Pt 2: Jeff May + Advantage Heath Center

[00:00:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to the Ask About My Faith Podcast, where our hope is to inspire everyday faith

[00:00:08] [SPEAKER_01]: conversations. I'm Jess. And I'm Abby. Today we're back with Dr. Jeff May. If you missed

[00:00:14] [SPEAKER_01]: part one, be sure to start there. Jeff leaves us with a powerful reminder that inaction

[00:00:20] [SPEAKER_01]: is not an option. Jeff is a passionate chiropractor at Advantage Health Center in Jordan, Minnesota,

[00:00:27] [SPEAKER_01]: dedicated to helping people live healthier, happier and more productive lives. Today he'll share how

[00:00:38] [SPEAKER_01]: recognizing God's intelligent design in the human body sparks faith conversations at his clinic

[00:00:44] [SPEAKER_01]: all the time. From playing Christian music to walking with clients through tough times,

[00:00:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Jeff's love, compassion and urgency to help others know the Lord really shines through. Let's jump in.

[00:01:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, Jeff Advantage Health Center is a big part of what you do. It's a big part of your life

[00:01:08] [SPEAKER_00]: these days. Tell us a little bit about how faith impacts what you do. Can we start there?

[00:01:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, absolutely. I'll tell you what. School takes a while, right? No matter what practice or

[00:01:25] [SPEAKER_02]: educated career people go down. So mine just happened to be in... I really, really want to

[00:01:30] [SPEAKER_02]: know what makes a body healthy and what makes it unhealthy and how I can help people become

[00:01:33] [SPEAKER_02]: healthier, happier, more productive through a natural side. So I chose a natural side because

[00:01:39] [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't want to tell parents that their kids were dying of cancer. I didn't want that.

[00:01:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. I'm not built for crisis care. I'm so grateful we have crisis care in the United States.

[00:01:51] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm built for after the fires are put out or how do we prevent fires or how do we avoid those fires

[00:01:56] [SPEAKER_02]: when inevitably, like I said, even last week on part one of this, we talked about my father in

[00:02:04] [SPEAKER_02]: law, massive heart attack in the street. I could be the best adjuster in the world. He's not

[00:02:09] [SPEAKER_02]: coming back. So I chose a natural healthcare route. So we were blessed enough to build a

[00:02:14] [SPEAKER_02]: beautiful health center a few years ago. I've been in practice for 17, almost 18 years and inevitably

[00:02:21] [SPEAKER_02]: going through and learning how the body works. Like there's a... There's the beautiful thing.

[00:02:26] [SPEAKER_02]: There's an educated design to the body. You got to be absolutely blind if you can't see God

[00:02:31] [SPEAKER_02]: created this thing. Let alone then my wife and I had four kids. I wanted zero kids,

[00:02:37] [SPEAKER_02]: but she couldn't keep her hands off me. So now we have four. Sorry.

[00:02:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, what's her name on your phone again? Yeah, Smoke and Hot Wife. Yeah, for sure.

[00:02:46] [SPEAKER_02]: And she's made beautiful children. So praise the Lord. No, I love kids.

[00:02:51] [SPEAKER_02]: So anyway, long story short, like being a parent and then being a practitioner

[00:02:54] [SPEAKER_02]: in the office, you see intelligence. Like you can see an intelligent design.

[00:03:00] [SPEAKER_02]: How do I go in and assess that there's an interference between communication between

[00:03:04] [SPEAKER_02]: a brain and body and then be able to assess that, remove it with a specific chiropractic adjustment

[00:03:09] [SPEAKER_02]: and then watch the body heal? The only reason chiropractic works is because there's an

[00:03:12] [SPEAKER_02]: intelligence that your body's made smart and it's made to be healthy. You are fearfully

[00:03:17] [SPEAKER_02]: and wonderfully made. And so if that intelligent isn't in there, and I'm assuming someone

[00:03:25] [SPEAKER_02]: more intelligent had to put that intelligence in there, right? Because we are like our maker.

[00:03:30] [SPEAKER_02]: It didn't fall out of the sky because of meteor hit and at this temperature and all those things.

[00:03:35] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, there might have been a big bang, but that could have been just God snapping his fingers.

[00:03:39] [SPEAKER_02]: So in all of that, how do I apply that in the office? You know, when a new patient comes

[00:03:45] [SPEAKER_02]: in or a current existing patient, and I have the absolute best job in the world,

[00:03:51] [SPEAKER_02]: best job in the world for me, for sure, because I get to tell them like your body's smart.

[00:03:56] [SPEAKER_02]: I can get to tell them that. There's a concept I love in chiropractic. It's called

[00:04:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Adio above down inside out. Buckle up for this because guess where wisdom comes from, right?

[00:04:06] [SPEAKER_02]: So we talk about like in the brain starts above, goes down, down the spinal cord from the inside

[00:04:12] [SPEAKER_02]: to the outside. So your health is a reflection of your internal environment. Everything internal

[00:04:16] [SPEAKER_02]: shows up external. It is just a concept. Well, guess what? Kind of interesting how God works

[00:04:21] [SPEAKER_02]: above down inside out. And there's the concept of you flip it backwards called Oibu outside in

[00:04:28] [SPEAKER_01]: below up. Oibu doesn't work. My forehead is wrinkled with that one. Okay, yeah, it doesn't work.

[00:04:38] [SPEAKER_02]: I know. I know. I sit and I thought about these things a lot. So I'm just grateful somebody asked

[00:04:43] [SPEAKER_02]: me to talk about them because I'm tired of hearing myself talk about them. So that's great. So

[00:04:49] [SPEAKER_00]: faith is at the very fiber of even where you got started, why you got into chiropractic.

[00:04:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Do you find that you have faith conversations with whether it's employees, co-workers or clients?

[00:05:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. So specifically on the patient side of things, no matter where they're at,

[00:05:11] [SPEAKER_02]: like they start to grasp the concept of oh yeah, the body is smart.

[00:05:15] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, why do you think it is smart? You know, you were created. I said you're

[00:05:18] [SPEAKER_02]: created for health, not sickness. So we like language is important. I tell them like you're

[00:05:23] [SPEAKER_02]: created. He didn't evolve smart like you were created smart and those things. And then

[00:05:29] [SPEAKER_02]: inevitably being in practice for as long as I have, you're going to have really,

[00:05:33] [SPEAKER_02]: really, really difficult scenarios for the patients to come up where you just

[00:05:37] [SPEAKER_02]: it's not your normal. I've had five patients commit suicide over the past,

[00:05:41] [SPEAKER_02]: you know, 17 years. I've attended kids funerals and everything in between. And so

[00:05:50] [SPEAKER_02]: those faith conversations become really, really important. And I found out this is that

[00:05:55] [SPEAKER_02]: when I ask a patient if I can pray for them, I've never had anybody say no.

[00:05:59] [SPEAKER_02]: And I've stopped delaying when that prayer happens. So that prayer happens like if they

[00:06:08] [SPEAKER_02]: say yes, it happens right there on the table. Right? Yeah. Like there isn't a hey, can I pray for you?

[00:06:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Sure. And then there's nothing. No, it happens now. Yes. Yeah. So that happens a lot. But like

[00:06:20] [SPEAKER_02]: through our educational process, that faith process, like faith is the core that that's

[00:06:24] [SPEAKER_02]: through every touch point in the office. So even with my team when we have team meetings.

[00:06:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Now this this can be more regular, but we've got these cards, these mind mastery cards,

[00:06:33] [SPEAKER_02]: and there's verses on them. So there's a verse and then on the back, it's like written in like a

[00:06:38] [SPEAKER_02]: positive affirmation on it. And we'll all hand them out. Like I'll have the patient or the

[00:06:43] [SPEAKER_02]: team members, I'll have them draw one week trying to keep one before every shift

[00:06:48] [SPEAKER_02]: and lock and load and get ready to go in that. And just making sure like I've never

[00:06:54] [SPEAKER_02]: really said, I sat down with my team and be like, Hey, where are you at?

[00:06:58] [SPEAKER_02]: But the beautiful part about it, and this is one thing for people who maybe are afraid

[00:07:03] [SPEAKER_02]: to share or you know, because you're going to be afraid to share share anyway. Like that's my advice.

[00:07:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Like there's no magic recipe good for you. You're a human being. You have fear. We all

[00:07:13] [SPEAKER_02]: fall short of the glory of God. So get over yourself. Having having those conversations

[00:07:20] [SPEAKER_02]: with the team, like I've never had anybody pull me aside and been like, Hey, I really don't

[00:07:24] [SPEAKER_02]: like you talking about Jesus in the office. Well, you know, that's pretty awesome. Because

[00:07:31] [SPEAKER_02]: that's what we fear. We think, Oh, like someone's going to be offended. Now they may not,

[00:07:35] [SPEAKER_02]: you know, go to the same church or do those things. That's great. But if we're here,

[00:07:40] [SPEAKER_02]: listen, you can't explain what we've seen the office of people getting better at the

[00:07:43] [SPEAKER_02]: miracles we've seen. Yeah, right. Even where we're at without like you think that's me,

[00:07:47] [SPEAKER_02]: you're full of it. Like there's no chance. Yeah, right. Right. So yeah, it's definitely

[00:07:52] [SPEAKER_02]: a chord each and every day through through what we get to do. Those those cards sound

[00:07:58] [SPEAKER_00]: like pretty cool resources. Do you have one that just comes to mind of either favorites or just

[00:08:03] [SPEAKER_02]: a recent one that was shared? So I will tell you, they are mind mastery cards and they

[00:08:09] [SPEAKER_02]: they're made by a good friend of mine, Dr. Matt Hubbard who's also chiropractor and

[00:08:13] [SPEAKER_02]: also a pastor out in San Diego, California. So he became a pastor later in his career.

[00:08:22] [SPEAKER_02]: So anyway, yeah, mind mastery cards. But there's there's a there's kind of like a daily blue pack.

[00:08:28] [SPEAKER_02]: There's a financial pack that has the same verse on it. I got a hydronomy, I believe.

[00:08:32] [SPEAKER_02]: And there's a red pack. I don't know what the red pack does because I just have the blue ones. So

[00:08:36] [SPEAKER_02]: the blue ones are the best and the green ones. But for example, one would be it could be

[00:08:44] [SPEAKER_02]: like a walk by faith, right? Not by sight. So it'll have that verse on the front and

[00:08:48] [SPEAKER_02]: on the back, it'll it'll say like the affirmation is like today I choose to walk by faith and not by

[00:08:54] [SPEAKER_02]: sight. Each and every step I take is going to be met with faith and not fear. Like that's kind of

[00:09:00] [SPEAKER_02]: like the affirmations are short and sweet. But yeah, so that'd be kind of an example of one.

[00:09:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Very cool. I like that. It sets the culture for your for your team too. You know where

[00:09:11] [SPEAKER_01]: you do you walk by faith and not by sight. So yeah, that's really sweet. I'm curious

[00:09:16] [SPEAKER_01]: for the people that you have had the opportunity to pray for as they're like on your table. Do

[00:09:21] [SPEAKER_01]: you any stories come to mind where it ended up being pretty significant either the conversation

[00:09:27] [SPEAKER_01]: or like a healing moment? Do you have one of those stories you could share with us?

[00:09:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I have. Okay. So ironically, she was she was just in this morning, but there's

[00:09:38] [SPEAKER_02]: a couple that I've taken care of. So it says I've been in Jordan, like they're one of the

[00:09:46] [SPEAKER_02]: age they can have health issues and as that goes, well, there came to pass where

[00:09:52] [SPEAKER_02]: the husband of this couple who was one of the hardest working men I've ever met in my life

[00:09:56] [SPEAKER_02]: was terminally ill. He had some issues and they would come in together. They'd always come

[00:10:02] [SPEAKER_02]: in together for their adjustments. And you know, and then I asked was like, hey, can I just

[00:10:07] [SPEAKER_02]: pray? And I kind of need their their their faith journey is absolutely so I remember praying for

[00:10:11] [SPEAKER_02]: him. And it wasn't long after he passed away in his funeral and everything. And then there's

[00:10:18] [SPEAKER_02]: this huge gap where I didn't see the spouse. Like, did they just again, you know, and I almost

[00:10:24] [SPEAKER_02]: almost to the point where I was like, oh man, like I wonder, you know, I can't imagine it's about

[00:10:29] [SPEAKER_02]: me. Right? So many people think, well, what did I do? Like people think of you far less

[00:10:33] [SPEAKER_02]: than they think of themselves. Like, so I just learned that with age, like calm down,

[00:10:39] [SPEAKER_02]: probably has nothing to do with you, right? Was your heart in the right place? Yeah, absolutely.

[00:10:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, then get you're fine. This is how I talk to myself, by the way. So but I remember having

[00:10:49] [SPEAKER_02]: that I was like, man, she just hasn't been in like, like it bothered me. But it turns out

[00:10:54] [SPEAKER_02]: like when she inevitably came back, like this was a place that she remembered him so much.

[00:11:00] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, and it was hard for her to be back in. But the only way she's back in

[00:11:06] [SPEAKER_02]: in doing is because she knows God has her here for a reason, right? Because like,

[00:11:10] [SPEAKER_02]: and it could have been part of the prayer could have just been how we live, right? There's never

[00:11:14] [SPEAKER_02]: one moment. There's like moments built up and then those create memories and

[00:11:17] [SPEAKER_02]: and that's how we create momentum as well, you know, as you go through life. And so

[00:11:22] [SPEAKER_02]: that happened just recently, I got adjusted this morning. She's been great. But I'll tell

[00:11:26] [SPEAKER_02]: you what, I've had more of those moments with husband and wives over the years.

[00:11:31] [SPEAKER_02]: So where like they have a hard time, like almost the first couple times they come

[00:11:35] [SPEAKER_02]: back, it's just always tears because it reminds them of their spouse, you know,

[00:11:38] [SPEAKER_02]: because that was a thing they always did. There's a gal named Emma and when her husband passed away,

[00:11:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Joe, he was this big old bow hunk of a guy like big check that she'd always call him a big bow

[00:11:50] [SPEAKER_02]: hunk. But when he died, he died like on a Monday, her adjustment was on Wednesday and she came in

[00:11:56] [SPEAKER_02]: like she didn't miss her adjustment. And we taught you, you know what to do? Here's

[00:12:00] [SPEAKER_02]: what I've learned when somebody passes away. Always for someone and I remember talking to Emma,

[00:12:06] [SPEAKER_02]: I go, Emma, what was your favorite thing about Joe? Your husband, right? Because when we say

[00:12:11] [SPEAKER_02]: we're sorry or our condolences, like sometimes you just don't have the words, right? But by

[00:12:17] [SPEAKER_02]: sharing your favorite thing about them, there's little ways where all of a sudden now, like

[00:12:21] [SPEAKER_02]: those traits and when they tell me, I'm telling you what, I'm listening closer than I've

[00:12:25] [SPEAKER_02]: listened to any class I've ever taken because I want to be better by having known what their

[00:12:31] [SPEAKER_02]: favorite part about this person was. You know what I mean? Like Abby, don't get me started.

[00:12:36] [SPEAKER_02]: I could talk about Big Randy all day long. You know what I mean? But that's how you honor them,

[00:12:41] [SPEAKER_02]: even though it brings up emotions. I mean, I've cried enough on these podcasts like I'm not

[00:12:45] [SPEAKER_01]: going to cry anymore. I think that's a good point though, because if Emma had said like,

[00:12:50] [SPEAKER_01]: oh man, her, his bare hugs, then it's like next time she comes in, I know I'm going to hug her

[00:12:55] [SPEAKER_01]: and maybe just let her breathe in a little bit and yeah, it gives you the opportunity to even

[00:13:02] [SPEAKER_01]: love them a little better. That's a great piece of advice. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Care has to go

[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_02]: far beyond then what happens on the table for sure. Yeah, definitely. There's someone more

[00:13:12] [SPEAKER_00]: recently you've been able to sew into, you know, someone who was a patient and

[00:13:18] [SPEAKER_00]: now there's kind of this ongoing connection that you've got with him and sounds like maybe

[00:13:23] [SPEAKER_00]: another couple guys. Can you tell us about that and just kind of how it started, how it's going?

[00:13:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. So that's been really interesting. So recently, he's a patient of mine,

[00:13:34] [SPEAKER_02]: has been a good friend. I've known him for quite a while and he just went through

[00:13:39] [SPEAKER_02]: a massive, massive, his life got turned upside down, right? Lost his career

[00:13:44] [SPEAKER_02]: and it wasn't a pretty loss. It was like a business partner, we've all heard these things,

[00:13:49] [SPEAKER_02]: like a business partner, he stood up for a lot of people, he fell on the sword and all of a sudden

[00:13:54] [SPEAKER_02]: now he was the scapegoat in this company. Lawyers involved, like all these things

[00:14:00] [SPEAKER_02]: and it's been hard because I remember when he called the meeting, it was me and another guy,

[00:14:04] [SPEAKER_02]: he called us over to his house and I would tell you that what transpired that morning was

[00:14:11] [SPEAKER_02]: nothing short of God intervening in this guy's life. Like if he had to lose his career for this

[00:14:16] [SPEAKER_02]: moment to happen because here's what happened, like we go in there and he pulls out a contract

[00:14:19] [SPEAKER_02]: and he has me and this other gentleman like, hey, can you read? It was basically,

[00:14:23] [SPEAKER_02]: can you read through the contract? What do you see? I need some help. I need another set of eyes

[00:14:27] [SPEAKER_02]: and ears on this thing. You guys are the guys I trust to help me navigate this. Like what

[00:14:32] [SPEAKER_02]: do I do? And it was miserable. Like he was defeated. This isn't a defeated person.

[00:14:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Like this is someone who's, who like literally is probably one of the most determined people

[00:14:41] [SPEAKER_02]: I've ever met in my life. And in a period about 35, 40 minutes, we like all of a sudden it was like,

[00:14:50] [SPEAKER_02]: hey, what if? What if this like, you know, it was the whole thing. I was like, hey,

[00:14:56] [SPEAKER_02]: do you think God's sovereign? And he's like, what do you mean? I'm like,

[00:15:07] [SPEAKER_02]: if it's going to happen, it's got to be part of God's will. And if it's not,

[00:15:11] [SPEAKER_02]: so here's the flip question. Like, do you think anything can happen outside of God's will?

[00:15:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Probably not because like God's God, right? I think we're still on step one. So

[00:15:23] [SPEAKER_02]: not that he intentionally hurts, but like God can use all things together, right? For the good

[00:15:27] [SPEAKER_02]: of those that love him. And so knowing that, like, I'll joke with my kids when someone's

[00:15:31] [SPEAKER_02]: like, well, God's not surprised by it. Like, why should I be like, like move on? Let's keep going.

[00:15:37] [SPEAKER_02]: And so we're able to say like, what if this is the greatest opportunity for you now to be free

[00:15:42] [SPEAKER_02]: of something that's going to fall and God has protected you in this because, and then all of a

[00:15:47] [SPEAKER_02]: sudden it was like, Oh, what about this? What about these things, things in this company?

[00:15:50] [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, dude, that's gonna be a train wreck. Like the fear, the doubt, the worry that's

[00:15:56] [SPEAKER_02]: been put on the other employees that I saw firsthand. I was like, and he's at the helm now,

[00:16:02] [SPEAKER_02]: get away from that thing. Like you don't want to be anywhere near with that because guess what?

[00:16:06] [SPEAKER_02]: It's a tinderbox. A tinderbox is basically one spark and there's going to be an explosion.

[00:16:12] [SPEAKER_02]: So we had this and then the mother friend, we prayed and this guy was broke. Like

[00:16:19] [SPEAKER_02]: broke to the point where he's bawling as if like he's shedding off what had happened.

[00:16:25] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, and that was just like a few months back. It wasn't, it was not that long ago.

[00:16:29] [SPEAKER_02]: And so since that time, what's been a really, really cool thing is there's a text group, right?

[00:16:34] [SPEAKER_02]: So we all, I for the most part, I can't stand being in group texts. Like I will be the person

[00:16:38] [SPEAKER_02]: that leaves because I'm like, I don't need more messages. But every single morning at least

[00:16:46] [SPEAKER_02]: one out of the three of us will drop a Bible verse will drop like a voice text prayer or a song

[00:16:52] [SPEAKER_02]: or something. And it's become like such a nice thing for me to be a part of, to where you're like,

[00:16:58] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm receiving out of that as well. So yeah, that was recently kind of what's been going on there.

[00:17:04] [SPEAKER_02]: And then seeing the transformation, I got to talk to him yesterday on the phone.

[00:17:08] [SPEAKER_02]: It was a good conversation to kind of check in. And I think phone calls these days are kind

[00:17:13] [SPEAKER_02]: of a thing in the past. And I think a lot of us would do better by like not texting and just

[00:17:17] [SPEAKER_00]: calling. Yeah, for sure. So wow, I love that. Very cool. Right. And it's, it's something that if we don't

[00:17:28] [SPEAKER_00]: get in community and if we're not intentional to build those relationships,

[00:17:32] [SPEAKER_00]: you know, it's like there's a lot of opportunity for us to support other people

[00:17:36] [SPEAKER_00]: and them to support us that we're missing. And you know, it sounds like

[00:17:43] [SPEAKER_00]: it was really on purpose that God had the three of you connected long before that.

[00:17:51] [SPEAKER_00]: And you know what? Relationships are, they're work sometimes. They take energy and it's worth it.

[00:17:59] [SPEAKER_02]: It's worth it. Yeah, one thing too like with that, I didn't know going into that meaning how that was

[00:18:04] [SPEAKER_02]: going to go. Like we totally like, we weren't given a whole lot of information. So it wasn't

[00:18:08] [SPEAKER_02]: like, oh, I got my notes. I got my Bible on holiday, ready to rock, you know. But anytime you feel

[00:18:14] [SPEAKER_02]: yourself and this is one thing that I've learned just through living and I need to remind myself as

[00:18:19] [SPEAKER_02]: well, is that anytime you feel like yourself being divided or distracted, that's not the work of God.

[00:18:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Right? That's those are tools in the enemy. So if you're feeling division and distraction,

[00:18:32] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm telling you what does it time to like gut check yourself because like that's,

[00:18:36] [SPEAKER_02]: that's not an intention. When you say the word community, I might get division and distraction.

[00:18:41] [SPEAKER_02]: And if the devil can't beat you, he'll keep you distracted. So. Wow, right.

[00:18:47] [SPEAKER_00]: All right. I think you've got one more story around kind of what you do in your day to day

[00:18:54] [SPEAKER_00]: about an intern and how you're able to kind of help them, I believe help them understand how faith

[00:19:02] [SPEAKER_00]: ties in and how you can have faith as part of your practice. Can you share that?

[00:19:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. Yeah. So this is over the years, I had a lot of student shadows, had a lot of interns

[00:19:13] [SPEAKER_02]: been grateful for like, because there's a chiropractor school in Minnesota. So interns will come,

[00:19:18] [SPEAKER_02]: they'll kind of set up some hours and stuff in the office. But I distinctly remember an intern

[00:19:23] [SPEAKER_02]: at one time. And he was talking about the music, you know, because like I said, I tend to

[00:19:26] [SPEAKER_02]: listen to Christian music for sure the first half of the day, sometimes all day. And the music

[00:19:32] [SPEAKER_02]: comes from my phone. Like I get to pick the music in my office. I'm setting the tone, I'm setting

[00:19:35] [SPEAKER_02]: the vibe. And I've never had anybody complain about it. There's probably been plenty of people

[00:19:39] [SPEAKER_02]: that don't like it, but it's okay. And as a business, I think how many businesses out there

[00:19:44] [SPEAKER_02]: are just like folding for the dollar. Like core values go out the window when it comes to like

[00:19:53] [SPEAKER_02]: paychecks. Right? So anyway, it drives me nuts. And so I'm like, whatever, if I've lost business

[00:20:01] [SPEAKER_02]: over it, like praise God, like that's okay. So this intern one time he was like, how do you

[00:20:07] [SPEAKER_02]: like share your faith or like play this music? Like to him, it was a question and literally

[00:20:14] [SPEAKER_02]: it did catch me off guard because I never thought anything about it. Like I've been

[00:20:17] [SPEAKER_02]: in stores that play Christian music. I'm like, I kind of like it. Like, your vibe attracts your

[00:20:22] [SPEAKER_02]: tribe type, type style, you know? And in his mind. So a few more questions later, I was like,

[00:20:28] [SPEAKER_02]: well, what do you mean? He's like, well, you're a business. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I'm a business.

[00:20:37] [SPEAKER_02]: But I'm a person, you know what I mean? Like so, I think that's why it's so cool. We have so

[00:20:42] [SPEAKER_02]: many different styles and flavors of businesses. I tell people, Kaiapar just like restaurants. I

[00:20:46] [SPEAKER_02]: mean, there's so many different styles and flavors. And there's one on every corner,

[00:20:49] [SPEAKER_02]: like right next to Starbucks, like we're everywhere. So there's going to be some like,

[00:20:53] [SPEAKER_02]: like I said, that you vibe with and those things. But like in that moment, I was like,

[00:20:57] [SPEAKER_02]: well, it was really no different. Like so his question was how do you share your face? And I

[00:21:02] [SPEAKER_02]: said, well, well, faith isn't something I put on like a t-shirt. Like, like face is something

[00:21:07] [SPEAKER_02]: that's as you grow and develop, like people should be able to witness. And that's really

[00:21:13] [SPEAKER_02]: seeing now even like playing some of the music we do, it's just it's a low hanging fruit. It's

[00:21:17] [SPEAKER_02]: like, oh, because I guess what guess who non Christians aren't playing Christian music.

[00:21:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, you know, I mean, it's a pretty easy like, oh, oh, I got it. Okay, cool. You know,

[00:21:30] [SPEAKER_02]: so with that intern that time, it was like simply put it was like, and I'm hoping I like,

[00:21:35] [SPEAKER_02]: I can look back actually think I remember the intern. I should kick him a message just

[00:21:40] [SPEAKER_02]: on Facebook. That would be the way I'd get a hold of him but like seeing how sharing his

[00:21:45] [SPEAKER_02]: faith has blended into his day. Because like I said, it's not something it's something that

[00:21:52] [SPEAKER_02]: should be like felt and seen before it's heard a lot of times. Yeah, we're talking about

[00:21:59] [SPEAKER_01]: before we started recording that it's like, man, it's just part of our DNA. It's like who I am

[00:22:05] [SPEAKER_01]: and playing Christian music doesn't even cross my mind as being different or weird because

[00:22:11] [SPEAKER_01]: it's like, yeah, this is just who I am. Like you were saying in the last episode sharing your

[00:22:16] [SPEAKER_01]: faith with your father-in-law, it's like, man, that's what we're all called to do and it's just

[00:22:21] [SPEAKER_02]: who I am. Yeah, no, for sure. It's just like, oh, okay. Well, I feel like that in and of itself

[00:22:28] [SPEAKER_00]: could be kind of the encouragement for our listeners, you know, as they go into their week.

[00:22:33] [SPEAKER_00]: What if God's just asking you to be you and you know, just

[00:22:37] [SPEAKER_00]: wear, I mean, wear your faith on your t-shirt but no, like just bring that. Just bring it with you.

[00:22:44] [SPEAKER_00]: It is part of you. It doesn't have to be this extra thing that you gear up for.

[00:22:51] [SPEAKER_00]: But just let it be who you are in your interactions.

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