Pt 2: Rob Gales + Value in Mentorship

[00:00:03] Welcome to the Ask About My Faith Podcast, where our hope is to inspire everyday faith

[00:00:08] conversations. I'm Jess. And I'm Abby. Today we're back with Rob Gales. Rob is the founder

[00:00:14] of the Gales Group, a successful retained business and executive advisory firm. You'll want

[00:00:19] to start with last week's episode where you're where you'll hear how he has achieved

[00:00:24] remarkable success in his career before Christ. Now everything changed after he found faith.

[00:00:29] Rob has a deep passion for mentoring men and walking alongside them embodying the principle

[00:00:34] of iron-charpening iron. His personal journey provides him with unique discernment in guiding

[00:00:39] others, allowing vulnerability to create genuine connections, opening hearts and paving the

[00:00:44] way for spiritual growth. If you don't have a mentor yet this conversation will inspire

[00:00:49] you to seek one. Let's jump in.

[00:00:54] Rob, do you have any specific stories that are coming to mind just right off the bat as far

[00:00:59] as ways that you've been able to speak into the life of another guy?

[00:01:07] Yeah. So, you know, going back to when I got diagnosed with cancer and I just, it whacked

[00:01:14] me out quite a bit. It's like, I didn't want any other man to feel that right. I can't

[00:01:21] even describe the feeling until you hear those words yourself. It's hard to describe

[00:01:26] to anybody that hasn't heard those words. And so as I came out, I really came to understand

[00:01:36] that I really was kind of a cowboy in my life. Maybe I still am a little bit, I don't know,

[00:01:41] but it's probably very prideful that I didn't allow a lot of men to speak into my life.

[00:01:48] Right? And so, you know, we're guys or knuckleheads to some degree. It's like,

[00:01:54] if I want to have a great relationship with the Lord, I need to find a man in an iron

[00:02:00] sharpener's iron way that can mentor me and challenge me and not just go, hey, Rob, that's

[00:02:04] great, but challenge me. And why'd you do that? Why'd you say that? Just make me a better

[00:02:08] father of Jesus. Same thing as a husband, as couples from a mentor standpoint. And

[00:02:14] everything from health to finance all that. And I do believe I look back at my life. Had I

[00:02:19] had a mentor or mentors in my life to speak into my life, I absolutely wouldn't have gotten off the

[00:02:25] rails. So it's kind of taken on as a personal mission. I believe God's called me to talk to

[00:02:30] guys about not getting off the rails and to encourage them to be in iron sharpener's ironing

[00:02:35] relationship in every era of their life. Because we have an enemy that's looking for

[00:02:39] those open doors to take us down and literally any of our life. And so, you know, going

[00:02:46] through all the cancer and coming out knowing that I'm called to just speak into men's

[00:02:52] lives, it's like, okay, Lord, I still don't think I'm equipped to do this. I sure I sure

[00:02:59] have the story and I don't have the fear of put my crap on the table anymore. Can I

[00:03:05] say crap? And but if I don't have the what's next step down, so I get certified as a

[00:03:14] biblical executive coach, not to not to have a coaching business, but to be able to know

[00:03:18] how to talk to men, how to speak to men, right? And and so I as I mentioned earlier, I've

[00:03:24] met with hundreds of men in everything from, you know, business and strategies and

[00:03:30] visionary and connecting down to their personal lives. And I don't proclaim to

[00:03:34] have the answers on any of this stuff. But it is amazing when a guy is released

[00:03:39] and free to speak, how the Holy Spirit works in that conversation. I'm not, you

[00:03:45] know, I'm not a professional anything other than, you know, kind of what God has done

[00:03:50] in my life. And so I do that pretty much all day long every day. It's God just keeps

[00:03:56] putting people in front of me and I have amazing conversations every single day.

[00:04:01] Yeah. Yeah. Well, the beautiful thing too is that we don't need to know all the

[00:04:06] questions, but we know the one that has all the answers and pointing them back to God

[00:04:12] is the best thing. Yeah. Yeah. And sometimes it's complicated. Yeah.

[00:04:18] Yeah, definitely. You shared a story with us before we started recording about a time

[00:04:24] where you got to really be vulnerable with like a big group of men. Can you can

[00:04:29] you share that story with our listeners and how that kind of launched into a new

[00:04:33] era for you? Yeah. Yeah. And that goes back to when I when I came out of cancer,

[00:04:39] cancer free, kind of wrecked as a man going, God, what do I do with this? And I

[00:04:44] think I mentioned earlier, I've kind of got two halves of my lives. I got the

[00:04:47] first half of my life where I was, you know, let's just say in the world

[00:04:52] a lot. And then I got the second half where, you know, I'm seeking first

[00:04:57] is what I attempt to do. But in that crossing over, there's a lot of

[00:05:03] shame. And there's a lot of sort of anxiety about, you know, the first half of my

[00:05:11] life, right? And I've stepped in pretty much any hole a guy can step in, right?

[00:05:18] And and, you know, don't really want to talk about it to anybody and kind of

[00:05:22] keep it in. But I know it's got to come out in some form. And so I was

[00:05:26] asked to speak to a group of it was like 30 Christian men each bringing a

[00:05:33] unchurched nonbeliever, non Christian guy to this luncheon. So there's 60 guys

[00:05:39] there. And the guy that the young man that that that set it up and ran it

[00:05:45] was in charge of the launch and the keynote, he asked me if I would

[00:05:48] keynote it. I go, Sure, I love doing that. I mean, I don't have any

[00:05:52] problems being without notes. And I said, So you really want me to talk

[00:05:56] about what God did through my cancer and everything? He goes, No, no, all of

[00:06:01] it. I go, What do you mean all of it? He goes, Rob, I know you well enough. I

[00:06:04] know your entire story. I want you to share all of it. And so my heart's

[00:06:09] pounding because I haven't gone there really confessed it, spoken it out,

[00:06:15] thought about it. It's kind of like in the background. But I agreed to

[00:06:19] it and then didn't think about much of it. And so on the way to this

[00:06:25] luncheon, it was on a hotel ballroom kind of a thing. My heart's

[00:06:30] like pounding because it's like, Dang, I should have at least

[00:06:34] written down some bullet points. I have no idea. I don't know. I

[00:06:39] don't know what I'm going to share. How ashamed I'm going to feel.

[00:06:43] I can't even describe the emotion. So I get there. And there's

[00:06:47] like, you know, 60 guys in a room, right? And to be honest, it's like

[00:06:52] there's it's like why am I at this religious luncheon? You can kind of

[00:06:55] feel the vibe in the room. It's like, All right, I'm here because

[00:06:57] the buddy had me come. So my friend introduces me in a really

[00:07:04] uplifting way. And I still have zero idea what's gonna come out of

[00:07:08] my mouth. And so I can, I mean, as I'm sitting here right now, I

[00:07:13] can remember getting up to the podium and looking at all these guys

[00:07:15] that are staring at me. And I said, Look, I'm gonna be right

[00:07:18] in front of you. I don't want to be here. And they're looking at

[00:07:22] me like what? I said, look, I'm being asked to share my story,

[00:07:26] my testimony, I'm going to take you into deep areas of my life

[00:07:29] that I've never spoken public before. And I don't know what

[00:07:32] that looks like. But now I'm wondering why am I even here? I

[00:07:37] literally just want to turn around and run. You guys

[00:07:39] okay with that? Right? And so I said, Okay, now we just

[00:07:43] started getting some I started getting some words. I knew they

[00:07:47] would come. But I never been in such a fearful place to trust

[00:07:51] that words are gonna come. I said, Okay, here's here's, here's

[00:07:55] the deal. You guys need to know who I am. I am Rob Gales. Get

[00:07:59] behind me. I'm going to lead you out. We have no fear. Trust

[00:08:02] me. I got this right? And that's been my life. That I

[00:08:07] would say the word on that is prideful. And because I had a

[00:08:11] lot of pride, I was always sure and I was always the man, the

[00:08:14] myth and the legend. All right? Therein lies the fact that

[00:08:17] nobody would take a risk to talk to me because I was sort of

[00:08:20] unapproachable because Rob's got it all figured out. Right?

[00:08:24] But the problem with that is I made a lot of poor choices in

[00:08:28] my life. And had somebody loved me enough to take a risk to

[00:08:35] sit on and go, Hey, Rob, can I talk to you about some

[00:08:37] choices that you're making in your life? Right? I would

[00:08:40] have respected and wish somebody would have done that. But

[00:08:43] know who's going to do that? Because you guys know who I am. I

[00:08:46] am Rob Gales, right? And and I would have prevented a lot of

[00:08:51] carnage in my life, I think. But it's also possible that at

[00:08:56] that point, what I got, hey, you know what, I appreciate this

[00:08:58] but but I got this, right? But yeah, I'm sure that guy

[00:09:03] that I would have said I got this too, when rolling around

[00:09:06] in my head. And so at some point, you know, when I when I got

[00:09:11] myself and one of my many predicaments, I would have cried

[00:09:14] out for help. Okay? So here's why I'm here guys, right? I don't

[00:09:20] know you guys. I love you guys. You guys are doing things you

[00:09:25] shouldn't be doing. You guys are you've done things, you're

[00:09:28] carrying things, you're thinking about stuff. And it's

[00:09:32] nothing that I haven't done. Okay. And so what I'm going

[00:09:35] to do right now is I'm going to take a risk. And I'm gonna love

[00:09:39] you guys, I'm going to speak into your lives. And so I said,

[00:09:45] strap in, I'm going to share my story. So then for the next

[00:09:48] time or 20, 30 minutes, it's like it all came out from 60

[00:09:52] guys. And it's like, what? Right. And and so at the end of

[00:09:58] that, I shared the gospel. I want some point I just I talked

[00:10:07] about who who this God is that just showed up in my depravity

[00:10:12] and redeem me. It's not like I'm some cool Christian guy at

[00:10:14] that point. I figured out God like showed up or me or I woke

[00:10:18] up to that he was already there. I don't know but it

[00:10:21] happened. Right? And it wasn't me that did it. And so I

[00:10:25] shared the gospel. I let him on a prayer three guys made

[00:10:27] first time decisions as Jesus Christ, the Savior and Lord of

[00:10:30] their life. 10 guys rededicated life to Christ. 10 guys said,

[00:10:34] tell me more about this Jesus. I got whacked. And so that sent

[00:10:38] me on my journey about just speaking to men about you know,

[00:10:42] just acknowledge your depravity and then we get

[00:10:44] acknowledged we have a savior. All right. Acknowledge that

[00:10:47] there is a way out. And oh by the way, let's get some

[00:10:49] guys in your life and all these areas of your life to

[00:10:51] walk with you mentor you and iron sharpens iron. And

[00:10:54] that's kind of my message with man.

[00:11:00] There's so many ways we could go without so many points that we

[00:11:02] could talk about but the one that's one of them that's

[00:11:05] jumping out at me right is the idea that you didn't even want

[00:11:07] to go to that event. There was a big part of you that was

[00:11:11] like, I mean, how about I just shared this part of my

[00:11:14] story? Yeah, or what if I just don't even go any in the

[00:11:18] first place and you know, there are so many times that

[00:11:20] we find ourselves in that mindset in life, whatever

[00:11:24] this circumstance may be where it's like, don't really want

[00:11:27] to go right now God. And he's like, yeah, no, I'm calling you

[00:11:30] to go to this for a reason if we are willing to go and

[00:11:35] be open minded and say, God, use me. I mean, just if you

[00:11:41] want to use me use me because I got I got nothing else

[00:11:45] really going for me other than you know, I'm cool. I'm

[00:11:48] Rob get behind me, right?

[00:11:50] I hadn't thought you just you articulated that really well,

[00:11:53] hadn't thought about it the way you just said it. But you

[00:11:56] know, number one was I was terrified to go there, right? And

[00:11:59] number two, it that the easy way out was to sort of soften

[00:12:04] the conversation and you know, go back to the old Rob Gales

[00:12:07] and act like a Christian dude and you know, like I got it

[00:12:10] all figured out. But he wouldn't let me. I mean, he

[00:12:13] wouldn't let me so that's a good call on your part.

[00:12:17] Yeah. And the vulnerability of a story really penetrates

[00:12:21] hearts. I mean, it's the shiny version of your story. When I

[00:12:27] don't imagine it would have hit as deep as the honest

[00:12:32] version.

[00:12:33] Yeah. Yeah, no, I agree with that. And that is my so you

[00:12:38] know, the word in Wisconsin here, I'm I'm I still work

[00:12:42] I still am an advisor to some tech companies and I do some

[00:12:44] board work and my real heart is to pour into men, right? It is

[00:12:49] and yeah, I think here, whether it's here in Wisconsin or

[00:12:53] literally any place, life's hard. Life is getting harder. And

[00:12:57] you know, who knows what's gonna happen. But I think

[00:13:00] whether you're just an in the world guy is secular guy. By

[00:13:03] the way, I don't need to just talk to Christian guys, I'll

[00:13:05] talk to anybody, right? And I stress, God will give me the

[00:13:09] words and how to speak to them. But I put the same

[00:13:11] stuff on the table. But I also don't think that guys have a

[00:13:15] grid for what's in front of us. Life is changing rapidly. We

[00:13:19] have an enemy that is back against the wall and things are

[00:13:23] going to get ugly. And I just want to make myself available

[00:13:26] to men, right? Just as some kind of a confidant, right?

[00:13:31] Because I just want guys to be awake to be vulnerable and be

[00:13:35] ready to receive. And then we all get through this. Yeah.

[00:13:41] Right? Yeah,

[00:13:44] has there been a time that you've been able to speak life into

[00:13:46] someone in one of those one on one type situations, they

[00:13:50] opened up man things are hard that you were able to encourage

[00:13:55] them and remind them that there's a there's a bigger

[00:13:58] purpose for their life maybe or for I mean, a lot of them

[00:14:02] are business owners for maybe their role in their business.

[00:14:07] Yeah, I would say without saying one particular is my my

[00:14:13] goal in literally every conversation with with with a

[00:14:16] man, especially guys that I meet for the first time. I'm

[00:14:20] amazed in a 60 minute conversation what comes out

[00:14:24] and and I don't ever I mean, I seldom go into a meeting or

[00:14:28] a discussion prepared. I'm not a notes or CRM or Excel

[00:14:32] spreadsheet kind of guy sort of fly by the seat of my

[00:14:34] pants, but I call it the Holy Spirit, right? But but I'm

[00:14:39] always amazed in how the Holy Spirit to kind of directs a

[00:14:41] conversation. And it's kind of like a heat seeking missile

[00:14:45] to a point of pain really quick, whether it's a business

[00:14:48] issue, financial issue, a marital issue, a personal issue

[00:14:52] or a personal struggle. It would go right to it. And I

[00:14:57] can usually match the story story for story. And then

[00:15:01] God works. And so I mean, I guess I wish it would have

[00:15:05] journal out of these things because it's so encouraging

[00:15:07] to see just got work in that conversation, right? Just with

[00:15:13] two men being vulnerable with each other, right to give

[00:15:16] them to receive and and I I guess I got a lot of those

[00:15:21] stories. I can't think of one, but it literally happens

[00:15:23] every day.

[00:15:26] Do you feel like you go into that conversation and you

[00:15:30] know, as they're sharing about life about business about

[00:15:32] whatever they're going through, Holy Spirit just kind of

[00:15:35] highlights one of those areas or how do you, you know, you

[00:15:39] said it's kind of like that. Just go straight to that

[00:15:40] point. How do you how do you do that? How does that

[00:15:43] happen?

[00:15:46] I honestly don't know. I mean, I don't have a sort of

[00:15:49] a canned. Let me maybe I'll start here and have this

[00:15:52] discussion literally just get into discussions. It happens

[00:15:56] to be on on, you know, zooms, a middle happened to

[00:15:58] me on, you know, business zooms where there's groups

[00:16:02] and I'm the guy that takes it down a bunny trail right

[00:16:04] out of their shoot. You know, I'm digging into

[00:16:05] somebody's family or digging into their struggles or

[00:16:07] whatever it is. And it's like, Rob, get back, come

[00:16:09] back Rob. Right. And it just just go there. And

[00:16:14] I think my discernment because of my own, you

[00:16:19] know, jagged journey, my discernment is higher than

[00:16:22] it's ever been. I can I can discern a guy's point

[00:16:25] of pain pretty quick. And if I don't have to dig it

[00:16:29] out by, you know, fairly soon in a conversation,

[00:16:33] they've they've put it on the table. It's been a

[00:16:35] fascinating growth for me. And so, you know, I

[00:16:39] struggle with shame and guilt and a lot of parts

[00:16:41] of my life and and and being able to take that.

[00:16:45] You know, I look at it like kind of like a

[00:16:47] pendulum is as far as I was stretched into the

[00:16:50] world into ugly places, right? When I'm

[00:16:54] released and I'm healed of that, you know, the

[00:16:55] pendulum doesn't come back to the middle. It's like

[00:16:57] a rocket ship the other way. And so it's that

[00:17:00] Romans age 28 thing where God yet does use all of

[00:17:04] it, all of it doesn't say some of it uses all

[00:17:07] of it for those who love him, right? And I've

[00:17:09] got a lot of all of it and I do love him and

[00:17:12] I do know that when I'm vulnerable, I put

[00:17:14] that stuff on the table. He takes it to levels.

[00:17:17] It's like, yeah, didn't see this one coming.

[00:17:21] Right. What a great reminder. Yeah, it's good.

[00:17:25] Yeah, I imagine right. I imagine those conversations

[00:17:29] could be something like he's struggling in this

[00:17:32] business situation and you're like, oh my gosh,

[00:17:35] I've been there and now the Lord has like redeemed

[00:17:38] it in this beautiful way. Is that kind of how

[00:17:40] you tie God in to show like the redemptive

[00:17:43] part of it or healing?

[00:17:46] Yeah. Yeah. So, so going back to when I

[00:17:50] mentioned that I got certified as a as a

[00:17:52] negative coach, I did that because one of the

[00:17:55] things that I've had to overcome is is trying

[00:17:59] to be the smartest guy in the room and trying to

[00:18:00] have all the answers to everything and

[00:18:02] it's the answer man, even as a believer

[00:18:04] and my journey, right? I think to the degree

[00:18:08] that I tell guys what to do or even, you

[00:18:11] know, share my journey and that's the only

[00:18:13] part of it without asking questions.

[00:18:17] That's what I was missing. And so how I get

[00:18:20] there is I just I've learned how to ask

[00:18:21] questions, right? And by them asking,

[00:18:25] answering the questions that I ask, it helps

[00:18:27] me formulate a response and I don't very

[00:18:31] often do the say at the Lord, you should

[00:18:34] do this or you should do that. I can usually

[00:18:37] speak to when I was in their position, how

[00:18:39] God did it for me and that causes them

[00:18:42] to ask me questions and then I have

[00:18:45] licenses speaking to their lives. I try

[00:18:46] not to like go look, I'm back to that

[00:18:51] private private place where I got all

[00:18:52] the answers, right? Even if I think I do

[00:18:55] right, I really want permission to speak

[00:18:58] to that issue. That's a good distinction.

[00:19:04] Yeah, thank you. Yeah, and it's

[00:19:06] not easy sometimes. It's like, you

[00:19:09] know, I want to control this

[00:19:10] conversation like right now, you know,

[00:19:13] Oh, yeah. Yeah, for sure. Right.

[00:19:17] Submitting that some kind of giving over

[00:19:19] the reins to say, okay, yeah, all right,

[00:19:21] God, this is this is your domain. Not mine.

[00:19:26] Exactly. That's so interesting. I was

[00:19:28] listening to someone speak the other

[00:19:30] day and they challenged they challenged

[00:19:33] us to not have the answers. Even if

[00:19:36] you have it, it's like what if you

[00:19:38] don't give them the answer, but you

[00:19:40] point them to God or point them to the

[00:19:43] Bible and let them discover it themselves,

[00:19:45] which we all know is the best way to

[00:19:47] learn something. Yeah, but yes,

[00:19:49] sparking the curiosity.

[00:19:51] That's that's a really good point because

[00:19:54] again on a journey and whoever we're

[00:19:56] speaking to here, people are on different

[00:19:58] places in their journey, right? And

[00:20:01] there's always this. Yeah, I'm not

[00:20:03] good enough. I can't pray like you

[00:20:05] pray out loud. I'm not good enough to

[00:20:07] share the gospel. I don't know how

[00:20:08] to share the articulate like you do.

[00:20:11] I don't know, you know, there's all these

[00:20:12] things, right? And so when we put

[00:20:14] ourselves in a situation to talk to

[00:20:16] somebody or I do, I really learned to

[00:20:19] tell her, it's like, look, I actually

[00:20:20] don't know the answer to that. I don't

[00:20:22] know. And like you said, Jess, it's

[00:20:24] like either either, you know, you know,

[00:20:26] seek God and that yourself or you

[00:20:28] know what? Why don't you and I do

[00:20:30] that together? Right? I mean, so,

[00:20:33] you know, I'm the in this role

[00:20:34] maybe kind of the teacher and that

[00:20:36] guys may be the student, but you

[00:20:37] know, now we're doing it together or

[00:20:39] iron sharpens ironing. Let's get in

[00:20:41] the word together. Let's figure this

[00:20:42] out together. Let's find a man that

[00:20:44] would know this and let's get on a call

[00:20:45] with him and let's walk this out

[00:20:47] together. But I don't know is actually

[00:20:50] a really good really powerful tool.

[00:20:55] If you will in a conversation.

[00:20:58] Really good. I'm glad you mentioned

[00:21:00] honest to. Yeah, good. Well,

[00:21:03] Rob, we probably have time for one

[00:21:05] more story. Are there any other

[00:21:08] moments, interactions times you'd

[00:21:10] offered to pray for someone?

[00:21:12] Ask them what was going on in their

[00:21:14] life that that God brought up the

[00:21:16] opportunity for you to have that

[00:21:18] faith conversation.

[00:21:20] Yeah, I got to think about that

[00:21:22] because it does happen so so often.

[00:21:24] I, you know, I guess I'll answer

[00:21:26] around about way and roundabout

[00:21:29] way is there's a lot of reasons

[00:21:31] to feel dark and depressed these

[00:21:35] days. There's there's so much going

[00:21:37] on, right? Financial issues.

[00:21:39] There's there's this spiritual

[00:21:41] oppression that's over everybody,

[00:21:42] whether you're a believer or not,

[00:21:44] it's just there and things are

[00:21:45] getting harder and harder and harder.

[00:21:49] And I've really sort of stopped

[00:21:52] looking for the wins.

[00:21:53] If you will, you know, well,

[00:21:55] that was a great conversation and

[00:21:56] that person met the Lord and all

[00:21:57] that stuff because for me, I

[00:22:00] guess I thought about this way.

[00:22:01] So I guess this is always spirit

[00:22:03] speaking because that becomes

[00:22:04] more performance.

[00:22:05] It's like, what's Rob going to do

[00:22:07] this time or how's Rob going to

[00:22:09] facilitate God to, you know,

[00:22:11] then he go back to the pride thing,

[00:22:12] right? And so it's become less

[00:22:15] of a performance thing.

[00:22:16] In other words, what am I going

[00:22:17] to do and how am I going to speak

[00:22:18] into somebody versus who I am?

[00:22:21] And it just comes out naturally

[00:22:23] and conversations just flow.

[00:22:25] And so I mean, there's there's

[00:22:28] little mini miracles going on in

[00:22:29] my life every single day and

[00:22:30] there's big miracles going on.

[00:22:31] And I just think, you know,

[00:22:32] anytime I get to, you know,

[00:22:34] the word says wherever two or

[00:22:35] more are gathered, I'm in your midst

[00:22:37] and to know that Father God,

[00:22:39] the Creator of the universe is

[00:22:40] in that conversation and he hears

[00:22:42] the desires of the heart that's

[00:22:44] going on. Man,

[00:22:45] that just gave me crazy joy

[00:22:46] that I know that no matter

[00:22:47] what goes on, it's all good

[00:22:49] and God's work.

[00:22:50] And I think probably some of the

[00:22:52] greatest joys are the things

[00:22:54] that maybe we don't ever get

[00:22:55] to see till we go home,

[00:22:56] right? Maybe it's somebody we

[00:22:58] all met eight years ago,

[00:23:00] shared something, changed their

[00:23:01] life. And we won't know that

[00:23:03] until we till we go home.

[00:23:05] What's the old story about,

[00:23:07] you know, you know, the Billy

[00:23:09] Graham journey and the impact

[00:23:10] Billy Graham had?

[00:23:11] Who's the guy that shared the

[00:23:13] gospel with Billy Graham?

[00:23:14] Right? I mean, all those things.

[00:23:17] And so I just really try to

[00:23:19] operate as who I am not

[00:23:21] of what I do. I don't know

[00:23:22] if that answers your question,

[00:23:23] but that's kind of how I see

[00:23:25] it.

[00:23:26] No, I really like that.

[00:23:27] What a good reminder that,

[00:23:29] you know, because we talk

[00:23:29] about that of, you know,

[00:23:31] planning, planning seeds and

[00:23:32] you might not really see

[00:23:34] what comes of it.

[00:23:35] And it just,

[00:23:38] that's just I like the way

[00:23:39] you put that of it's about

[00:23:41] who I am and it's choosing

[00:23:44] to just allow God to use

[00:23:46] us however he sees fit.

[00:23:48] Not that there's like, you

[00:23:51] know, an end goal.

[00:23:52] It's just the goal is

[00:23:53] simply that we would be

[00:23:55] the clay in the potter's

[00:23:57] hands, right?

[00:23:58] And that's exactly what you're

[00:24:00] kind of describing there.

[00:24:01] Well, I've had to get comfortable

[00:24:03] what you just said.

[00:24:03] You ladies carve out some

[00:24:05] really good stuff,

[00:24:06] things I haven't thought about.

[00:24:07] So way to go.

[00:24:09] I, you know,

[00:24:11] it's I'm kind of a getter

[00:24:12] done kind of a guy, right?

[00:24:14] And so the other part

[00:24:16] of my journey is, you know,

[00:24:17] when I pray for somebody

[00:24:18] or when I speak to someone,

[00:24:19] it's like I expect

[00:24:20] things to happen.

[00:24:21] It's like, you know,

[00:24:23] God, how come you didn't show up?

[00:24:24] And it's like he's not

[00:24:26] a vending machine.

[00:24:27] God is not something we just

[00:24:28] we, you know, get the rough genie

[00:24:30] and something happens.

[00:24:31] And so I've had to really,

[00:24:33] really understand

[00:24:34] that it has nothing to do

[00:24:36] with me, right?

[00:24:37] And if the only thing is

[00:24:39] that I plant a seed

[00:24:40] or God plants the seed

[00:24:41] through me

[00:24:42] and it doesn't get watered

[00:24:43] for another 10 years, right?

[00:24:45] I just need to understand

[00:24:47] and trust

[00:24:48] that God has worked

[00:24:49] in that conversation.

[00:24:50] So I trust every

[00:24:51] I trust this conversation.

[00:24:53] Yeah, God's working

[00:24:54] through somebody, right?

[00:24:56] I just believe that

[00:24:57] and I believe that you ladies

[00:24:59] what you're doing,

[00:25:01] you have a kingdom impact

[00:25:03] and I just want to add

[00:25:04] if I you ladies right now

[00:25:05] for what you're doing

[00:25:06] just out of obedience

[00:25:07] the questions you ask people

[00:25:08] that you bring in

[00:25:10] and you don't know

[00:25:11] how these are going to turn out

[00:25:13] but the seeds

[00:25:14] that you're planting

[00:25:15] is sometimes you see

[00:25:16] changing people immediately

[00:25:17] and sometimes you won't see it

[00:25:18] till you go home

[00:25:19] but you do know

[00:25:20] you just trust Father God

[00:25:21] that what you're doing

[00:25:23] you're doing out of obedience

[00:25:24] your planting seeds

[00:25:25] and it works.

[00:25:26] So I think what you're doing

[00:25:28] is amazing.

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