God's Not Dead: In God We Trust w/Scott Baio & David A.R. White
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God's Not Dead: In God We Trust w/Scott Baio & David A.R. White

Join us on this episode of Becoming Outlaws as we sit down with actor Scott Baio and actor/producer David A.R. White, co-founder of Pure Flix, to discuss the release of the latest film in the God's Not Dead franchise, God's Not Dead: In God We Trust. We dive into the themes of the movie, explore the personal faith journeys of our guests, and share an exclusive look at the trailer for the new film. Tune in for an inspiring conversation about faith, filmmaking, and standing up for what you believe in.

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Join us on this episode of Becoming Outlaws as we sit down with actor Scott Baio and actor/producer David A.R. White, co-founder of Pure Flix, to discuss the release of the latest film in the God's Not Dead franchise, God's Not Dead: In God We Trust. We dive into the themes of the movie, explore the personal faith journeys of our guests, and share an exclusive look at the trailer for the new film. Tune in for an inspiring conversation about faith, filmmaking, and standing up for what you believe in.

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[00:00:00] and the more we outlaws, he said, go tell me, through the full walks of life since, and then,

[00:00:08] becoming our voice.

[00:00:12] If you are a fan of the Gods Not Dead movies, I've got awesome news for you.

[00:00:17] One is about to be released, the brand, how many do you think they're worth?

[00:00:21] One, you know, you see them, you go to them, two, think they're two?

[00:00:26] Not the Walking Dead, there's tons of those episodes, this is the Gods Not Dead movies.

[00:00:30] There's now five.

[00:00:32] The newest installment is Gods Not Dead in God We Trust, and if you've watched them,

[00:00:37] you'd recognize the main characters always a pastor, Reverend David Hill that's played by

[00:00:42] David A.R. White, and he's also been the lead and dozens probably more than that of other films,

[00:00:48] and you may not realize he's kind of a big shooter.

[00:00:50] He's a co-founder of the streaming service, Pure Flix, as well as Pinnacle, Peak Pictures.

[00:00:56] You have to see that slow.

[00:00:57] Who creates faith-based films?

[00:00:58] In the late Scots Not Dead, Scott Beo plays a dominant part.

[00:01:03] Who doesn't love when Scott Beo pops into a TV show or a movie?

[00:01:08] He plays this great person who you'd love to hate and it's, and

[00:01:12] Scott doesn't need much of an introduction, and he became a household name early on as

[00:01:16] Chachi and Happy Days, Charles and Charles is acting and directing credits, you know, for a long.

[00:01:22] Both Scott and David are here to chat about their new movies.

[00:01:26] Welcome, fellas.

[00:01:28] Well, thank you.

[00:01:31] That was quite an entrance.

[00:01:34] You know, he probably had more thorough and better but

[00:01:38] come on, people know who like the, got's not dead guy, as they know who Scott Beo is, so

[00:01:44] you know, cut to the chase.

[00:01:46] I agree with the chase.

[00:01:49] We're a big deal. We're a big deal here.

[00:01:52] You are, yeah, I called you a big shooter, that's right.

[00:01:54] You are a big shooter.

[00:01:56] You know, here's what I did.

[00:01:59] You know, of course I watched this latest one but I thought you know, I'm going to start over because

[00:02:02] Scott, God's not dead. That's been quite a while now, but over a decade or something.

[00:02:06] Oh, today, this years are 10 year anniversary.

[00:02:09] Wow. Yeah, I thought, you know, refresh myself. So I watched it.

[00:02:13] Then I went into this, you know, I went to a binge. I literally spent all night. I watched all five

[00:02:18] and a row. How long?

[00:02:19] I did. I'm thoroughly convinced that God's not dead now. So, so good work there.

[00:02:25] Was that last night you did this?

[00:02:27] No, I didn't do it last night. I did about a couple of weeks ago, actually.

[00:02:31] Yeah. Was it a Friday or Saturday or Tuesday or like what day was this?

[00:02:36] No, it was a week night. Yeah, I didn't mean to. You know, I just started, you know, it was like a 930

[00:02:41] and I ended up, well, you had like nine or 10 hours to that and that's when I finished.

[00:02:46] I'm slow. Wow.

[00:02:48] Did you do that? I didn't know. Like, Johnny loves Chachi.

[00:02:51] Yeah. So, Brad, shy.

[00:02:54] You know, I told my, I told my sister as going to talk to you and Scott and her fate.

[00:02:59] What a favorite show still is, Johnny loves Chachi.

[00:03:03] See Scott, still. That says a lot about your sister. Not good.

[00:03:12] Hey, speaking of those days.

[00:03:16] So David, you're being the son of a minister and a men and night minister.

[00:03:21] Did you grow up? Were you able to watch like Chachi or, you know, that kind of thing happy days?

[00:03:28] Yeah, it was a weird thing. I mean, I saw one moving at the end of the first 18 years in my life, right?

[00:03:32] So we couldn't go to movies. What was the movie?

[00:03:37] Well, the movie was Greece.

[00:03:41] Yeah. I was with a friend. I went to a friend's house and then their parents were like,

[00:03:47] we're going on the movies. The next thing you know, I'm in the movie theater. And I was like,

[00:03:49] oh my gosh, I love this, right? It was like 10 or something like that.

[00:03:53] And then, and then the next thing I know, I remember seeing a living new in John wearing black

[00:03:57] tights thinking, for sure, I am going to help.

[00:04:01] I never saw another movie for another 18 years. Yeah.

[00:04:05] But what we did have is we did have a TV and we did, um, and I did grow up watching happy days.

[00:04:13] And I didn't watch too much of, of Johnny loves Chachi. It was to, you know, that was

[00:04:19] not what it did for me. We did. I did. My sister did it was on.

[00:04:25] But I'm a big stuff. They're a fan. That's what he did. He was a guy. He was a guy.

[00:04:28] He was a guy. He was a guy after he got his dad in God. We trust him.

[00:04:31] And even a bigger Scott, they don't fan. Well, thank you Dave. Appreciate that.

[00:04:36] You know, Scott Chachi is like a cool character. But to me, I don't know you at all.

[00:04:42] But listening to you talk or just seeing you in the media, I know your way different than what

[00:04:47] were you like, funds these cousin or something. But with the accent, it really kind of sounds

[00:04:52] like you. I mean, you seem like a grown up Chachi kind of.

[00:04:58] Basically, I'm the at-well, my New York accent. I guess I've never really lost it.

[00:05:07] That was maybe 40 years ago when now. Yeah.

[00:05:11] This is me more than 40 years ago. Where are you at now? So we'll talk about this specifically,

[00:05:16] the film. But so I've, what, you know, let's talk about the shoot.

[00:05:22] So I, um, I've listened to both your podcast and they're both very good. Scott Bayos take on life.

[00:05:29] I love that. Thank you. It's so. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Did you listen to Scott Bayo on the White House

[00:05:37] pod dare to dream? On my mind? I did, I did listen to that one. The Scott Bayo have his own pod. You have

[00:05:43] your own pod, Cass Scott. Yes. I didn't notice. It's Scott Bayos take on life. It's like, can I tell you

[00:05:50] you could tell them, can it's fine? It's, it's, it's me and two bodies of mine. I would just talk

[00:05:56] and we just talk about. It's important things stuff in life going on going to the airport or

[00:06:03] either getting a restaurant and the things should you tell the plumber if his pants need to be pulled up.

[00:06:07] Important things are my, are my earlobes too big and how you body changes this weird stuff. Just

[00:06:13] stuff that people just talk about all the time and they're free to anyway. That's my pocket.

[00:06:17] I love that. Yeah, it's pretty funny. They're like 15 or 20 minutes later. I just want to

[00:06:21] spot a fight in download your podcast and instead it's like the Scott Bayo album. That's even better.

[00:06:28] That's even better than the podcast. It's out tonight. Let's go. I love this. Man, I have to do more.

[00:06:34] I can do more research on me. So a little more profound is Scott Bayos real take on life. I mean,

[00:06:47] the person now, I don't know if it's how you viewed Hollywood then or how you view it now

[00:06:51] or your perspective on life or how does faith play into that? What's your world view these days and

[00:06:58] has it morphed over time? What's important to you now? And then how did you get there?

[00:07:05] I think as you, I think as you age, you're personally a priorities change. I mean,

[00:07:09] I was a young, younger band. My priorities will work work work and that's really what drives you.

[00:07:19] And then as you get old and you have a child with drives you is your child. And my job is to

[00:07:29] provide my daughter with the tools she needs to do what she wants to do in life.

[00:07:32] And that's pretty much it. And my world view on, I was raised a Catholic and when I about a

[00:07:41] year or two ago I became Christian, it was baptized again. And so that's where

[00:07:50] I'm still the same guy but I just decided to go down a little bit of a different path and

[00:07:59] that's what my world view is very, very simplistic. Yeah. I think the proper world view is not

[00:08:07] complicated. It's got some straight forward path. Oh, I can complicated but I try to

[00:08:14] I can't. I think that's why we have women, right? Yeah, exactly.

[00:08:23] So David with his new movie. My first thought when I saw the title, right? Even before I

[00:08:29] watched it was wow what what timing? Is that purposeful or did just kind of happen to play out

[00:08:35] in a political season? So lay out just obviously at the point of this podcast, nobody has seen it yet.

[00:08:41] What's the snobs of the movie? And you know, and it fits any time not just a political season.

[00:08:48] Was that kind of purposeful? If not, it seems providential to me. Yeah, I have to actually say

[00:08:55] it was a bit providential. You know, the script started about three years ago and

[00:09:03] it kind of followed suit and when you've been jett all of them. So you know, it kind of

[00:09:08] come to me the people it makes sense, you know. But that that Reverend Dave would be after

[00:09:15] you know, it leads into that. But did we know that so much would be going on in the world of politics

[00:09:23] at the time? No, I don't think anybody could have imagined, you know, what this year has been

[00:09:30] in the political presidential race even so sort of speak. But also in so many different ways, you know,

[00:09:40] there's a stat about 40 million American Christians don't vote in presidential elections. We didn't

[00:09:44] know that at the time. But in the process of discovery, but you start to realize, wow, that's actually

[00:09:51] true and that's a problem. And you know, and the movie takes shape in different ways to answer

[00:10:00] some of these things that need to be talked about in our culture. And here we are, you know, it's like

[00:10:08] every single God's on dead movie is kind of done this in its own way for when that when it comes

[00:10:14] out, you know, it kind of resonates with where the country was at the time what's going out of

[00:10:19] culture and where the Christians fit into that. And here we are again, you know, it's election season.

[00:10:24] This is an election movie. Error, it's a backdrop of an election movie. And I'm run for politics,

[00:10:31] you know, for Congress and as Christians, you know, so often they don't want people faith,

[00:10:37] you don't want to be involved in politics because it's a dirty business. But if we don't do it,

[00:10:41] who's going to do it. Yeah. And Scott, when I was asking about your worldview, what do you say

[00:10:49] that you mentioned your daughter that even just having kids and David, you could speak on this too,

[00:10:56] but whether it's the political environment, environment or the media, just the social environment

[00:11:00] or the schools that you go to and listen to that. But that even if it's a Christian worldview,

[00:11:07] it begins to get pinpointed. I think what I'm trying to say, I think it become more serious,

[00:11:11] bolder and you stand up more for the sake of your kids. It's easier to be quiet because you're kind

[00:11:17] of quieting down on the couch as an older person. I'm speaking for myself. But when you have

[00:11:21] kids involved launching into that world, for me that that makes you kind of want to rise and do

[00:11:27] something that you can about it just to help pave a path for them. Is that ring true to you?

[00:11:37] Well, absolutely. You go through life. You're young, young man, you're pretty selfish.

[00:11:44] You take care of what you need to take care of. And then a child or children come along and

[00:11:50] you have a different role. You have a different purpose. So, you absolutely, it's your responsibility.

[00:11:59] It's my responsibility and my wife. Nobody else's, it's our responsibility to raise our child.

[00:12:09] So everything else goes on the back burner or everything else sort of becomes less of a priority.

[00:12:19] And that's I think most people that's what happens. Some people are not very good parents

[00:12:25] and that's the way life is. But you know, you, your priorities change completely. Yeah.

[00:12:32] And David for you, just being in the film industry, you've been in it so long. And I'm sure

[00:12:37] it's easy to say. You started to super young and it, it's your thoughts of your purpose has changed

[00:12:43] over time. But has it really kicked in? Have you went from like just trying to make it in Hollywood

[00:12:50] and have a career to, do you ever foresee where you're at now? It's a pretty major influence

[00:12:56] in a segment of ministry that was untouched before. Yeah. I mean, I don't think anybody can

[00:13:06] foresee where they're going or obviously where they're going to be and what culture and

[00:13:13] country kind of looks like as the last 10, 15 years has been crazy to see where we're going.

[00:13:22] But you know, one of our goals in early vision or not vision early dreams were to have a faith based

[00:13:32] genre that didn't really exist. You know, 150 million people go to church once a month. That was a

[00:13:38] stat. A couple years back. I'm not sure if that's still the same after COVID because I think we saw

[00:13:44] tremendous amount of hit, you know, on the faith that people going out in that way. But

[00:13:52] certainly there's a half-the-country identifies as being, you know, people of faith. And yet

[00:14:00] there's hardly any movies ever made or there weren't hardly any movies ever made for people in this

[00:14:08] arena. And so that was one of our goals is an early age when we, you know, years and years ago,

[00:14:15] 2005 is when we started a peerflicks to be one of the first faith based production and

[00:14:21] distribution studios that would release this content and make it on an ongoing basis. And so

[00:14:26] I've been amazed to see how the different studios have all kind of come in, you know, with different

[00:14:31] faith based labels and more and more Christians are putting these out. But we don't so,

[00:14:38] just love to see it continue to grow, you know, you just never know where it's going to go. And

[00:14:42] and the guys that had franchises been around, you know, this is our 10-year anniversary. And so it's

[00:14:47] you know, these movies seem to be relevant for such a time as this specifically whatever is going

[00:14:54] on in culture at the time. And this one too, guys not dead in God, we trust. Certainly,

[00:14:59] you know, it's a, it's a time the movie I think resonates with right where we're at right now.

[00:15:09] Yeah, I think what's great about the, I think one of the weaknesses, sometimes of part ones and

[00:15:15] twos and threes that they just go after was financially successful. So they're going to ride the franchise

[00:15:20] until it's not, the God's not dead movies have, it's not just stretching a continual story

[00:15:27] to the point of ridiculousness. It's perfect because it's just a progression of different topics

[00:15:33] going on in the culture that either a teenager or a college student run to or a home-schooling

[00:15:40] parents or the struggles of a pastor's life and the politics that play into that. So there's such

[00:15:47] a myriad, it just seems like they could keep going without stretching the topic, just because

[00:15:55] so many avenues or chapters that could go that are true to where people are at.

[00:16:01] Yeah, exactly and that's you know, we're not trying to be the fast and the furious,

[00:16:07] you know, although they have ten so we have quite a long ways to go. But but I wouldn't have

[00:16:15] ten years ago said that we'd even have, you know, this would be the fifth installment.

[00:16:19] And the irony hopefully is that, you know, more and more people say this is, again,

[00:16:26] everybody has their own opinions but a lot of people in the screenings have even said this is

[00:16:30] their favorite one out of all of them. So hopefully we're getting each movie is getting progressively

[00:16:36] better but the goal is not that we make a better movie, the goal is just that that it's

[00:16:43] entertaining, it inspires people to hope and to encourage them in their in their faith walk.

[00:16:52] But also that it lands right in the middle of where our country is and our culture is and where

[00:17:00] this God fit in that. And this one specifically is like Christians, you know, separation of

[00:17:05] church estate now you get Christians and politics. We're to our Christians even supposed to be involved

[00:17:10] or we supposed to be in our people of faith, supposed to be involved in politics or should we just step back?

[00:17:15] Yeah, there's a lot of relevant questions.

[00:17:19] Yeah, I'd say the answer is yes you just got to really be ready for it. Thanks again. Scott

[00:17:23] Bayels got thick skin, you know, Hollywood guy and Scott principles speaking of Scott,

[00:17:31] what's your career? What do you look at when you're doing, what do you look for in

[00:17:36] work? Do you kind of pick and choose what you want to do? Do you do things that just interest you or

[00:17:45] howl some kind of quite honestly I was canceled from about 2017 maybe

[00:17:57] on because of my, my campaign for President Trump and I knew I would be.

[00:18:06] I didn't care. So now I'm just sort of coming back and I was fortunate enough to hook

[00:18:16] up a David on a movie that we did a couple of years ago during COVID called Cording Mom and Dad.

[00:18:21] Great movie by the way, haven't seen it. It was fun. Yeah, I got to David came up to me and he says

[00:18:27] what do this movie? Would you do it or want to be play your daughter? And I went all of course she

[00:18:32] would. So we did that and then and then he asked me to do this and I honestly can I'm

[00:18:42] I don't have the luxury of picking and choosing. Yeah, but some stuff happens to choose me

[00:18:52] and I'm in a place right now where I'm lucky enough to work for David and it's and it's a good

[00:18:58] place to be. Yeah, well you know if really if any of us are truly accepted by everyone around us

[00:19:08] in the culture when we're probably not in the right place where we should be so I respect you

[00:19:13] in your grit and David for you and all the work you do. How can people, where do you want people

[00:19:19] to see this film? Hopefully in the theater, September 12th it opens all over the US but

[00:19:28] but it's important for people to know you know it's like if you don't go out that opening

[00:19:35] weekend for example, that sends the biggest message to Hollywood that says hey these films are

[00:19:43] viable and there's a hunger for them and ultimately it also sends a message to that theater is

[00:19:52] then let leave it in the theater longer but if people don't for example like that stat that says

[00:19:59] 40 million American Christians don't vote. If you don't go out and vote even for a movie

[00:20:05] for hey I want to see more of these movies then things go away and it's the same thing as in the

[00:20:12] movie too is if you don't get out and actually vote then more and more as we're seeing

[00:20:23] our countries not going to look like it. Yeah for sure well I'm sure it'll do great it's a good

[00:20:29] movie I saw Scott you did a great job in it absolutely despised you which means you did awesome

[00:20:35] all right I appreciate you both thanks a lot for coming on. Thanks so much we ever forget

[00:20:43] that we're one nation under God then we will be a nation going under now more than ever

[00:20:50] Christians must realize that we're being called to deliver hope to a country that's feeling hopeless

[00:20:55] faith begins where your comfort zone ends we need to step out into that faith

[00:21:01] with six weeks out from election day and a lot of us have lost hope in the future of our country

[00:21:07] we must maintain a wall of separation between church and state. Religion has no place in the

[00:21:12] public square once they bankrupt our country they will have complete

[00:21:22] we don't belong to our

[00:21:24] we need someone who can light a fire in the voters. The preacher he helped others education

[00:21:28] here I've been hired to manage the campaign for Congress. I'm not a politician. You don't take on this

[00:21:33] fight we can lose everything. They found someone to run a guest room. We worried about a preacher.

[00:21:40] My next guest is a candidate of a Congress you're going to get a lot of questions about your

[00:21:44] faith well maybe people are looking for more spiritual and moral leadership in Washington.

[00:21:48] You're making God an easy target for them pastor. God's not the target

[00:21:52] our country is. God's just standing in their way. I will not be made a fool of

[00:21:58] I won't stop until you're moral high ground it crumbles beneath your feet.

[00:22:04] You don't wait unless you play by their rules. You feel like I have two options

[00:22:08] I can either do the things my faith asked me not to or I lose this race

[00:22:13] It's like God keeps putting these impossible bones in front of they perhaps got put those mountains

[00:22:19] in front of you to show that they can be moved. We pray for David guys.

[00:22:27] This contest is about shaping the future of our nation. Keep your point in mind. It's like his

[00:22:33] God I can give it and I can take it away. How do you know it's God?

[00:22:41] Reverend Hill your beliefs are a textbook example of Christian nationalism. Whenever anyone

[00:22:45] a faith promotes a policy that you don't like you label them. A Christian nationalist

[00:22:53] we need to stand up send the message to Washington. Tell them you're not ready to give that

[00:22:59] power up. You have the power to change things. Not me, not him, you.

[00:23:08] And without God democracy will not and cannot long endure.

[00:23:18] We look for all walks of life since and then we're coming out of life.