CHM 105:The Good and the Beautiful: Interview with Jenny Phillips

Hi, I'm Demetria and you're listening to the Christian Homeschool Moms Podcast.

So welcome to the Christian Homeschool Moms Podcast.

If you are new to the podcast, I want to welcome you and thank you for listening in.

So this podcast is all about encouraging moms of faith, of the Christian faith to continue on your journey in home education if this is what you feel that you've been called to do.

So you that that's what this podcast is all about.

And I love bringing you interviews with other homeschool moms who have brought a lot to the table in the homeschool community, who are offering their products, resources, and services and who just really bring a lot to the table.

So I love to interview moms who are homeschooling and who can help us just by sharing their experiences.

Also love to just hop on the mic sometimes and share what I've been going through and how maybe that can help you as well.

So I'm really big on encouragement in this podcast, so today's encouragement will come from another mom who's also a curriculum writer.

On my last episode, we shared an interview with Belinda Bullard, who is the author of A Blessed Heritage.

She she created her own curriculum based on her needs for finding diversity in history.

And so I highly recommend listening to that episode if you haven't already, it's episode 104.

And just go back and listen into that if you haven't, because I think Belinda has a lot to bring to the table.

Also, if you go back and further in the archives, you can find a variety of topics that will hopefully help to encourage you, because that's what this podcast is all about.

So going further back, I have podcasts about how to get into your back to homeschool groove and making your homeschool unique.

Am I doing enough in my homeschool homeschool planning when you're feeling like you're behind schedule, homeschool encouragement for when you feel the burn, beat the blahs and find joy in your homeschool, how to tackle homeschool planning in proactive mode, and so forth.

So.

So there are quite a few episodes here for encouragement where I just literally get on the mic and just share with you what's on my heart.

Because maybe I'm going through that at the moment and I figure if I am, then somebody else is as well.

And so that's my way of just saying, hey, I want to encourage you as I encourage myself.

And then you'll get to benefit from that, hopefully.

But Recently I have been doing more interviews and so before Belinda, we interviewed Julie Bogart, a brave writer.

So that would be episode 103.

And so I encourage you to just listen in on those if you're new to this podcast and just spend a little time seeing what is here and what I offer.

Today I do want to interview another mom who not only homeschools her five children, but she has created a marvelous curriculum that has blown us out of the water at our house.

We love this curriculum.

It has changed the way we do homeschool.

It has totally just resonated with us because we are more into the Charlotte Mason method these days and it has really been helpful to me for my now 4th grader.

So I want to introduce you to Jenny Phillips.

Jenny is a Christian songwriter and music producer and she's shared her love of music across the world.

She's spoken at over 1000 events in 23 countries and she sold over a million CDs.

So not only that, but when her children began to go to school, she turned toward another one of her passions, which is education.

And she began homeschooling in an effort to provide a faith based high academic education which she focuses on building noble character.

So Ginny realized her vision for her curriculum was going to be a huge task and she wanted to share it with other people.

So she ended up hiring a team of editors, writers, educators, designers and illustrators.

And so just a few years ago In August of 2015, she launched her curriculum which is the Good and the Beautiful.

So I don't want to over explain what the Good and the Beautiful is because I first want to allow you the opportunity to listen in on the interview with the creator and the author of this curriculum so that you can hear it straight from her.

And one more thing that I just want to mention before we get into the interview is that on my blog, ChristianHomeschoolMoms.com you can find a recent post I just uploaded actually on November 16, 2017 and it's called Unboxing the Good and the Beautiful Level 4.

If you go and click on this post it will show you everything that I received in the Level 4 Language Arts and history.

And I also included a video which my daughter and I uploaded to YouTube not too long ago.

And it just shows everything up close and personal so that you can see all the little details and everything that I love about the language arts and the history Level four curriculum.

So this will give you an idea of what it looks like and what it feels like.

And I will be posting also how we're implementing this in our home to my YouTube channel, which is Momzest.

Okay.

So I just wanted to let you know about that, and I will leave a link to the unboxing review and the video on the show notes of this episode.

All right, so we're going to get straight into the interview now, and I'll be back at the end to wrap things up.

But for now, I want to get straight into my conversation with Jenny.

All right, thank you so much for.

Joining me here today, Jenny.

I'm so grateful to have you on the podcast and to have a chance to speak with you.

Thanks for having me.

You're welcome.

You've accomplished so much, and I'm sure our listeners want to hear it all.

So let's just start with some basic introductions, and we want to get to know you better.

So tell us about yourself and your family.

And I do hear that you have some experience in the music industry, so maybe you can just share a little bit about your background with music as well.

Sure.

Yeah.

So my husband and I have five children, and they're 17, 15, 10, 7, and 3.

So we have quite a range, all sorts of phases of life going on in our house, which is really fun.

And so I started doing music songwriting when I was a little girl, but it wasn't until I was in college, actually, didn't have very much confidence in my.

In my songwriting and my singing, and nobody even really knew that I.

That I did music.

And I was in college, and I had a really great roommate who heard me playing a song once, and she's like, did you.

You write that?

And she made me start playing it for everybody.

And, you know, long story short, I ended up recording and releasing my first CD right before I got married and went on from there to sell over a million CDs and performed all over the world.

My husband and I traveled to about 25 different countries, and we took our kids with us when they were younger, which was they loved.

And we did about 1100 performances.

But it started getting really difficult once my children started getting older and had all their activities and things like that.

And that's also when my heart really turned to education, when I started educating my own children.

Wow, I love that.

So you just kind of your journey started with music, and then you transitioned into education.

So music and writing definitely correlate, especially with songwriting.

But I am curious to know as to, you know, how you made the transition into curriculum writing.

I know you said that your heart was turned that way.

So I guess my next set of questions have to do with how you got started in curriculum writing and what prompted you to begin writing your own curriculum, which is the good and the beautiful.

So I was actually an English major in college.

That's what my degree was in, because I love to write as well.

Not just lyrics, but all writing.

I worked as a magazine editor while I was in college, and then while I was saving up money to do my first cd, I worked as a technical writer, did a lot of writing, and literature was just a big passion of mine.

And so.

So when I started educating home.

Educating my own children, I was really passionate about them wanting to love good literature.

And I did not start out with home education.

My children were in public school, and it was the literature that they were reading that was one of the first things that made me realize that they weren't getting the kind of literature that wanted them to be reading.

And there was so much disrespect and low character in.

In the literature.

And so then I really saw it affecting.

Affecting their lives and their character.

And there's a.

There's a whole story about why I started homeschooling that we could probably spend the whole time on.

So I won't spend too much time on that.

But once I did bring them home, I really researched curriculums intensely because it was really important to me to get.

To get the right ones.

And we tried so many curriculums, and for one reason or another, they.

They just were not working for us.

And I thought, okay, well, I know how to write.

I know how to put.

I had even done some teaching.

I'm like, I know how to put this together.

And I started putting the materials together for my own children and just found that it was so effective because I was.

Before getting the pencil thrown across the room and the, you know, not wanting to do, not.

Not excited about their grammar or their literature, like, anything like that.

But then once I created my own curriculum, I saw them responding so well, and I thought, you know what?

I already have a company that's shipping stuff out every day that has customer support with my music, because I was doing that independently at that time.

I said, I'll just add.

You know, I had, like, two levels.

I'm like, I'll just add those to it.

But if I'm gonna do that, then I'm really gonna do it right.

And, you know, I was really blessed to have the funding that had come from my music, because we used to all of that to put into the curriculum.

And so I spent a couple of years and met with reading specialists, dyslexia specialists, teachers and educators, and homeschool moms, and testing the curriculum out and really refining it.

Put a big team together and just decided that I was going to release it for all of the moms out there.

Wow.

I'm glad you did.

I'm really glad.

Thank you.

I have much to say about that in this podcast, so we'll get to that really soon.

And I'm excited about what you're offering,.

But one of the things that I.

Find really, really cool is that you were.

You're a songwriter, and it seems that your work as a songwriter may have influenced the.

Just your ability to create and to write a curriculum as well.

I'm wondering how those two correlate or if there is a correlation.

Do you see any connection there?

Yeah.

Well, that's interesting.

And maybe it has something to do with why I ended up naming it the Good and the Beautiful.

Because I think songwriter, you kind of.

You notice things in life, like, you notice those little good things, those little beautiful things, and that's what sparks an idea for a song.

You know, you're walking along and you see one.

One of my songs was sparked because I was weeding, and I was so frustrated.

There were so many weeds.

And I looked up after having my head down at these weeds for, like, an hour, and I looked up, and this beautiful red bird flew by me, and I saw the clouds, and I was like, oh, I've been having my head down this whole time.

And that sparked, like, a whole song.

And so I feel like maybe with being a songwriter, it helped me to be able to recognize the importance of recognizing those good and beautiful things around you.

And I think that got incorporated into the literature.

But I think as well, like, being a songwriter, being a performer is.

It's a lot of work.

And I think it really helped me to learn how to, like, work hard and to focus my time so that I could accomplish things and do those things.

So I think it also helped me to develop some of the characteristics that I would need to do this.

Right.

Right.

Yeah.

I mean, being a songwriter, it's artistic and being able to see the little.

Nuances and things that are happening in.

Our everyday life and just grab an idea from that and idea sparks from that.

And I think that's what makes your curriculum, I believe, so inviting and just something kids just want to dig into and that parents want to dig into with their children.

So, you know, we live in this information overload era, and there's Just so much out there to choose from.

And I have a hard time selecting just even a simple brand of toothpaste.

Nowadays in the high school market, it just seems to be the same thing.

There's so much to choose.

And while it's a blessing to have so many options, it can also be perplexing to try to figure it all out, especially when parents are just trying to pull together from different resources by different companies.

And that's just something we do as homeschool parents.

We're always trying to pull together curricula and make everything kind of jive and gel and work together.

So what I noticed about the Good and the Beautiful is how much of it is contained.

And I feel like it reduces the amount of time that homeschool parents actually need to hunt down different resources.

So I want to back up and ask you what you feel makes this curriculum so different than many of the others out on the market right now, and what were some goals that you wanted to accomplish when developing the Good and the Beautiful?

Okay, great.

Yeah.

So as a homeschool mom myself, I was just so overwhelmed with having to pull out a spelling program and then having to pull out a phonics program, having to pull out a grammar program, and then literature, and then geography and then art for every child.

And so that's one of the first things that I thought.

I want to combine all of this so I don't have to have seven or eight different workbooks to keep track of.

And all the time that it takes to do those.

And also just connecting the learning together by combining all of those subjects together in the way that we do, it just gives learning more meaning.

And I felt like that was just one of the big things that was missing from education in our world in general.

It's just.

It's lacking the meaning that kids are connecting to it.

And especially with topics like language arts.

Right.

Grammar.

How many children like doing their black and white grammar sheet?

And so that's one of the first things I started doing with my children, is putting a piece of artwork in front of them that was beautiful.

And we would talk about it, and that's how they would learn adjectives, as we would talk about.

We would find some of the nouns that were in there, and then we would talk about the adjectives that describe that noun.

And they're learning grammar through artwork and through different things, and they were loving it, which was one of my goals.

But we're able to do it all in less time because we're doing our art while we're doing our grammar and it's all combined.

So the main goals that I had was to bring the good and the beautiful into learning.

Nature, family, faith, high moral character, all of those things.

And then to make it less overwhelming by combining those subjects and then less expensive because I was blown away at how expensive homeschool curriculums were.

And, and, and it's hard too because, you know, there's a lot of reimbursement program programs out there that will reimburse you for homeschoolers for curriculum, but it can't be faith based.

And I was just so sad to feel like these families that are being so faithful and they want to, to raise their children on faith based materials are like being penalized.

And so I just had such a passion.

My employees are always telling me, you gotta raise your prices.

And I told them, I'm not raising them.

Like we are saying, we're staying true to our mission.

We are trying to help these homeschool moms be able to have faith based curriculum that, you know, that is, that is affordable.

Well, I'm so glad that you've made.

That part of your mission.

And that is absolutely something that's needed in our community and homeschooling.

And you're right.

There are a lot of charter schools and just reimbursement programs for parents who are unable to use faith based materials specifically for their school structure.

So it's good when you're able to afford that and you can buy good and the beautiful and to be able to use that in your homeschool.

So I've really been enjoying it.

And one of the first things I noticed about the good and the beautiful is the richness of the artwork.

And you mentioned that a few minutes ago.

I just think that each image, each picture that you selected is just, it's absolutely stunning visual.

And my daughter stops to stare at it for really a long time.

She really loves it.

She just drinks in the, just the richness of the artwork.

And that's exactly how I wanted her to respond to art.

And definitely one of my goals in introducing art appreciation history to her.

So I can tell that this was definitely a key player in your.

The way you developed your curriculum.

And once again, I wanted to ask you, like, how important was it for you to include artwork by different artists?

Because I did notice there were different artists.

And why was that important to you?

Well, I just feel like there is so much beautiful artwork out there.

I was surprised when I started researching and finding.

I was like, why did I never learn about all these artists, they're incredible.

When I went to school, I learned about three or four main artists that we've all heard of before.

And they're wonderful.

But there's just this treasure trove of this beautiful art that's out there.

And a lot of it, people aren't even aware of it anymore.

It's just wonderful to be able to bring it back.

It's amazing, like you said, that your daughter just shrinks it in.

It's amazing how much children love art, especially when you put the right art in front of them.

That's good and beautiful art, I think.

But I just noticed, like with my own daughter, it's fun for me with all the work that goes in this, to see my own children benefiting from it.

Because we, we've gone through it with my kids and my 8 year old, we got a new book in the mail.

And she goes, mom, look at this cover.

Look at the shades in the clouds.

It's just amazing.

Like she started all these things that I'm like, wow.

She's like connecting it now to real life.

And what a gift to give your child that they can see the world around them.

They can see a book cover and they sit there and look at it and feel joy from, you know, the beauty that they're seeing because they've learned how to recognize it.

Yes, yes.

That is, that's what I want from my child too.

I mean, it's just being able to.

Recognize beauty when you see it and appreciate it.

So I love that you've included so many different artists and introducing our kids to the different artwork that's out there.

And now I did notice this.

One of the major perks of your curriculum is that you have different subjects that interconnect, they correlate.

So can you kind of give us an overview of how?

Well, first, what are the different subjects that you're offering in your curriculum and how it all flows together from subject to subject?

Okay, well, our language arts incorporates the reading, so it's a full phonics program.

It doesn't need to be necessarily supplemented unless your kids need extra help.

But full reading phonics program and literature, grammar, writing and geography and art and spelling.

They're all in one combined course.

And they're interconnected.

And I mean, sometimes you will have.

One of the things that we tried to do with the curriculum is children like consistency, but they also like, they also like change.

They also like new things.

And so our lesson formats aren't exactly the same.

Every day when you open up your course, you don't know exactly.

I mean, they do the.

You do some of the same things every day on your checklist, but when you go to your lesson, your lesson is going to be different every day.

So sometimes we'll have a lesson that's on grammar, but it incorporates art into it.

And sometimes the lesson is on art, but it incorporates grammar into it.

And so we are able to just.

Every.

Everything in it was really, really thought out, all the exercises, everything.

So in one of the course levels that I just did, for example, they're studying Thailand and they study it in their course book.

But then when they're doing their exercises, their grammar exercises, the sentences that they're doing are interesting facts about Thailand.

So even when they're.

It's not just, you know, random sentences thrown together, but they're.

They're learning even more about Thailand when they are practicing their grammar principles.

So everything's just really sought out so that you can interconnect it all.

I love that.

And what are the ages or the grade levels or.

I mean, I know you don't go by grade levels, so can you explain how that works?

Yeah, so we just.

We do it by level, level, pre K, level K, primer level K. And then levels one through seven is what we have right now.

And we didn't want to do it by grade level because children tend to be in really different levels for their grammar and their writing and their reading.

And we don't want them to feel like they're below grade level or something like that.

So it's just levels and it just goes through level seven.

We're working on the high school right now, which will be released in the spring.

So it just goes up to level seven.

There's not a level eight.

So after level seven, they're ready for the.

The high school courses and the language arts and literature is designed for the individual child.

They're on their own individual level.

Sometimes you will have children that are on the same level and you can do it together.

But the other curriculum that we offer, the science and the history, are our family style.

And they have extensions for like older kids.

So you do the lesson together and then you can do the extensions for older children.

Nice.

So sort of the core of the course is your English grammar.

Right.

Or grammar.

Language arts.

Yeah.

Writing, handwriting.

And then you have also creative writing.

Yeah.

So we have a creative writing notebook that just offers.

We do have creative writing in our.

Especially in our higher levels where we add more writing.

Every level gets a little more intense.

With the writing.

But we also have a creative writing notebook because some children, creative writing is kind of really a painful process for them.

They're just not as creative minded.

But we feel like they need to be exposed to creative writing.

So it is in our courses.

But some children really want.

So we just have it.

We have a beautiful creative writing notebook for those children that want to do even more creative writing.

Nice.

And then also it integrates the history and the.

You have a history and then you.

Have geography and art integrated, right?

Well, yep, the geography and the art is integrated.

And it just works so well to integrate geography when you're doing those other subjects with art and literature, it just.

Geography and art go so well with those subjects.

It really does.

And I found that that is one of the things we really look forward to, just because we can't wait to open the book and see what beautiful artwork is there and then what we have to do with mapping.

So we, we love it.

I wanted to also ask you, you know, we have many listeners at the podcast who listening and who are from a variety of educational philosophies and viewpoints.

Some are classical, Charlotte Mason, Waldorf, Montessori and eclectic and so forth.

So with so many different types of homeschool families to address, who would you say that the good and the beautiful was developed for?

And what type of homeschooler did you have in mind when you were creating?

Yeah, that's a, that's a great question.

So I actually did a ton of study on all these different, different philosophies and found just so much that I liked about each of them.

And so when people say, what, what philosophy was it based on?

It wasn't based on a particular philosophy, but I kind of pulled some of what I felt was the best of the different, different philosophies together.

But one of the nice things is I feel like, and I know there's a lot of people with, with all those that you just mentioned that are using it, that are, are helping, are making it kind of lean to one direction or the other because it's not really extreme in one particular philosophy and has parts of lots of philosophies in it, the best parts, then people are pretty easily able to take that and make it lean in the way that they want to.

So I am, I am a Charlotte Mason fan of a lot of her stuff.

So there's a lot of Charlotte Mason philosophy in it.

There's classical philosophies I love in it, but you can, you can really take that and you Know, if you, if you don't love memorizing grammar flashcards with your kids, then you just, you know, you skip that part and you adjust it according, according to your, your own unique situation.

Right?

Yeah, that's one of the beauties of homeschooling, being able to make.

You've incorporated different viewpoints, and so you thought about it all and you researched it and you kind of added some elements of each that would blend together to make a really nice curriculum that would flow for any family.

So I like that.

And also, I'm wanting to go back a little bit and talk about budgets and price points and things that, that homeschool families are looking at when purchasing curriculum.

And you have made it extremely affordable.

So I think it's important for our listeners to know how, how affordable this curriculum really is.

And so just share about the different price points and let us know how.

Right.

Well, when I, when I first released the, the curriculum, I believe I released the kindergarten in the first grade level was what I first released.

And I'd sent an email, blast out about it and announced it, launched it.

And I immediately, like, realized that.

So I had priced out all of these different curriculums, especially phonics programs and things were very expensive.

And so I think I was selling it for 99 and 109 those courses.

And I just felt so horrible.

And I realized that I really needed to focus what I was doing on it being a mission, on really trying to help families out there.

And so I, I made it free.

And my husband was incredibly supportive that day because we had put a lot of time and money and resources into that, like, for years.

And so he, I mean, he just hardly even, you know, batted an eye.

He said, if that's what you feel, then do it.

And so, and so we did.

And, and then once people were downloading it and printing it, they're saying, well, this is great that this is free, but it's so expensive for us to get printed on our own or we don't have a printer.

So then I started, I'll say, okay, we'll get it.

We'll offer the printed curriculum for those of you that, you know, want that.

And then it just, it just grew.

It just grew from there.

But our, our courses, if you, if you take like, say our Level 3 course, which includes the writing, the reading, the spelling, the geography, the art, everything, and you were to take a separate curriculum, some of the most popular ones that are used out there and get what you need to cover those for your child is probably going to be somewhere between 350 to $900.

And our course for that, I mean, I think it's 69.

I have to check, but it's around there.

It's like 69.

But it's also full color course.

And most of other courses are not even full in color.

They're.

They're black and white.

They get this beautiful, you know, full color course.

Or if you have a great printer at home, levels one through five are completely free.

And so, yeah, that's pretty amazing to.

Be able to offer it for free and just feel that you're doing what you're called to do with your mission for this curriculum and to make it affordable.

And free is extremely affordable.

So when someone goes to your website to order, they can first just even take a look at it to see, you know, okay, this is what this is all about.

Let's download it and see how we can incorporate it.

But after a while, getting the print option is actually quite helpful because, you know, it's really helpful to have it on hand and to be able to.

To flip through the pages and experience the curriculum.

So I would encourage our listeners, if you're thinking of this, go ahead and order it because it's just nice to have it tangible.

Right.

And with all the beautiful artwork in it, you really want it printed, you know, vibrantly and with really good detail and resolution so your kids can enjoy it.

Right?

Absolutely.

So I love that you are.

I love their curriculum.

I just love it.

I have such a good experience with it.

My daughter loves it.

She looks forward to doing school every day now.

Like, she wakes up asking, when do we get started?

Because she's so excited about this shipment that came in mail for us a couple of weeks ago.

And we're just like really, really jazzed about it.

So can you.

Let's see, just kind of tell us about.

Maybe if you can talk about balance, balancing, homeschooling your children.

Did you say you have five children?

I do.

Okay, so how did you balance creating this curriculum and working on music and all that you do with just being a homeschool mom and just balancing life?

I mean, this is a huge, huge, huge project and undertaking.

So how.

Talk a little bit about that.

That is true.

It's been a little bit bigger of an undertaking than I even realized that it would be.

So it's been a journey, but I just really feel so blessed with my situation in life.

You know, when we're called to do something, we get the help that we need, but it doesn't mean that it's easy and it hasn't been easy, but I actually have two really wonderful friends that live in my neighborhood, and we homeschool our younger children together.

So they're with me for three mornings of the week, and they're with them for two mornings of the week.

So I get a little time to work.

And sometimes people I know.

One of my friends just said, I just feel so bad every time I hear what you're doing.

I feel like, oh, I need to be doing more.

And I'm like, no, listen, I have a cleaner who comes to my house.

I have two cleaners.

They do different things and they come every week, and we have a lot of help.

And in all honesty, I don't like that.

I want to clean my own house.

And I mean, it's a blessing.

It is a blessing.

But there is a joy that comes from taking care of your home and, like, doing those things.

And so to me, it's actually kind of a sacrifice because I. I want to be doing those things.

But I realize, like, you know, this is what.

This is what I'm supposed to be doing right now.

So I. I don't have anyone else that takes care of my children.

You know, I. I do that.

But I do have help with my home.

And I also have my secret, my big secret of how I do all this is my husband, because he is absolutely incredible.

He does work full time.

We don't make a living off of the business.

We're hoping at some point he can come home and help it.

He's a financial guy and would be wonderful, but we are not at that point right now because everything that's coming in is coming back out into new curriculum.

So he does work full time.

And when he gets home, he basically rolls up his sleeves and he says, all right, what do you want me.

What do you want me to do?

And he does dishes and he does laundry, and he tucks the kids in bed every night while I work.

And he takes them on hiking and different things while I work.

So having that support has been.

Has been really helpful, but I've had to really, really, really focus my time.

So I.

My poor children, sometimes they feel like, you know, if we're even sitting on the couch, not doing something for five minutes, Mom's gonna feel like, gotta use your time.

Gotta use your time wisely, guys.

So that.

That's kind of my thing.

And I, you know, I get up at 4:30 in the morning, and from the time my feet hit the ground, I'm going and Working and so awesome.

Okay, well, it sounds like you have.

You figured out what works for your family.

And that's one of the things I want to stress, too, is that it's different for every family.

And what's working for you is that,.

You know, you have to get up.

A little bit earlier, you need a little help around the house, and your husband chips in to help, and he's there and he's available to help with you.

And also the whole arrangement you have with your friend with helping out with each other's children, that's extremely helpful to give you that time you need.

So anyway, that's one thing I definitely wanted to bring to the surface that you know, because I know there are a lot of homeschool moms who are looking at starting their own businesses and publishing companies, and that's just been a big thing lately.

So I just wanted to share that, you know, it's important that we all realize it's different for everyone.

So I love hearing your story and I just want to thank you so much for creating this curriculum.

It's been a blessing for our family already.

It's really changed our lives.

So I just wanted our listeners to know how important that is to me and my family.

And I just want to thank you publicly for creating this and for putting all of this time and energy effort into creating the good and the beautiful.

So.

Well, thank you so much.

You're welcome.

So that was my interview with Jenny Phillips.

I hope that you enjoyed it.

And if you have any questions, be sure to reach out to her@jennyphillips.com Also, I do have one quick announcement to give you about a special that I'm offering From my website, mompreneursandheels.com if you haven't visited that already, I would love to have you traipse on over to that site and I will leave a link in the show notes.

So basically, for those of you who are homeschooling, mompreneurs, those of you who are interested in creating your own website or blog to get started with, developing your own mission and doing what you love to do in life, I want to help you to create a web presence that you'll be proud of.

So that is what I'm doing right now.

I'm offering a $99 web design which I happen to do somewhere around the holidays.

I did it this time last year year as well, and also did it around February.

So for those of you who would like to get in on this before the new year, I would love to help you with that.

If this is something you're looking forward to doing, I know that you know having someone do your logo plus your website and getting it all squared away can cost a lot of money and it can be time consuming depending on who you're working with.

So I would love to offer my services to you as just let you know that I'm on your team, I'm on your side and I want you to be successful in what your goals are in life as well.

So you can find out more about that.

Be sure to check the show notes or just go over to mompreneursandheels.com and there is a link that says work with me.

Right underneath that you'll find the web design special for Mompreneurs.

Okay so that's all in the menu.

It's all in the menu navigation.

Okay, so that's all for now.

Again, check out Jenny Phillips.

Let me know if you have any questions.

I'll, you know, I'm happy to answer any questions about the curriculum that I've been using, which is level four.

Again, you can take a look at my video and complete review that I have up on the website right now@christianhomeschoolmoms.com so if you have any questions questions about that, let me know and be sure to reach out to Jenny.

That's all for now and happy homeschooling.