jerusalem It was winter and Yeshua was walking around inside the Teflaria and Solomon's Colony

[00:21:32] Not only did you Yeshua celebrate Hanukkah, but you observed it in the same temple that had been Clenton and re-dedicated just a few generations earlier under the macadies Many Jewish scholars see a deeper spiritual meaning to Hanukkah Then the light is came both to give inspiration

[00:21:49] For the light of the silence for a brightening our heart, sizzling right or an in Jewish publication Hanukkah Because Hanukkah is a celebration of deliverance It has also become a time to express an exceeding an in the hope

[00:22:03] Just as the macadies were used by God to redeem Israel perhaps the greatest redeemer of Messiah We're also coming this time With this understanding we are more more fully appreciate the scenes That unfolded as Yeshua celebrated the feast 2000 years ago in Jerusalem

[00:22:22] And then the festivities Yeshua was approached by Radbar too as how much longer are you going to keep us in suspense If you are the Messiah tell us publicly it's John 10 24 The answer to this is a This appropriate question is contained in Yeshua's Hanukkah message

[00:22:40] He clearly reiterates his claim in the proof of his Messiah ship This shows the real connection between Hanukkah and Christmas Hanukkah It shows the real connection between Hanukkah and Christmas Hanukkah recalls a military victory for Israel and the implications are vast

[00:23:01] If Antiochus had succeeded in his campaign of anti-Semitism and destruction And there were have been no Jews by the time of Yeshua The miracle of Christmas could take place only after the miracle of Hanukkah The miracle Christmas is Christ being born But As far as we follow

[00:23:23] You start to see how you know even today and in Society at secularism is seeping into does anybody really Take this one day Christmas Eve and Christmas Day and actually if you are a strong believer

[00:23:37] Are you really getting into that celebration of Jesus being more or is it mostly about the presence is it mostly about Family and getting together and you can't even explain why you celebrate this just

[00:23:48] It's just a moment to buy presents for one another and get gifts and stuff Or you know when we like the manure or something is there any other reason Oh no They better not hurt it but yeah that will get in last long and those names so

[00:24:06] But you see how You know Does anybody really celebrate Christmas and that in that aspect or is something like Hanukkah Which is just a remembrance you know festival for a week on work your diligently just like kind of Celebrating that and lighting a candle for each day

[00:24:25] You know how much more is that is that aligned with like You know Thinking God and blessing one another and and remembering hey we can't let this happen When they start confiscating books when they start

[00:24:39] You know saying you can't read your Bible and things like that that's gonna be another round You know this can be another round when people are you know going to say I don't really care that much about it or they're willing to die for it

[00:24:49] And I just think it would be You know, a travesty for this to have been a thing and then may find out about it later on and we like oh I can't believe I got stamped out you know and just realized that and me actually won them that

[00:25:05] You know okay, so this was supposed to be a thing. You know And it's just today too you see I got another thing people. I think a lot of people would rather have it is real was not

[00:25:18] A Jewish nation anymore they didn't want to see all the juice annihilated and that is just the voice of the anti-credits coming through to this day Saying I'm gonna kill God's chosen people and the last thing I'll say about that is

[00:25:32] If you want to if you want any proof that there is a God you have to look at the Jewish people and there exists This currently they shouldn't be these in existence. Yeah, that's that's proof number one When he says you know no one will ever

[00:25:46] Disgury you know until I come back you and my people You're God and so we're back to him to that family and you just got to ask yourself why don't why so apprehensive is because we've been taught we've been kind of like We've been

[00:26:02] You know cuz it'll be into that with with our traditions We don't want to give up our traditions, you know like if you're doing something wrong or you want to miss wrong and then are you also willing to just not do it anymore too

[00:26:14] And things that up until maybe five years ago. I wasn't willing to do you know It's like oh yeah, but I still think it's credible and this and this and God bless you for you know so I've ran things and notering God and his son You know

[00:26:27] But you have to know what you're being steeped in and maybe we could then I have more of the next couple of us actual details of The story of how I could and then also like the details of how Christmas came out also

[00:26:42] Yeah, we could do that like next week or even though we got here when we get closer to Christmas I think I think that's our plans. We can and I'd die to do burn to How Christmas how the good how secular Christmas is

[00:26:54] You know nowadays and it is now It's not it's not a holiday from the god told us to bring it but you see how we kind of baptized We put some holy water on it and said look this is gonna be Jesus of Earth

[00:27:08] And he wasn't more in winter time, you know and even even like even Hanukkah I mean even like secular Jews like made it into like that just like a Always gonna who's gonna you know so we're just gonna pick gifts for everybody and you know

[00:27:23] It's actually probably they're they're most Jewish you know the their most secular holiday as well It's kind of like the Jewish Christian all the Jewish Christmas as well and I've been kind of I bet you there's a lot of

[00:27:38] Like in the Elbranica that don't even know the story of That we just read about you know this miracle that they were able to beat This Syrian army You know, yeah, so it just like Christmas is more of a cultural Celebration that a spiritual one

[00:27:56] by far as cultural and they don't know anything about it makes spiritual And it's just what we've done, you know You know just like but everything but but yeah look I mean Not only is it it makes sense to me These aren't gods

[00:28:14] God didn't tell us to do this and so of course they're not blessed Let's be honest right now. He's not annoying thinking You know he's not okay. Yes. This is going to make you feel whole or complete through this because

[00:28:27] Man came up with these traditions so of course is secular, you know of course we put that in here Don't you think Christmas would be a lot less secular if it was actually from that Or it was actually something

[00:28:38] You know but it's got to be palatable to the world you know so all these things man I think about and like you make so much this to me because you can't really celebrate the feast

[00:28:47] There's a code and not actually really be doing it for that reason yeah, I mean the fall you can't it just doesn't work Yeah, I mean Thanksgiving is our American version in our world version of that you know and it's not anything to do with

[00:29:02] You know what god told us to be thankful for too we don't go into the details on Thanksgiving But yeah, just like why would you want to celebrate These things they just

[00:29:13] Commemorate marina and absolutely devotion to god's word and so you gotta ask yourself when you shoot a celebrating these holidays because he was a juice you You know he saw it bring his holidays Up until he died at 33 you know

[00:29:29] He's he's were meant he's thinking these are the people who died for me I'm about to die for it Like I'm gonna I'm gonna finish this It's gonna be it's gonna it's coming full circle now so every time he celebrates this he realizes

[00:29:43] This is the people who died for my word and butt died for my cause and save the temple for Being the file you know not only was it being the file just being you know Completely cut off to them and

[00:29:58] They took the statue of a zoo sat in there, you know they got rid of all the pagan things in there And then what's the first thing me do they like this manora

[00:30:07] It's like the first thing like well we got to like the norm because this is something You know, I don't know when the mirror really comes from that much, but Yeah, I mean it was just like a candle in the in the temple

[00:30:19] Yes, what I think this says It was kind of what they had Yeah, oh a candle shone, but even the way it's like this was their first Frameth thought okay now we gotta get the temple ready so just start washing being in separate by singing

[00:30:36] Because during that time they was sacrificed twice a day yeah, like in the morning and then in the afternoon They would have their animal sacrifices for You know A sin offering or you know, I think Thanksgiving offering whatever they were offering

[00:30:52] Then they in the they would do that in the temple so it was like kind of start Kind of like right now we're gonna start right now again. We're gonna honor God We just went through hell

[00:31:02] And so this is we're now we're gonna show God why we went through hell Like we did this so we could start this Or it's like you know James was saying this like it's like it's kind of like

[00:31:16] Really just into the whole other end of the spectrum of Christian needs were You're like Yes, it's nothing to do with the Judeo Christian values. We have from this Bible You know these Christians that were early Christians were all Jewish men

[00:31:31] You know like they came from this culture too and we don't see it. Why is he gonna say all of Harley anything and today's my or church at my house about any of this stuff and it's just so

[00:31:40] Dry and I think that's that will biggest even on us to be feel like we don't have this life and we're not full You know, I'm like we're empty and we gotta ask ourselves why and just like I'll tell you right now This is not

[00:31:54] This is not something that's gonna make me feel empty after right so I'm right here Yeah, so you know you're doing yourself with this service. You know and other people this service and you're really

[00:32:03] I don't know if you I just might sound harsh but you're really looking at God and say well. I don't really I don't really want to Crazy for The things you've done You know like or just like I don't want to honor

[00:32:17] You know I've got to do the Christmas thing and in real progress and stuff If you can ask yourself deep down right away Yeah, man. Is this something like I could get on board with or is something?

[00:32:27] I can't give up and you're some a lot of you but I'm willing to give it up Yeah, yeah, there's their choice, but I mean If you're feeling like you know there's something more because there is unless it's me honest I probably do like 5% of what

[00:32:45] You know I've done about Believers should probably be focusing on my day-to-day basis Can I put another 5% in it this year for trouble? Just get real with yourself and say look this is where you're gonna be full yeah Yeah, so we've talked you know many times like

[00:33:06] You know we celebrate I like this is my first time really looking into Hanukkah and celebrating it Yeah, yeah, and that's and I think me and Luke You know as believers we want to honor our Jewish the Jewish roots in our Christian faith. I think it

[00:33:25] My under by looking at these things we we can understand our Christian You know salvation better Also Christ salvation we can understand who he was more we can understand we I've been able to understand Who the one should God is you know

[00:33:46] Yeah, and we and we celebrate this to also you know celebrate the light of this world Jesus is the The light of this world um that was kind of what I wanted to read also in John eight John eight 12 John eight 12

[00:34:14] Oh, this is when he's talking to the woman at the well Or the the woman cognitive dog in a adult dog tree. Oh, yeah, yeah, so At the end of this story Jesus spoke to all all the people watching you know right after he tells

[00:34:36] Right after he tells her Nazidoh I condemn you go and send no more Which is a great story which I think we should we should go over that one too I love that

[00:34:48] Jesus spoke to them again saying I'm the light of the world he who falls me shall now walk in the darkness but have the light of life And I can't but think When we look at when he's talking during Monica He's talking about

[00:35:07] The miracles he's done and so Monica is kind of like a holiday that celebrates these miracles that God has That's done and then he's he's also sharing that these miracles that those people saw him do He's saying he is God Right right so

[00:35:34] He made watts for this to be yeah, yeah, so thank you I don't know. I just see this connection Between those Yeah, just seeing him he's the light of this world and

[00:35:50] During this time of year is a great time to celebrate these miracles that God has done for us the the greatest miracle of him sending his son down to To be our savior

[00:36:06] That's just that's pretty much how I'm I'm seeing it. It's just Jesus is the light of this life and you know every you know the festival Lights just makes me think of Jesus Yeah, yeah, you're right

[00:36:18] Yeah, like the and then the flame going from day to day also And actually the fact that you use that candle to light it you know just light one individually with the matches You you might want with the magic and then use that bigger candle

[00:36:32] Yes, you know Christ at the head I'm gonna carry through each day and it pours oh or until the next day the next day yeah, and then they're all lit Next day lit you know At the very end of this this celebration after eight days and

[00:36:48] Man, you know, I just realized of the messianic Jewish sin and that I Have gone to you know not not recently but That used to go to really a lot It's called or hi-in which means a light of white

[00:37:05] That's actually the name of the church. That's what he says is that he's like But we have the light which gives life You know And didn't get a really ask yourself can you really want it? Or you just kind of like

[00:37:20] This is where really where it breaks down to me. It's like You know, is it now I just know I'm saved and I'm going to have it now It's not like you're about to use it that for my savings. Okay, let's go eat brunch today

[00:37:30] Just go watch some football after that or You really that's how Christ is gonna come back and find his bride Just being well think of what you did But I'm not gonna do anything about it on the place since you in the places and then devil sits there

[00:37:47] Okay, it's a long as they don't you know I think it was a CS Lewis but where he's sitting in the screw table. There's it's a really good book if you want to read it It's fictional a account of This man who's being

[00:38:00] He's being watched by two demons later and the whole book is the two demons talking on my seat each other. How do we get him to destroy his life? Like this is where I signed to this man to get him to not

[00:38:11] You know be healthy and got so they're talking to each other and the That the higher up demon says to the or one

[00:38:22] It's okay. He can do it because of the one or one starts saying things like what if he starts reading the Bible or what if he starts going and church and this And he said it is okay

[00:38:31] As long as he doesn't act on any of those things we don't have to do anything about it And it's a fictional story, but I can imagine That's exactly what happens in reality because If you go hard towards you people hard towards anything this true

[00:38:47] There's a lot of lies waiting on the other side of that to stop you from eating There's also yeah, there's also a lot of people. It's like I saw that too And there's somewhere He just says let you the light shine before minutes in Matthew by 16

[00:39:03] Like your light shine before man in such a way that they may see your good works and glorify your father Yeah, that's been my advice to a lot of the young people that I've been there was string to it's just Continue to be the light

[00:39:17] Yeah, I mean, there's gonna be persecution attached to You know, it's not it's not even getting to a savior It's you put yourself out there Under your as banner you're gonna catch a lot of flaming arrows, you know, but Yes, you conquered death. Yeah

[00:39:35] Yeah, tell me about it. I mean, yeah, and you know he says fear not You know those that can kill the body, you know, yeah fear him who can also kill both the body and the spirit

[00:39:46] And yeah, our soul in health and so it's selling us yes, he will still have a body in health and you're going to be me by dying And a million million million deaths, you know, no return it with that Just get a realizes the series

[00:40:02] You know, I think our more our world is just really focused on telling us things aren't really that serious We should accept everything that comes down to pie in like 99% of it is all all why And you just have to suspend reality to live in this society

[00:40:20] And so you're gonna clash with yourself in your mind all the time How this doesn't line up with reality. This doesn't and you just gotta look towards a script And see look these people have the same problem You know, they really did it

[00:40:33] They saw a worldly lived it that they didn't belong to because they knew they were never meant for God You know out of this world and they decided to take action with it And you know just One during yourself did like

[00:40:51] What's that what's that to me? You know, like what is that to you? What is that to me? What is that to my family? How do I want to see her and et cetera et cetera?

[00:41:01] And but you start to see the grim reality of some of these things like overshadow of course by the Just complete is your way you get from this relationship you have with father But just like the grimness of the actual Cost that you're going to pay for

[00:41:17] Having any of these beliefs and probably go out and say hey, I think how it could still Majud it and people are like man. He's living in this stone age or something

[00:41:27] That kind of stuff and I'm like yeah, well I'd rather live there than then the new age They staged to come you know, or you know they were in now we're Talk about the new world order and things like that

[00:41:43] It's all prophesied in here too. It's like yeah, it tells exactly what's happening and you can see it in Revelation it's really really dancing in Revelation The book of Daniel has a lot of good prophecies on a Ten times it talks about what's going to happen there too

[00:41:58] Tows you when it's gonna happen actually it tells you like the sequence of things and It's they can't believe that all those prophecies were so dead on as they are now That they saw these things that he prophesied about you know

[00:42:13] Like 26 hundred years ago or something and they're coming back to past today and they're like there's no way this is a little In the way he knew this that dog

[00:42:22] But then you each people get chills down there back probably actually look at the like a the dating of these Tedics and they know it was written here And they know he couldn't have known this to 26 hundred years ahead of time and

[00:42:35] People get chills down there they're back over that We work you know look are constantly finding prophecies that we didn't really see or or see before Yes, like a living duck it's like a living document yeah really is been like It's God breathed

[00:42:54] So you can open up your battle and they're like I've never read that Never read it and this is not a large composition of books by any stretch when you take into account what it's talking about

[00:43:06] Like even the new testament each gospel is a very short account of Jesus is life We don't have a lot of it and you know John himself I think said you know

[00:43:17] Jesus performed you know all of these miracles that you see here. I was an eyewitness to it And so we're hundreds of other people and he said he performed a way more miracles than it

[00:43:26] If I was to write and down it and books it would feel the entirety of earth for me to record them And I'm like yeah I don't know so you know that's that's my savior, you know that's uh yeah

[00:43:39] For him to say all that though you know in the midst of Persecution and now had to flee and be in hiding basically He's writing this book basically an exile Because he's like one of the only disciples that still why Running his book I think of the island

[00:43:55] We're the table that they can just but yeah, he's writing this down and he realizes there when else it got Yeah, I got Margaret already Just just overall you know celebrate what we have It's like

[00:44:12] Want to get out of your head and get out of all that you know thoughts that you haven't come up here in You need to get in someone else's head and you need to get with that You know learning I'm learning a lot about Joe's tradition and

[00:44:26] Attending a Jewish Christian church. I I I love that I keep learning this like This lifestyle that the Jewish Faith has of just consistent Rememberance of what God has done in our lives that is something that Christians can learn from

[00:44:45] You know we don't do that a lot of times a lot of times we forget the things that God has pulled us out of the miracle She's done the protection over our lives the consisted protection over our lives And I'm just like I'm you know

[00:45:00] I'm so thankful that I you know you see holidays like like Hanukkah and you see that what they're celebrating is These miracles that they've come out of and I think this is a lifestyle that Christians can learn to and you're only individual

[00:45:13] Life is just this continual remembrance of Yeah always goodness in his love towards you and his protection in these miracles that he's pulled you out of and

[00:45:23] This darkness that he told you out of you know me and loop were both in a pretty dark place at one point our lives and it just seems like Just seems like this light keeps flowing through both of us And people are seeing it and just like

[00:45:42] Jesus talking about like your life shine before men I'm noticing you know people are becoming attracted to this podcast and the band and hearing what we have to say

[00:45:52] That's blowing my mind. It's not anything that me and Luke are doing it's just this white that Jesus is pouring through us that other people are in desperate need of And so I'm thankful for that. I am just so I'm still just very

[00:46:10] I'm feeling grateful tonight for that And just I I really want to live this life up just continual remembrance of Our Lord just saving us and protecting over us and his goodness and just you know

[00:46:25] I think a lot of American Christian culture could really learn from that because I don't think we do that I think we say we're Christians and then you know we let our circumstances just Completely destroy our our our lives, you know

[00:46:39] We're just we're so wrapped up in our finances and the things that you know we need to get done and Man, I love this this like Jewish tradition of like let's stop and just remember how good our God is and remember his sovereignty. It lets

[00:46:55] You know, let's give him our attention for Gosh an hour live this podcast is just an hour, but you know, I want to I want to remember what he's pulled us out of and Show him our you know our thankfulness towards that and so

[00:47:12] That's what I think is That's what I think that's how we should be treating our the Christmas holiday as well. It's just this remembrance of Jesus and what he's done for us yeah Amen

[00:47:30] God is there's like there's a saying it says human beings forget what they should remember Yeah, or they remember what they should forget and Forget what they should remember and

[00:47:44] It's interesting you can't really forget something you didn't even know in the first place. That's the said reality right right now I can't even forget forget or remember something if I wasn't taught it So that's the devil wants that wants to make sure we don't

[00:47:59] Have her even find out about this so when it does come to pass that you find something out You don't think it doesn't drive with your world You are all on the defensive about it and say oh, that's not my

[00:48:11] My religion stuff you you tell God that you when you clean your religion When he's you stand before him and say but I like my bad just roots it's like yeah, yeah, that's not really It's been early gonna work for me

[00:48:27] Or he's gonna judge you based on that You know You say that wasn't where I called you to do it and I'm so Anything you know you guys can do to You know help us in this journey. I think it would be much appreciated. You know it's like

[00:48:44] Just just having conversations and bouncing things off from one another It says I would grow In any area of life of course, but Just the dialogue that we you know have with certain people is just I don't want to lose that

[00:49:00] I want to keep the phone lines open. I said to speak I want to keep it open If communication stops then All of a sudden it's a small sea of this disconcer like

[00:49:16] Discontent and and these different things start to spring up work. It's like hey you should have kept the water running in But like he said Let's your light shine before all men. You know nobody likes a candle and sticks it under a basket

[00:49:33] You said it up on the stand so that it could light the entirety of the room in the house We're doing the visual thing man. We're doing a nice I heard That's good. I heard a good thing from Maddie Montgomery one of our spiritual Our virtual spiritual fathers

[00:49:51] He was talking about How you know in a dark room you don't got to you don't got to tell the dark to turn off all you got to do is just turn the light in the dark I see and I just love that

[00:50:05] And he pointed out how a lot of us are we're praying we're like talking to the devil tone and you know or be through the devil and I don't think we have to do that. I think You know, I agree with him you know if we

[00:50:20] Put our eyes on Jesus seek seek who the light is all you got to do is turn the light on and the darkness is Arraticated So you know I love that he mentioned that because it's like we don't need to start

[00:50:34] We don't need to focus so much on the darkness and the enemy all you got to do is turn the light on The light invades the darkness and Jesus is our light in this world and I think I think what he's kind of teaching on is

[00:50:49] You know much of Christianity is we're focusing on the enemy and what they're doing and The darkness of this world and As it is very overwhelming and it is very terrible. There are a lot of bad things man. Let's just let's just turn the light

[00:51:02] Let's focus on the light rather than Like we're not gonna turn We're not gonna turn the dark any darker. It's already dark, you know, right? Let's let's get the light in there and the light pierces that darkness so

[00:51:17] I just love that I would have that he mentioned that because it's just really open my eyes to just let's Let's keep let's fix our eyes on Jesus peace the light of the world and um yeah

[00:51:28] And it's gonna he's gonna eradicate that darkness and I I just did that perspective is just So helpful yeah Yeah, and when you're saying that new and some people in my argument was just semantics or

[00:51:39] It's just like yeah, but that's just like you know why is it so But if the devil ladies don't impact that a little bit more If the devil can have us focusing on finding the forces of darkness and

[00:51:51] Everything that goes along with that useless endeavor because we're not as powerful as they are We're not gonna win. Yeah, yeah, instead of looking towards the light and saying I I'm looking at you I'm looking at you

[00:52:04] And going towards God then he's won you know, we're not getting any closer to God We're not saving anyone else right from the we're not smashing anyone else from the fire We're just mindlessly it's like it but you know it's like a You know

[00:52:20] Well, it's like trying to beat up a Demi or like a scarecrow or something and just you're yeah bold Yeah, you and And we're trying to make we're trying to glorify ourselves to a lot of us, you know, we're trying to put let's let's

[00:52:34] All we're gonna go we're gonna go save these All right, we're gonna go down the privacy we'll save these people. It's like yeah, and it's it's very Superly self-centered that's a beautiful person with darkness and trying

[00:52:50] I'm gonna you know I'm gonna go to this place and send out these demons so that I look good and I Yeah, I look like you're very powerful godly man, you know, it's just yeah

[00:52:59] You know, I don't want I don't want to be like that. You're right. Yeah The pride that's in there. Yeah And they're things you should never Really talk to the world He would be his preaching and teaching yeah, he always has the world as the world

[00:53:15] You know the world is the world he talked to people who knew God or who you know or I've got and He told them that these truths so they could save the people in the world

[00:53:25] You know, but like you know he was saying like change just said you know The world is a world You know even the lowest prayer when they asked of how to pray

[00:53:34] I wanted to have a son on just that too. What he said think he says the liver We just not into temptation, but deliver us from evil Not deliver us from the world not deliver us from these this circumstance these things

[00:53:50] But from evil because evil is evil and the world is just under its spell So we have to realize it. It's like we really want to see a few of them in the world There are we just like treating them like there are any lost. Yeah

[00:54:03] Just straight up. Right. That's good. Yeah, we're running out of time though Or yeah, that's I am Mary Calvin this Yeah, thank you guys for listening to this I think we're gonna we're gonna dive deep into this so

[00:54:20] You know if you're watching this after the live stream, you know put a comment down if you guys if you have any questions or you want us to elaborate on anything next week We love that Hey, let us know Yeah, so

[00:54:35] This was a good one. This was 30 episode 35 I can't believe how we're just working yeah, we're just plowed through these. This is amazing Yeah I think on the first one. I was listening to the first one This past

[00:54:51] Man, it's just crazy is it night night or it's just like it was still cool then yeah, not really I think and then even just the way we were talking we kind of were talking like we thought this wasn't gonna really

[00:55:03] It was just like we're just doing this and we don't know if it's ever a conversation if we're even gonna do this again Like it kind of just act we kind of seem like

[00:55:10] We were kind of talking like it's like it was like one time thing so I think it's really cool that it's episode 35 Staying no be in The Santa Cruz and other reason to obey in ours another thing that you can be a be it

[00:55:25] It's a tool that is definitely a blessing and I give to us Remember it's a hope he has enjoyed it Like it's yeah, we'll see you guys next next for it All right yeah, that's I think you were touching on this that's wasn't really I feel of the

[00:55:44] Holy spirit and and our Lord is just really Arpanon with me and Lucas to just be obedient to some other things that God has given to us and so

[00:55:53] The podcast is one of those things. It's been so we'll just keep doing it until he says maybe do something else But this is just This is what we're really working on doing is just being obedient to the Lord and like he wants to do and

[00:56:06] What he wants to do with this band so They made yeah, I advise you guys to Just start doing that be faithful to what he's given you It'll grow Promise you that so yeah, and if it doesn't grow you still are faithful to it. Right

[00:56:21] You know, it's just said you gotta keep pressing forward. Yeah, I was I was just listening to a An author Christian author in John Bavir and he heard a The Lord told him the right book and

[00:56:34] He barely passed like English class he couldn't even he could hardly write and God was called when you write a book on and Oh, we're gonna set his first book only eight people potty Yeah, and you took like three years to write this book and

[00:56:51] Eight people wrote it but he was just like I'm just faithful. You know, I'm not trying to get as many But now he's going to the biggest you know Christian authors out there But he's probably be largest

[00:57:03] But he was like oh only eight people walk this book and you know the Lord was like right another one Yeah, and so you know that's what we gotta do. We just gotta be obedient doesn't matter if

[00:57:14] One person is even watching this show. You know, I just want to be obedient to the Lord and do what he says and Yeah, you know Go with that We'll see what he does with it. So Happy on everybody. We love you guys Thanks for listening

[00:57:32] Do you want to say it for him? I think that could take part in yeah, we'll finish it out and then we'll see you guys next week. Yes Heavenly Father I think he's so much for the time that we've had to unpack here word and the importance of

[00:57:52] Everything that we do get and you know just the details of everything that we do at our lives and Just just pray for the courage and the the faith to let you into those areas of our life and

[00:58:05] Have those areas bad ties more and then in most parts of our being in our soul Not just on the outside but deep inside with our souls are Not giving the appearance of having this and inside me again and became

[00:58:23] Thank you for your son and everything he did to show us how to live Everything's done for us eternally What you've done in your plan is worth and it's still working and we just praise you and honor that Which which is infallible which is you know

[00:58:49] He who was it is an Instacut You know It will bring about a new heaven and a new earth and these these things Welcome to pass and we are just in awe Getting to witness them in this day and age or with the technological

[00:59:09] Just blessing and we have of information and just everything on this side of history You learn and just realizing The people who did these things back then didn't even know anything about ishula Not only thing about this yet they still stay faithful to you

[00:59:24] And we're on this side of history and look at the look at the way that we're ending Just pray for every one of us did We're not found on the wrong side of that when you come back In the or just pray that you come back soon

[00:59:41] I want to close the bless you Thank you, Lord We love you And that's all That's buddy All right everybody yeah stay warm you're in Colorado Especially Cool yeah Blessings to you guys thank you for thank you for watching. Thank you for listening Thank you for

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