Making Sense of March Madness

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[00:01:21] as we come to you in the throws in the middle of in the in the angst and

[00:01:26] storm of March Madness, the disaster that is my bracket and

[00:01:31] the fun that it has been to watch the first weekend of games.

[00:01:34] We sort of delayed recording this episode until we got through that

[00:01:39] Thursday through Sunday Madness because I mean it's just

[00:01:42] basketball wall to wall and we'll talk about that in great detail today.

[00:01:47] Play for you a lot of sounds that have come out of the weekend because

[00:01:51] it was a news makers kind of a start to the tournament as well.

[00:01:55] Bill Hobson here, Paul Miller sitting across the desk from me

[00:02:00] and we are really excited to be joined for the you know fifth six seventh time

[00:02:07] but in a most unique circumstance by our friend Kurt David who has a rich

[00:02:11] history in playing this crazy game of basketball and

[00:02:14] you know Paul I've heard over the years different coaches describe

[00:02:18] the differences between being injured and playing hurt.

[00:02:23] Yeah which which one is Kurt doing today?

[00:02:28] Well we should probably ask Kurt that but all I know is that I'm glad he's

[00:02:33] got his camera on me off. Yeah, just zoom call. Yeah because I'm just

[00:02:38] picturing Kurt with like a hospital gown and I'm not I'm not want to see if he

[00:02:43] hasn't on backwards that's a big problem for the camera so yeah thank you for

[00:02:48] yeah as we're not too long ago four weeks ago you would have caught me in one of

[00:02:51] so yeah so playing injured or playing hurt which one are you today?

[00:02:55] Yeah I think that you know the good news is I'm not in pain and so that's the

[00:02:59] good news after major surgery four weeks ago but the bad news is it's a long

[00:03:04] road of recovery here and so you know one of the things you do learn from sports

[00:03:08] is that sometimes you have to rise the occasion whether you're 100% or

[00:03:12] not especially for those big games and this being a big game for us today

[00:03:16] talking about the big games. I'm rising to the occasion so whatever you want to

[00:03:21] call it I'm here. God's grace me with being here another day and I'm excited

[00:03:25] about it. Is this comparable to Isaiah on one ankle against the

[00:03:30] Lakers putting up 25 in the third quarter or is it the Jordan flu game where

[00:03:35] it was actually bad pizza or is it Willis Reed limping out to inspire all of

[00:03:40] medicine square garden? I don't know where we're gonna put it in the

[00:03:44] Yeah, yeah I guess if you want to honestly ask me that

[00:03:47] I wish it was an ankle and knee. Yeah, yeah. Well when you hear as a guy who

[00:03:53] played college basketball and played professional basketball when you

[00:03:57] get to March Madness in a normal year we're not not a year where you're still

[00:04:01] in recovery but a normal year one of those two words

[00:04:04] you know due to your I was gonna say to your heart rate but I gotta be careful

[00:04:07] about this. No it's exciting I mean this is it's

[00:04:13] deemed that it's toy net for a reason because you know here we are in March this

[00:04:18] is the national playoff for college sports or for college basketball and the

[00:04:22] madness comes in the fact that you know it things happen I mean as we're

[00:04:26] gonna talk about right things happen in a good way and things happen in a

[00:04:29] bad way. I have some personal stories to share with you about March Madness

[00:04:33] that were still painful to this day and also observations that have made

[00:04:38] throughout the years as a result. The question I have for you gentlemen

[00:04:41] because I don't know the answer to this when did that term get coined? When

[00:04:45] did a madness part come in the March? Any idea? I think it was a journalist that

[00:04:50] put that on to put that label onto about Paul will do a rapid fire search

[00:04:55] here and serve as our official research department and while he's digging

[00:04:59] into that just to kind of put a geographical connector on all of this

[00:05:05] as Kurt talks to us today he's very close by to the campus of Oakland

[00:05:11] University where the Golden Grizzlies call home and Greg

[00:05:15] Campy has been coaching that basketball team for

[00:05:18] 40 years and I think the entire country

[00:05:23] became Golden Grizzly fans for a couple of days. And with just a couple of

[00:05:28] better plays in their second game they could very well still be alive in the

[00:05:32] sweet 16. So let's start there, let's start with the Grizzlies Paul. What

[00:05:36] do you see? What'd you enjoy about that team?

[00:05:39] Well the coach and Dan Acroid hitting threes is just a thing.

[00:05:45] Okay here's your answer to your question Kurt. 1939 March Madness was first used

[00:05:51] to refer to basketball by a Illinois high school official

[00:05:54] and that was 1939. The term didn't find its way

[00:05:58] to the NCAA tournament until Brent Musberger used it during coverage of the 1982.

[00:06:04] Oh there you go. There you go. And wow okay when you said 39 I'm like

[00:06:08] it's been around that long but yeah that makes more sense now that an 82 is

[00:06:11] whenever they stuck to the tournament and then the NCAA at some point copy

[00:06:16] ready to it and now makes a lot of money out there. We're actually not supposed to

[00:06:19] say it because we're supposed to say you know the big college basketball

[00:06:22] competition or some silliness like they do with super bowl.

[00:06:26] There's a big game. I'm sorry.

[00:06:28] I'm looking at the big game. Yeah the big game.

[00:06:30] In fact just a little behind the scenes making of the sausage for all of you

[00:06:35] every week when we do this podcast there is a thumbnail graphic that's

[00:06:40] created that you know goes out with the podcast to whatever platform you're

[00:06:44] listening on and if I were to put the March Madness logo

[00:06:50] on that thumbnail it would be in violation of copyright loss even though we're

[00:06:54] talking about it you know we're publicizing it.

[00:06:57] You can't do all those things without paying the NCAA a licensing fee

[00:07:02] to use the logo. Really? Oh yeah and it's so I got to tell you having been around sports

[00:07:08] most my life and working with professional sports

[00:07:11] for books and TV shows that is one of the most challenging

[00:07:16] landscapes to navigate is that licensing. Yes it is music and logos and

[00:07:21] pictures and yes sports sports. Yeah they're

[00:07:25] marketing monsters and they want to protect their assets and so

[00:07:30] you know college sports hasn't gotten too far away from that because now it's

[00:07:33] become such a big deal money wise with their licensing I mean this whole

[00:07:38] we can get into that the NIL. We're going to actually we're going to dive

[00:07:41] into that right to start. We're talking about Oakland University. You talk

[00:07:45] about a quick turnaround for a kid that nobody had heard of so there's this

[00:07:51] long-range bomber who became the darling of America right. Jack Gokie right?

[00:07:57] Yeah like he's one of the best storylines or narratives

[00:08:01] from the first weekend of the tournament because they were one and done

[00:08:04] and one of the reasons why is he does not look like an imposing athlete

[00:08:09] in the least. No he really does look like Dan Ackwright when he was in college.

[00:08:14] Well the backstory is he had no division one offers. Yeah he played a hillstead

[00:08:19] zero and went to Hillsdale College laid out most of his years there had a fifth

[00:08:24] season decided to put in portal and Oakland was an offer that he had and

[00:08:28] ended up at Oakland as a result and obviously I'm sure they're very happy

[00:08:32] back to say oh my goodness what a journey and how did this work out and

[00:08:36] thank God it didn't. Well his coach is very thankful and in fact after their

[00:08:40] opening game big upset win sending Calipari home there was uh there were a few

[00:08:45] laughs to be had uh given the trash talk that had taken place before that game

[00:08:50] here's Greg Campy the 40-year veteran head coach of Oakland you. If you could have

[00:08:54] been our team meal after the game against Kentucky they were making so

[00:08:59] our players were making so much fun of Jack because somebody tweeted out that

[00:09:02] all these Kentucky players are going to be in the NBA next year and he's

[00:09:05] going to be selling insurance so they didn't sing and uh like a good neighbor

[00:09:11] and it was crazy. That is really fun. Nobody can

[00:09:14] raise you better than a teammate and yet so here we are now in the NIL world

[00:09:20] where this kid has literally a 15-minute window of fame to cash in on whatever he

[00:09:26] can right? And he is. Yeah yes because it's highly unlikely

[00:09:30] that he'll be a lottery pick. I don't think even he is anticipating

[00:09:35] an NBA career maybe I'm wrong. He's like Jim or for dead or whatever that is.

[00:09:39] Yeah he's just he's a gunner. He's a great college player and when that

[00:09:43] comes to an end then it'll be on to doing whatever he hopefully got his degree in.

[00:09:48] Yeah well his degree is in accounting right? Which explains the NIL deal that popped

[00:09:54] at right like filmed in the lobby of the team hotel after the game yeah yeah

[00:10:00] yeah so okay so I want you all to just kind of visualize with me for a minute

[00:10:05] what you think a commercial would look like with a basketball player in it right?

[00:10:10] So just generally speaking they would be in a gym in some sort of a generic uniform because

[00:10:17] the you know they wouldn't have licensed the team uniform and there would be an actual

[00:10:21] basketball and an actual basket. Not not the chase not Jack Goldke. This was somebody ran into

[00:10:28] a ballroom at the hotel wherever they were staying and has him faking shooting phantom shot

[00:10:36] while on carpet that looks like conference room carpet it's yeah it's hilarious and here's

[00:10:40] just like 10 seconds of his acting debut. Me and my team got to the next round by making all our

[00:10:46] moves count just like Turbo Tax who makes all your off-course moves count this tax season.

[00:10:51] That's it. That's so Turbo Tax. That's pretty much perfect. That's like almost $1,000

[00:10:57] check or whatever. Probably. He came off with some lunch money maybe bought the whole team some

[00:11:03] pizza or something but that came about so quickly and had they continued in this tournament it

[00:11:09] would have been fun to watch how corporate America might have come to realize that they've got

[00:11:14] a cool story here. Graduated from Turbo Tax to QuickBooks. Yeah, it looks like a really

[00:11:20] Carolina guy that does the Turbo Tax. I mean same thing he walks up he's got his North Carolina

[00:11:25] stuff on the big guy. Yeah well we have other marketable players like Cream,

[00:11:33] Abdul Jibbar and I say Cream like C-R-E-A-M because we've got this kid from Indiana State who if you

[00:11:42] put him in a lineup would not be chosen as the most athletic player in that lineup he would be

[00:11:49] Hollywood's central casting for a memorable character like a like a Blues Brothers version

[00:11:56] of a college basketball player but he's a really good player. He's a big guy he's got the horse

[00:12:01] grants specs on during the NIT right Indiana State and his plane in the NIT so his nicknames are

[00:12:08] Cream, Abdul Jibbar I've heard college yoke itch. He's his milk chamberlain.

[00:12:15] It's just really funny. And he seems to enjoy it all and he's having these teammates absolutely

[00:12:20] love him. Okay so let's talk major story lines of what's been taking place we talked about the

[00:12:25] Oakland Grizz Grizzlies as a really cool story that I think very well could have continued on but

[00:12:32] you know a couple possessions down the stretch run and that's what did them in grand canyon

[00:12:39] university. Could not pick them out of well I couldn't even put him on a map even though I know

[00:12:46] where the grand canyon is. Never had heard of this university Paul and they bring together

[00:12:52] a team of players that certainly not household names and were within some good free throw shooting

[00:13:00] of advancing to another round of this tournament and upsetting another monster. Yeah you know

[00:13:07] when you see the jersey and you still don't know what the mascot is like it said loaps.

[00:13:14] Yeah I'm like loaps there's the loaps the old Dodgers yeah I had to google it to figure out

[00:13:21] that they're the analopes. Yeah right and yeah they're they are a high octane version of

[00:13:27] street ball and they almost pulled it off and it was it was a Michigan trivia for you about

[00:13:32] grand canyon one it's a Christian University and if you knew that or not did not. Yeah it is

[00:13:37] yeah it's a Christian University so it's a private school. Two is a former Michigan native who was

[00:13:43] from Traverse City that played basketball at Central Michigan University that had a lengthy career

[00:13:47] with the Phoenix Suns was a head coach of grand canyon for quite a few years just recently actually

[00:13:54] and is no longer there I think this is the coach that that preceded him or succeeded him

[00:14:02] and that was Dan Marley. Dan was the head coach of grand canyon for quite a few years yeah it's

[00:14:07] a little trivia about grand canyon speaking of these various probably some of his players that he

[00:14:11] recruited because it's been that recent. Speaking of trivia curve you've got a bit of a background

[00:14:16] connection to competing against Greg Campy and Oakland University during your days at Saginaw Valley

[00:14:22] and if I understand correctly it went okay for you. That went very okay for us. Greg Campy's first

[00:14:30] year at Oakland University they were division two at that time they were not called the Grizzlies

[00:14:34] they were called the pioneers at that time. His first couple years were my last couple years

[00:14:40] playing college ball and in what they called the Gleaac the Great Lakes Center Legion athletic

[00:14:45] conference and we spank them we absolutely spank them those first couple years I think there were five

[00:14:51] and eleven each year and in the conference play but obviously Greg's come along ways in those 40

[00:14:57] years and so it's kind of funny to think about those first couple years when he started off

[00:15:02] and we played against him and to see where they've come now went division one of course and then

[00:15:08] just continued to improve. You know you talk about the three point shooter and to go back to Oakland

[00:15:15] there was a guy by the name of Travis Bader that in 2018 so about 16 or six years ago

[00:15:21] led the nation at three point shooting he literally of all the visual one basketball programs

[00:15:26] had the most threes and I'm not sure if that record still holds or not but he broke the record for

[00:15:31] most threes for a division one player and his name was Travis Bader at that time so again he put

[00:15:38] Oakland on the map with his three point shooting. Yeah so that's that's one of the things I love the

[00:15:43] most about the NCAA tournament right is it's like the mid-major super ball right and the opportunity

[00:15:50] for guys who you'd never hear of otherwise to have their 15 minutes of fame that's why I

[00:15:57] loved when Greg Sankie was whining about the SEC needing more bids because they're the best

[00:16:02] conference in basketball and then they're losing left and right and mid majors and directional

[00:16:08] schools and all the things right it's like that's what I love about the tournament. Well and so

[00:16:13] you know you look at when football expands the playoffs to eventually to a million teams but next

[00:16:19] year to eight or 12 or 12 14 after that or it's participation trophies will be following. Yeah and

[00:16:27] it's harder at the foot in football to have a Cinderella story break through because of the

[00:16:33] depth issues and the resources issues and it's harder for one stud athlete to be the entire

[00:16:40] difference maker in a game like Purdue is experiencing with their giant Mr. Edie right

[00:16:47] they're a good team they're a well-coached team but it doesn't hurt to have the next iteration of

[00:16:54] minute ball with some offensive skills on your team. So when we talk about teams that are performing

[00:17:01] well you look at your majors, you look at your Purdue's, you look at your number one seeds across

[00:17:08] the board and you expect what they're doing. You don't expect it from Grand Canyon you don't expect

[00:17:13] it from Oakland and you'd never you would never pick it in your bracket that's for sure. No so

[00:17:17] they're university. Yeah yeah. So Kurt this is maybe a question for you right like

[00:17:23] is basketball as opposed to like football and other major sports is basketball more of a matchup

[00:17:30] thing like you see Yale beat Auburn and they talk in first round and they talk about

[00:17:36] well that guy got the flagrant two and Gadiata and Bruce Pearl kind of choked as a coach in the

[00:17:42] game whatever and then you go maybe Yale's just really good but then they turn around and just get

[00:17:46] boat raised by I think it was San Diego State in the next round is basketball more about matchups

[00:17:51] than maybe some of the other big sports. Yeah you know it's a great question Paul I think one of

[00:17:55] the biggest things I know about basketball for a fact is it's a game of momentum. In momentum shifts

[00:18:00] happen frequently in a game and in different football I mean football when a momentum shifts it tends to

[00:18:06] be more systematic there's ways to shut it down. In basketball when momentum shifts well you better

[00:18:12] have everything put together in order to change them on momentum I'll give you a great example.

[00:18:17] I brought up about our matchup with Oakland University back in my last couple of years and when

[00:18:22] they refer when Greg just first started coaching at Oakland. My senior year and I think I've told this

[00:18:27] story on church view sports before. My senior year in the first game of the national tournament

[00:18:33] we were playing a team that we beat handily by over 20 both times and they beat us. That first game

[00:18:41] we were ranked eighth in a nation looking well past them and so any team at any night could win

[00:18:48] I mean you hear it in high school basketball teams that were five and fifteen go into a state championship

[00:18:54] game you know the fun part is it's like a whole mother season and coaches that prepare and peek at

[00:19:01] the right time I think that's one of the things that have been mired about time is what Michigan state

[00:19:06] he tends to have his teams peaking at the right time of the season so they're playing on all cylinders

[00:19:13] by the time the tournament comes along whether it be for the conference tournament whether it be for

[00:19:18] NCAA tournament and so I think that's where it's different with basketball a lot of momentum

[00:19:24] and also a lot of preparation to peek at the right time of the season if that makes sense.

[00:19:29] You know we examine these close games and I love watching the final five minutes of a close game

[00:19:36] at least I did before we really got into the whole interruption of of everything's gotta be

[00:19:44] replayed everything's gotta be reviewed yeah it's really tough to watch I mean honestly

[00:19:48] I know I've been whining about this for a while and it happens at football too it's your

[00:19:52] perpetual holy disc. Well it is because now you've got a complete breakdown of the rhythm

[00:20:00] of the game if a team had momentum established and then there's a play where the ball is tipped out

[00:20:05] of bounds and you can't really easily tell who knocked it out they automatically sprint to

[00:20:10] the scorers table they turn the monitor around they've got the little dial where they can go frame

[00:20:14] by frame and all meanwhile both teams are given a free timeout to go stand in front of their coaches

[00:20:20] and get more and you've just lost everything and then my favorite would be the replay review that

[00:20:27] takes place three seconds before the natural TV timeout break so there's a TV timeout break at 16

[00:20:36] 12 8 and four minutes left to go in both halves it just happens the first whistle after those

[00:20:41] those points on the clock is the TV break. I don't remember the teams because it's all a blur but

[00:20:47] there was a replay review at 402 left in the second half. The replay review took a very long time

[00:20:55] in fact they went to commercial break during the replay review came back ball was inbounded

[00:21:00] kicked out of bounds went to went to the full commercial break less than five seconds later

[00:21:06] and you just lose all of the momentum that was built up I cannot I cannot stand it so my viewing

[00:21:14] improving flow of the game idea which needs to be sent to the highest levels up well there's

[00:21:21] no commissioner so that's the problem it'll never change but if they go to a replay review can we

[00:21:27] just use that as the TV timeout do we have to do them both I know the revenue I get all that but

[00:21:31] I mean if it's that close to it rolling both into one yeah I don't know what's a great point you

[00:21:37] bring up because one of the concerns and questions that I have is you know it's pretty clear

[00:21:41] in a NFL when and when they cannot do a review yeah it's pretty clear right and I was watching

[00:21:47] one of the games where there was a gold tending call and literally it was probably two maybe even three

[00:21:53] minutes after the play that they reviewed it and realized it wasn't a gold 10 so they reversed

[00:21:59] the basket the two points didn't count and and I was thinking well what are the rules for the replay

[00:22:04] what you know there's certain set rules that within a certain amount of time for certain events

[00:22:10] it was just kind of like the wild wild west of replays yeah okay let's and which

[00:22:14] replay which team wasn't they got completely ripped off on the very clean block shot from behind

[00:22:19] that was called a foul they ended up losing the game it was like worse than the trade berk foul

[00:22:24] against Louisville years ago and you can or something I cannot remember but it was a small team

[00:22:29] that that was going to win that game except for that really bad call and there's no review of

[00:22:36] the actual foul call and I just thought why don't coaches have a challenge

[00:22:43] if you and if you don't win then you lose one of your time out yeah so or they can do the whole

[00:22:50] like okay during the commercial break the officials went back and read the three point shot from

[00:22:55] like eight minutes ago yeah decided it wasn't actually a three-pointer so and so just lost a

[00:22:59] point now we have a new score yeah as you come back from break my other suggestion for improving

[00:23:04] the flow of all of it and I think this would be this this would this stands very little chance

[00:23:10] of being ratified but during a replay review why are we giving teams a free time out yeah so during

[00:23:18] the review both teams have to go to the opposite sides of the court from their bench that's it

[00:23:24] they just cannot cross over the center court line now if coach wants to stand at his bench and

[00:23:29] yell well hey fellas remember we're gonna double number 32 well then that's that's fine yeah but

[00:23:35] we are gathering around with having juice boxes and orange slices uh we have the masseuses come out

[00:23:41] I think some of the guys run in and take a quick shower and change uniforms and I'm not exaggerating

[00:23:46] Paul that's actually happening yeah you could get us going man I still think if they would just

[00:23:51] change the way they do it and have like the guys up in the up in the booth upstairs or whatever

[00:23:56] just make the call because the all the time wasting is because the official has to run over and then

[00:24:01] everyone's yelling and everything else and he's trying and they say it's because they want the guy

[00:24:05] who's got the fuel for the game down on the court to make the call well if it's such a subjective

[00:24:09] thing then don't review it just make the call and move on it goes back to my overall

[00:24:14] screen against replay if it's not done in 30 seconds then the call stands let's go okay I've become

[00:24:21] a fan I've become more and more of a fan can I say some about this one more thing because you know

[00:24:25] you're in you're from the golf world right you have a very extensive golf background what's been one

[00:24:29] of the complaints about the game of golf right speed of play yeah the pace it's an event of speed

[00:24:33] of play and so they've done things they've changed roles they've done things to adjust

[00:24:37] and I can see with this the speed of play the continuity of play is what you're talking about

[00:24:43] you know you don't see in basketball anymore really is guys so out of breath that they're bent

[00:24:49] over you're gonna grab in their shorts bent over at the knees yeah because they don't play more than

[00:24:53] three consecutive minutes and any stretch yeah and the commercial breaks are a minute longer

[00:24:58] in the NCAA tournament than they are in the NBA that's crazy yeah you're gonna that's

[00:25:03] gonna bother you now that you know that every game you're watching it's just gonna frustrate well

[00:25:08] I'm thankful for the multi-view addition to YouTube TV they're close yeah because I do not sit

[00:25:16] on a game through commercials I will go somewhere else if there's another option now the

[00:25:20] the old to the woman's game next to the men's game in the most they've been pairing those up a bit

[00:25:25] I'll take some of those but the ultimate nails on the blackboard situation is when every game

[00:25:31] in your panel is a commercial break you're like no no no I have become a big fan of Purdue

[00:25:38] coach Matt Painter yeah I've never really listened to him talk very much because I don't

[00:25:43] I don't watch regular season and it's pretty good and basketball and it's Purdue and

[00:25:47] but they're good and of course as a big 10 guy you know my buddy Paul Miller has taught me conference

[00:25:52] first yes so I'm especially in March going conference first yeah they do have a very gifted big man

[00:25:58] Zach Edie is a good player he's not the greatest player ever but he's a very good player and he's

[00:26:05] seven two plus seven four seven four and in can handle the ball can handle it. Yes can run

[00:26:12] the floor can catch can finish has a nice hook shot and so Painter was asked after their

[00:26:19] their game on Sunday about the criticism that sometimes comes Edie's way about the fact that he's

[00:26:26] he's just another tall guy and if he was only six six we'd never have heard of him which is

[00:26:32] such a silly thing to say here's the coaches full response I played for you just a little cut of it

[00:26:37] at the outset of the episode today here's here's the full minute long answer which I love they

[00:26:42] just shouldn't cover basketball yeah you know and so like you go to school and you learn things or

[00:26:47] whatever but we all don't like every single class we're in right it's kind of a necessary evil

[00:26:52] it's like going to work like you don't like everybody you work with or you don't like certain parts

[00:26:56] of your job and you know it's tough right you got to be able to deal with like certain things that are

[00:27:01] difficult and so I just think everybody should like take tests on their knowledge of what they're

[00:27:06] doing like I think all coaches should take a test so they understand refereeing and I think all

[00:27:11] referees should take a test or they understand coaching and I think all journalists should have to

[00:27:15] take a basketball quiz or a test or anybody that tweets they should have to be able to do it and

[00:27:20] they say something so moronic is that then they should have to have a probationary status where they

[00:27:25] can't tweet for like three months I think it'll help like society you know like just try to knock out

[00:27:32] the fools you know so they don't have to you know meet at the local Walmart and say things that don't

[00:27:37] make any sense. Now I didn't really know why people were meeting at the local Walmart to have their

[00:27:42] sports conversation but the rest of it was really really on point yeah I wonder what Elon Musk would

[00:27:47] say yeah like let's just put people on Twitter probation for three months love that like you get

[00:27:52] put on Facebook probation every time you post about church view sports we have no idea why Paul is

[00:27:57] on Zuckerberg's target list I am but he just puts up a literally the same post that I do about

[00:28:03] church view and then you get struck down licensing something with a licensing violation mine don't get

[00:28:09] struck down just mine it's just it's just Paul so he's clearly made Zuckerberg with I'm on someone's

[00:28:15] list so I'm a list current as I do per do you know you talk about EDI in these seven foot four by

[00:28:20] the way they list them at seven four three hundred pounds he's not three hundred pounds is he?

[00:28:24] no I would say that definitely not but but either way I mean he's definitely in his two high

[00:28:29] twos but they also have the other big guy Trey Kaufman ran that really yes to you know because if

[00:28:35] they're covering EDI that leaves him open and that's how they won the last game if you know one was

[00:28:40] open the other one wasn't and they shot the lights out yesterday it was yeah they were on all

[00:28:46] the no cylinders I've got to take a quick diversion and make a quick phone call on church

[00:28:51] view sports to bring in a special guest because one of the things that we've been talking about

[00:28:57] in the last couple of weeks is our is our bracketology our church view sports bracket

[00:29:03] we've invited past guests we've invited anybody who entered in the prior year in and

[00:29:09] I'm terrible my my bracket is horrible and my head of Paul Paul right now am I leading you at least

[00:29:15] because I don't think so I got now I'm up I'm like in the 96 percentile nationally I'm doing

[00:29:21] I mean really yeah I'm looking at you you get a bumper sticker like my child is an honor role

[00:29:26] student at the elementary school we have a bracket or a challenge going with our family and my

[00:29:30] kids are like that if you win what do you what is that worth and I'm like it's bragging rights

[00:29:35] for a day well call it what it is there are some interesting developments happening in our

[00:29:39] bracket I just want to touch on a couple of them by bringing in a special guest who's just got

[00:29:43] a short window of time he is the senior pastor at Hopefield Church pastor Josh party Josh are you

[00:29:49] there I am how are we doing gentlemen we're doing well we've got Paul and myself and Kurt David

[00:29:56] is on with us and I've got the bracket open on my iPad in front of us and right now at the

[00:30:02] at the top of it is DRG go blue they're winning and then Spartan rice that's the young man that

[00:30:12] I think won it last year as I look further and further you see me in fourth right now further

[00:30:18] now you're in fourth denials in affirmation that's you've denied from yeah you don't know

[00:30:23] everybody's team name yeah I don't have the jerseys or the or the penance up in my room um my

[00:30:30] wife would not care for that if I put actual team logos up but down down in like 21st place there's

[00:30:36] there's a two-way tie between myself and one of the ladies that was dominating this competition

[00:30:42] last year Mary and then in the basement like dead last in the dungeon is Jen Wilson who was picking

[00:30:49] teams based on their mascot cuteness levels in a few of hers did not work but up in 19th place

[00:30:57] right now is a team entry called just beat amber saw that just beat amber now that's got a lot of

[00:31:06] potential explanations to it but in parentheses after it is JP so Josh party is that you

[00:31:14] uh yeah yes that is correct um since you're in 19th place I miss Josh man since you're in 19th

[00:31:23] place in our bracket how is the just beat amber effort holding up in the hope veiled church bracket

[00:31:30] yeah so I mean the little context here is I did not realize that changing my name it's kind of a

[00:31:38] staff inside joke thing at hope veiled with lots of history and I did not realize that changing

[00:31:46] my name in one bracket would then change it in the church uh pew sports one as well so you know

[00:31:55] a little bit of a learning curve a little bit of a rookie move there on my end um and to give you

[00:32:01] full feedback I don't know if i'm beating amber or not um so I have not looked so Josh the next

[00:32:08] question to come me from hearing the name of this bracket is who's amber uh amber is uh amber

[00:32:17] kneeling delightful person works on our staff uh helps in on our media teams but her and I have a

[00:32:24] friendly rivalry about pretty much everything um and so far and their staff witnesses to testify

[00:32:31] to this um I'm undefeated and so I know nothing about college basketball this year watched

[00:32:38] absolutely zero seconds of it all year but my only goal is just to be able to beat amber so is

[00:32:45] that is that is that matter of interest is that lack of interest in basketball because it related

[00:32:51] to juwan howard in anyway oh man uh i'm not even sure what you're talking about quite frankly on my

[00:32:57] TV I just keep rewatching the epic national run that our football team had just a little bit of

[00:33:03] watching hey man brother yeah i yeah i just watched through i mean we just be Penn State with 32 straight

[00:33:10] run plays there was one pass play called that was negated by penalty and then uh it was quite

[00:33:16] it was quite the scene i mean you know basically harvots yet the new delivered on the tarmac that he

[00:33:22] can't coach and charon more step thin and wins an emotional game for us and so uh yeah it's just

[00:33:28] been a great season just like a reprise of the football season all over again in my world so

[00:33:34] I think you can live on that for at least a few more months jash i do want you to go we will

[00:33:37] we will i do want you to know i will live on that for years it's decades

[00:33:41] years

[00:33:43] i think you know but yesterday in a sermon i even referenced i gave kudos to michael jordan in the

[00:33:48] bowl because i'm here to tell the truth you know i heard you did you for amber well we have put out

[00:33:55] it we have we have sent out the bat signal to amber to see if she could call into the podcast

[00:33:59] i don't know what her day is like but we'll we'll get an update on all of that and uh i know josh

[00:34:04] has a very busy day it's it's very unusual to see a team name so specifically directed at an

[00:34:11] individual um and especially during this week of peace and celebration you know it's holy week so

[00:34:18] we just want to make sure that everybody's okay and my guess is this is my guess this is just

[00:34:23] pure conjecture that if in the church pew bracket josh is in 19th out of 21st place

[00:34:30] he may not be beating amber in the other bracket i don't know because i haven't seen the whole

[00:34:34] failed bracket i just love that amber is on the staff at the church where josh is the senior pastor

[00:34:39] and when you're asking about amber his answer was she's a good person in general

[00:34:46] this will be followed up by a lot of explain and to do when this episode goes live uh by the way

[00:34:52] Kurt david who was um laying in bed recovering from major surgery is beating all of meeting

[00:34:58] not you paul but me he's in twelfth place and uh tied with david kellins and a couple of our other

[00:35:05] regular guests on here so josh we will uh press because yeah i started off i was watching i was like

[00:35:10] six for six to start off and then also they got all these red exes josh thank you

[00:35:15] appreciate it sitting on the line going let me let you turn up see you later um yeah i had

[00:35:20] for some reason i decided in putting together my brackets this year that i was going to find

[00:35:25] the team from a lower seed that would go on to win it all the surprise team i was going to

[00:35:30] mm no number one seeds are not going to be around that long they're not that strong except for

[00:35:34] Yukon and ever and so for some reason i went to texas tech and that lasted me until about Thursday at

[00:35:41] maybe three p.m. or whenever that time wasn't it was all over with baby by them the bobby night days

[00:35:48] right texas tech might have been in there yes thank him his days of coaching at texas tech by the way

[00:35:55] you guys are probably aware of this but maybe not everybody is at the same time as the men's

[00:36:00] tournament is taking place so is on espn the women's ncda march madness right and this is the

[00:36:08] katlyn clerk story and all of that stuff that's going on um some off the court news related items with

[00:36:17] the coach of ls you taking place um youtube tv mashing up your multi view so that you can have

[00:36:26] games from both tournaments on your screen at the same time they can trick you to click on a

[00:36:30] women's game just so they can boost ratings they did that to me except i saw one of those games

[00:36:36] featured michigan and i thought well that can't be we're i know we're not in any tournament this year

[00:36:42] and then i saw the w down there yeah so let's start with the katlyn clerk side of things this

[00:36:47] this is a one woman dynamo when it comes to moving the needle for viewership and attendance in

[00:36:54] in the women's game she's selling out games where she's playing she's a generational player she's

[00:37:00] an incredible talent and all those things are true and she's really really good and so is her

[00:37:05] iowa team um i'm i don't know how to say this the right way except that it has become clear

[00:37:17] that there is an intentional focus on the part of the officials to make sure that katlyn's team

[00:37:21] gets to continue playing that's the michael jordan rules oh it's like always playing there was

[00:37:28] certain certain things that occurred and didn't occur but

[00:37:30] and when you become beloved which is what i call it right she's beloved right now she's

[00:37:36] beloved by the media she's beloved and embraced by the social media and it's it's helped her to

[00:37:41] become this icon of of nil this icon of you know the sport and like you said in the same sense you

[00:37:51] get this l ls you thing going on where there's a little band-ring going on between her and a former

[00:37:57] player and what might be happening with that i think the biggest thing is especially in women's

[00:38:02] sports they're looking for something positive to grab to to really help elevate it right you see

[00:38:08] it in the soccer world um there you know the the woman's sport side of things is escalating as far

[00:38:14] media rights you know you're seeing bigger and bigger contracts and ever before in women's sports

[00:38:20] and i think with katlyn Clark they found somebody who was very charismatic she's very colorful on and

[00:38:25] off the floor um she's not afraid to speak her mind or opinion in most of time in a in a positive way

[00:38:32] right uh though players that play against her say she does a lot of john right she'll do a lot of

[00:38:37] john and the floor well we had some good video of her enjoying to her father in the stands about how

[00:38:44] she wasn't getting the calls and he did what we would love to see more sports parents do which is

[00:38:50] to holler back at their kids shut up shut up and play and that's what he did it was so unusual to see

[00:38:56] it because she had her hands out like whoa what are you doing and he's like shut up and play the game

[00:39:02] yeah the cameras of course the cameras were on him uh but katlyn as Kirk said is not afraid to speak

[00:39:07] her opinion here's one of the opinions that she shared after they're uh the iowa teams most recent

[00:39:13] victory i don't know if there's been like a lot of little moments i think um i think just the crowds

[00:39:18] at our games but also just like the people screaming and like wanting our autographs like

[00:39:23] like people just scream my name constantly and i think that's something that really never gets

[00:39:26] older something you never take for granted i think even like when you're out and about like

[00:39:30] doing your own things living your personal life the people that come up to you and like really

[00:39:34] support your team and understand the game um i think that's the coolest thing but i think also

[00:39:38] just in general like the excitement around this tournament like it's super cool like people are

[00:39:41] more excited about the woman side than men's side and i think that's obviously something that's

[00:39:45] really never been the case before and it's cool to see how it's evolved like when i first started

[00:39:50] this when i was a freshman like we couldn't even use the march man as branding and now to see this and

[00:39:54] really it's it's just taking a whole nother level and i continue it i expected to continue to grow

[00:39:59] this year and i think that's the coolest thing for myself all right oh she's like she's

[00:40:06] three degrees away from being a percent spot on yeah give her you know she if she does one more lap

[00:40:12] in that direction she's might as well be on the u.s. women's national soccer team hanging out with

[00:40:17] Megan Rapinoe and that's the problem the only tweak to the whole phrasing that i would have

[00:40:22] suggested would be the women's game is more popular right now than it has ever been has ever

[00:40:28] because that's true yeah that's absolutely true but i i heard another announcer during one of the

[00:40:33] ladies games and i again i watched a portion of one of them i think it was her game uh make the same

[00:40:40] case and used as the evidence that ticket prices for the women's final four the lowest ticket price

[00:40:51] is higher than the lowest ticket price for the men's final four that that was the i mean it took you

[00:40:58] while to get there but that's what the point was and i i kind of sat there for a minute in my

[00:41:02] chair and i thought well i guess that would be something you could verify by going on to stub hub or

[00:41:07] whatever until we remember that generally speaking the women's final four is played in a in a fairly

[00:41:15] NBA-sized arena so 16 to 18 to 20 thousand seats and the men usually play it like the alamo dome

[00:41:22] right or a Ford field where i guess you probably could end up paying 250 to sit in the upper

[00:41:29] roll of the whole place so i just it doesn't make that big of a difference i'm glad that katelyn's

[00:41:35] team is doing well and that the sport is thriving and it's all good i just i get i get my red flags go

[00:41:42] up by outlandish hyperbolic statements yeah but to me this is this is a great example of how media

[00:41:49] and social media really can elevate somebody or something very very quickly and what i mean by quickly

[00:41:55] is you know you think about it katelyn clerk was not a household name a year ago right if you

[00:42:02] would have said katelyn clerk it's like okay actually plays at iowa but this year is the year that

[00:42:06] put her on the map but put iowa on the map granted winning helps winning definitely helps in fact

[00:42:13] that's one of the things i was going to bring up about south carolina south carolina spank north

[00:42:16] carolina the other day and if you saw that south carolina is 33 and oh right now they beat north

[00:42:22] carolina by 40 points in the tournament and so they're just spanking people but you know social media

[00:42:30] has a very very powerful influence and i think you know she's capitalizing on this i think that's

[00:42:35] part of the n.i.l. thing people are realizing that influence is where it's at and she has a lot

[00:42:41] of influence and so i don't know if we want to open up that can of worms but that's just another

[00:42:46] caveat into that in my opinion yeah katelyn my i think i'm with you bill as long as she's not the one

[00:42:53] driving the narrative then it's probably going to continue to go that way if she just takes a humble

[00:42:59] posture says this is a crazy ride i'm so thankful for all the support that i've been getting

[00:43:05] and everything else but when she's when she turns it on herself it's like lebron go and give me my

[00:43:10] respect right and then which you never heard a guy like jordan's have to ask for it and then he

[00:43:15] says i'm not really comfortable being praised yeah in the next in the next but give me my respect

[00:43:20] so as the spotlight increases on the women's game and on the women's tournament that also

[00:43:25] brings with it a little bit more scrutiny we move over to the ls u coach who is um she's an abrasive

[00:43:31] personality i don't think that's an offensive thing to say i think kim moky is considered to be largely

[00:43:37] on the on the leading edge of comfort when it comes to interactions and apparently there's a

[00:43:44] story about to come out in the washington post i don't even have any idea what it's about and

[00:43:49] frankly i don't really care yeah what we're going to talk about is her press conference reaction

[00:43:56] to this imminent drop of this story because in her own words the washington post has been

[00:44:04] after her for two years to comment on a story and then last week they gave her a final chance

[00:44:12] in two days notice all right so that's the that's the setting under which this commentary was shared

[00:44:20] i'm fed up and i'm not going to let the washington post attack this universe this awesome team of young

[00:44:27] women i have or me without a fight i've heard the best defamation law firm in the country

[00:44:37] and i will sue the washington post if they publish a false story about me

[00:44:44] so there's an adage in journalism and in in public relations and i know paul knows it i know

[00:44:51] curt knows it never make a one day story into a two week drama right if i had played her entire four

[00:45:01] minute sound bite from that press conference you would understand vow dust protest too much

[00:45:07] much it's kind of like the odds of me actually wanting to read that washington post were zero we're

[00:45:15] maybe less than one percent until she started protesting right so loudly and all she's done is

[00:45:24] increase my interest in reading the story and and distractions from her team exactly nothing's

[00:45:31] going to distract from my team in this universe except for me as a head coach and my pregame press

[00:45:35] are talking about me going on this rant that was my first thought hearing that sound bite was wow

[00:45:42] what is this article what is this that's coming out that really i mean it just did put more emphasis

[00:45:47] on it obviously it's a big deal yeah up until then i don't think anybody really didn't know

[00:45:52] gave a care about any of it and here we are now like hey well is that article oh yet

[00:45:58] yeah yeah maybe post article you can have a rant like that yeah you could go back and say i take

[00:46:02] issue with what's been published and and i'm going to be taking legal action the preemptive strike

[00:46:07] i love that she's in her press conference talking about her team and then she's complaining

[00:46:12] that it's distracting from her team when she's the one making the distraction i'm fed up

[00:46:17] we should just i'm gonna grab that and put it into the holy discontent open at some point

[00:46:21] that's good yeah okay so whether it's the men's kind of tournament or the ladies tournament

[00:46:27] we know that there's one commonality for all successful teams they call them free throws for a reason

[00:46:36] there's nobody playing defense Kurt what was your career free throw percentage

[00:46:42] oh my goodness i just thought about it's great i'm like fifth great i don't know

[00:46:47] whatever far back you have to go for the number to be like eighty five or a half

[00:46:51] it can be yeah i'm trying to think uh you know i'd like to say it was in the eighties but

[00:46:57] you know that that you know that's when i played so i don't know i'll just i'll use that number i guess

[00:47:02] well we'll go with it and we won't even go back and check yeah i won't i won't call former

[00:47:06] s i d tom wasky and ask him to dig up their numbers but we have seen in some of these games with

[00:47:12] the the the the Cinderella team having chances to win if you look back at it you can often see

[00:47:19] what's happening at the free throw stripe and we i can't remember the game it might have been

[00:47:24] grand canyon but somebody just missed seventeen free throws and lost by like six yeah yeah

[00:47:30] that's a crusher Houston A&M what were you looking at yeah that's my game of the tournament so far

[00:47:35] and it's partially because my daughter goes to university of houston and so we got to hear gym

[00:47:40] nance moderate the parent welcome stuff oh right moving yeah it was really fun oh please um so

[00:47:46] they're playing texas a&m it's a huge game it's a rivalry game and four players from university of

[00:47:54] houston have filed out oh wow it's an overtime and they have a walk on who's out on the court because

[00:48:02] they don't have anybody else to put out there and who do you think's gonna get fouled and sent to

[00:48:07] the free throw line is this guy what is Ryan Elvin walk on walk on senior walk on has taken like

[00:48:15] three or four free throws i don't know if it was in the entire year or whatever it was career yeah

[00:48:20] but he gets fouled and he goes to the line they're winning by three seventeen seconds left in

[00:48:28] overtime and he's going to the line it was great that's cool it was so much tension i don't

[00:48:35] know if you have the clip but yeah okay yeah we have a little commentary from that actual moment in

[00:48:40] the game there it is

[00:48:47] didn't know the groom's so small down on the farm trash talk there it is

[00:48:54] hey don't worry about that okay he's concentrating on what you're doing put him in the hole

[00:48:58] all right he will go

[00:49:01] i just when he was stepping up to the line i'm like i'm totally flashing on

[00:49:06] hosers yes it took me back to aley at the free throw line and the guy bumping into him and saying

[00:49:12] that didn't know the groom's so small down he becomes the hero yeah and this kid

[00:49:18] uh see by the way a senior walk on has put in a lot of years of grunt work and being beaten up on

[00:49:23] and probably never thought he would see the floor and then you watch your teammates all start

[00:49:27] following out you're like hey let me do some math here real quick i might be playing here's

[00:49:31] always great about it right like it's it's like almost past midnight but i'm up watching the game

[00:49:36] and he gets fouled he's walking the line his teammates gather all around him he goes one for two

[00:49:42] he hits the second one and then they talk to and it puts helps put the game out of reach because

[00:49:46] it makes it a two possession game with fifteen seconds left or whatever they asked jimalshad

[00:49:52] who's the star of the team after the game they asked him about that moment and his response was

[00:49:57] classic he goes i was surprised that he missed the first one wow that was all he said about it

[00:50:02] i thought that was just genius by him now he had his back really good was really good well we've

[00:50:08] got a lot of basketball left in the days ahead we wanted to sneak this conversation in right after

[00:50:12] that first weekend and will will of course we'll continue to follow up on what's happening in

[00:50:17] March madness we're also getting closer to opening day of baseball and we've got things happen

[00:50:22] we've got an NFL draft coming up we've already been denied credentials by the NFL so i guess

[00:50:27] things are right on schedule which i guess i'm jumping the gun let's get into holy disc content

[00:50:31] here for a quick moment it's time to blow off some steam get it off your chest rent about what's

[00:50:41] most bothering you i got a lot of problems with you people now you're gonna hear about it it's time

[00:50:47] for holy disc content and that's my holy disc content the NFL would not approve church

[00:50:53] pieces for it to cover the NFL draft to Detroit i'm not giving up on this yet it's there's

[00:50:58] there's an appeal process and we are going to enter it highly efficient at the end of replay i

[00:51:02] thought you were gonna pull back out the replay again no i got that on standby that's like that's

[00:51:06] like on a constant loop i can use that anytime i always triggered for bill so paul is yours your

[00:51:12] HD or is it Kirk Farences holy disc content i'm not really sure i just think it's an interesting

[00:51:18] story to talk about a caden proctor iowa guy goes to university of Alabama a place for a year

[00:51:27] talks about how he's stressed out and homesick and he transfers back to iowa signs a couple of

[00:51:34] NIL deals you know it does his offseason workouts with iowa but a couple months back into it he enters

[00:51:41] the transfer portal again so he can go back to Alabama and take some of his iowa NIL money with him

[00:51:52] and so there's all this conversation about it and Kirk Farence who has a chance

[00:51:57] to do a really high level rant like i wonder how nixabin would have uh whomever would have handled

[00:52:04] a situation like this but Kirk Farence just well let's we can listen to how he decided to handle

[00:52:09] it with the meat but the press and through gritted teeth yeah it is unfortunate that caden has

[00:52:14] informed us of his intentions to leave our program today or we wish him well in the future

[00:52:22] sure he played us for suckers and pocketed the lion's share of our limited NIL money resources

[00:52:28] but the good news is he did not take a copy of our playbook with him so we won't have to change

[00:52:33] a single thing uh schematically and that should really excite iowa fans this fall

[00:52:39] because iowa is a juggernaut offensively their playbook is on a business card it has got one play

[00:52:46] in it it's called runoff right tackle there's my son Brian who assured me that he didn't take his

[00:52:51] playbook with him i'm sorry Kirk man show us some leadership yeah i can just show some leadership

[00:52:57] you've got the NIL collectives from your university that are getting on x to dispute the fact that

[00:53:03] he took the money everyone's scrambling to cover your leadership deficiencies Kirk stand up call it out

[00:53:11] move on that is that is pretty good stuff all right let's move on and get it and I'm get it

[00:53:17] and I'm get it some things in life and in sports make no sense you just blew my mind this is help me

[00:53:23] understand right here on church puse sports i don't get it i don't get it i don't get it i don't get it

[00:53:31] okay uh Kirk this is for you what when something happens in the world of sports that's a little

[00:53:36] confusing we try to talk to our experts and see if they can help us sort it out so you being

[00:53:41] our basketball expert we would love for you to listen to this post game presser from bill self

[00:53:49] after Kansas lost to i'm blanking on who they lost to who did they lose to i don't know because it

[00:53:55] ends aga could have been anyways they lost and bill self is at the microphone after the game

[00:54:03] and here's what he had to say you know we've got a stall for about five more seconds while i

[00:54:08] load in that sound by because i thought i had already done so i thought i was winding up enough

[00:54:13] for you to agree please here we go here we go but we could have done a much better job as a staff

[00:54:21] putting more guys out there that we could play and so that's something that i've thought about

[00:54:26] for a long time and and the thing think about isn't basketball you know early on

[00:54:35] you can play through some things but the course of a season there's a grind that goes with it

[00:54:41] and and bodies get run down injuries occur that's all part of it and when you don't have as

[00:54:47] as much firepower or as you know that that maybe you've had in past years is certainly showed this year

[00:54:56] what is he saying there is he throwing his team under the bus i kept waiting for him to go

[00:55:01] lands for the plane yeah i don't know curty got anything i know you have to go here in like two minutes

[00:55:06] to another call yeah i think the biggest thing is that you know the coaches tend the best coaches

[00:55:10] tend to own it right as they always say in sports especially in basketball wins go to the players

[00:55:16] losses go to the coach right that's the best coaches i know that's the way they approach it

[00:55:20] the k you know if we lost i'm on a net there's something we can do better whether it be practice or

[00:55:24] tactical or whatever it is and the best coaches like us display that that championship that winning

[00:55:32] to the players okay they played great you know the team did great you know they beat us they were

[00:55:36] a better team than us tonight but yeah there was a lot of you know we're seeing it more and more

[00:55:41] a lot of self a lot of self in sports a lot of those players yeah there's no question about it

[00:55:48] but i do have to go in two minutes but i do i have one discontent that i want to bring

[00:55:52] up i know we're going over that home but the the the transfer portal when i hear

[00:55:59] that almost one thousand players out of two thousand are in a transfer portal and you hear it

[00:56:05] during the games right when they're announcing players during the game well this player came from

[00:56:11] Vermont this player last year was at Virginia Tech it's amazing the amount of players and if

[00:56:18] you look at the rosters now they actually show the previous college that they're at before they came

[00:56:23] there it's permeating sports very strongly right now and i wish the nca would get a handle on that

[00:56:30] as far as to make some more rules and regulations to otherwise coaches are now recruiting

[00:56:36] each every year they have to recruit their teams every single year as a result yeah

[00:56:40] there was one team and i don't remember which team because it happened on Thursday but

[00:56:44] every let me say it correctly every player that scored for that team in that game

[00:56:52] was on a different team the prior year yeah every every scoring player the wild wild west

[00:56:57] man literally Kurt thanks man i know you have to run appreciate it and we're glad you're feeling

[00:57:01] better and on the man man we'll be praying for you to be with you guys keep going

[00:57:05] appreciate it Kurt David checking out to go onto another probably a bigger podcast at this time

[00:57:10] you think i just sorry here we go right now this minute today this week

[00:57:21] yeah we are joining forces for this week's that guy and it's it's like that team of social media

[00:57:27] coordinators right that's our that's our that guy yeah i our shout out this week goes to the

[00:57:32] Yale MB&B uh x account or twitter account that's not Yale men's basketball that's right right

[00:57:42] the Yale molecular biophysics and biochemistry i've pulled up their twitter feed or their x feed

[00:57:50] in front of me it actually says under the description Yale molecular bio physics and biochemistry

[00:57:54] and then parenthetically it says not at Yale men's basketball they were getting flooded so

[00:58:00] they were getting uh mistagged uh it says the the tweet from two days ago was our notification

[00:58:08] this is after they beat who did Yale beat Auburn uh yeah yeah yeah our notifications are blowing

[00:58:15] up with basketball tweets but we are the Yale molecular bio physics and biochemistry account

[00:58:19] you might want to tag Yale men's basketball instead

[00:58:23] booboo it's so good dick fight how tag them incorrectly they've had all these other

[00:58:31] they just got a tweet from under armor basketball where they're they're replied to

[00:58:38] the under armor was Yale molecular bio physics and biochemistry when do we get our merch

[00:58:43] our under armor merch and all the things and march madness that incidentally march madness

[00:58:49] twitter is talking about how easy it is to mix up the two yaddy yaddy yadda they're having a lot

[00:58:54] of fun with it and anytime social media can be lighthearted yeah for the better good time it's

[00:59:01] for that sure all right let's wrap things up with our three-minute message

[00:59:06] uh homer i'd like you to remember Matthew 726 the foolish man who built his house on sound

[00:59:13] and you remember Matthew 2117 and he left them and went out of the city into Bethany and he

[00:59:23] lodged there yeah think about it think about it yeah i love i love march madness we all do it's

[00:59:32] it's a great sporting event and we're gonna for our three-minute message today go back to

[00:59:39] the heuston an m game and ryan elven step into the free throw line and his teammates rallying around

[00:59:46] them around him and then talking about him afterwards um the verse i want to read for us is first

[00:59:53] peter 410 which says each of you should use whatever gift you have received to serve others

[00:59:59] as faithful stewards of god's grace in its various forms you might ask me why that verse okay so

[01:00:05] here's here's why so ryan elven is a walk on he's running the scout team every day in practice

[01:00:14] first team and then in his moment he shines right he hits the free throw makes it a two-possession

[01:00:20] game and his teammates have his back and they're talking about how they're there they weren't

[01:00:26] surprised that he hit the free throw etc etc it reminds me of how important it is for us to be

[01:00:34] in as christians as jesus followers to be in community to be in a foxhole with a group of brothers

[01:00:40] and i and it brought to mind for me a quote from deatric bonhoffer one of my favorite authors

[01:00:44] from his book life together where here's what he says the christian needs another christian who speaks

[01:00:50] god's word to him he needs him again and again when he becomes uncertain and discouraged

[01:00:58] for by himself he cannot help himself without belying the truth okay he needs him again and again

[01:01:05] when he becomes uncertain yeah is ryan elven more or less likely to hit that free throw when he comes

[01:01:11] out of the huddle with his teammates and they've got his back and they're with him and they're in it

[01:01:14] with them and then bonhoffer goes on to say he needs his brother as a bearer and proclaimer of the

[01:01:20] divine word of salvation he needs his brother solely because of jesus christ the christian his own

[01:01:26] heart is weaker than the christ in the word of his brother his own heart is uncertain his brothers

[01:01:34] is sure so if the rhythm of your life is such that you don't have brothers around you then when

[01:01:41] you find yourself in those moments where your own heart is uncertain then you're stuck because

[01:01:47] you don't have the christ in the heart of your brother to come around you and encourage you

[01:01:53] and lift you up and say you can do this i got you you know and all that kind of stuff ryan elven

[01:01:58] felt it in the heusten game bonhoffer calls it out in his book life together and we all should live

[01:02:03] by that we all need a brotherhood we all need a fox hole like that where we have other jesus

[01:02:10] followers other brothers around us other brothers and sisters around us who

[01:02:15] can bring confidence and the word of jesus to us when we can't find it in our own heart and so

[01:02:21] if you don't have that it's probably something your church could help you find if you haven't

[01:02:27] if you haven't gotten connected start by joining a small group whatever the next step is for you

[01:02:32] but i just think we saw play out in the in the heusten game last night and

[01:02:36] it's a good word for us to take into our week yeah sure is and speaking of reconnecting and maybe

[01:02:43] establishing that band of brothers in your world here we are we're recording this on monday morning

[01:02:49] of easter week of holy week yeah maybe this is the week that you use to reset things and maybe

[01:02:55] yet maybe this is the determination there'll be so many families coming to churches for the first

[01:03:00] time or the only time all year maybe this is that time when you have a little system reset this

[01:03:05] week and determine that you're going to be part of encouraging or just connecting with the

[01:03:10] band of brothers so i really appreciate you all listening thank you to curt david for joining us

[01:03:15] josh party putting in a little cameo with us and when we gather next time we'll update the brackets

[01:03:20] again i'm pretty sure i know where i'll still be residing which is firmly in the basement but that's

[01:03:24] that's all right okay enjoy march madness and uh we've got the masters coming we've got

[01:03:29] baseball we've got the draft the dead period is over so enjoy uh please share the link uh to

[01:03:36] search few sports with somebody else in your world and we will talk to you next time

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